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Fladrif 's behavior

There are too many people here that think contributions excuse conduct, and that clever language, so desired in articles, is to be applauded on talk pages even if insulting regardless of the effect on the recipient. That is wrong.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:13, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

  • WP:NPA says personal attacks include:
    • Using someone's affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views
    • Accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence. Serious accusations require serious evidence
    • Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done.

2009 and 2010

2011

As soon as Fladrif's one year NPA restriction was over in July 2011 he went back to his old ways again:

  • Fladrif says to Risker: "Wrong. Reread it. Carefully this time"…….. [1]
  • If those terms are new to you, I suggest you ask NYBrad to explain them to you [2]
  • His [TG’s] past repeated misconduct as a meatpuppet and sockpuppet, as well as the red flag of users appearing out of the woodwork to take up his banner, ape his role and parrot his rhetoric while subject to this ban or his earlier topic-ban strongly suggest that he has not honored the ban, but used sockuppets or meatpuppets as proxies to evade it. That is not speculation. It is a fact. [3]
  • Selective blindness again? Or don't you even bother to read sources before posting? [4]
  • This is a pattern with your editing both as to playing fast and lose with sources and then casting false aspersion on those who call you on it that was apparently not cured by the findings and principles at ArbCom. [Note: Fladrif was the only editor sanctioned at the TM ArbCom to which he/she refers [5]
  • Before making this outrageous accusation, did you bother to read the source, which says precisely that? [6]

2012

  • This comment is typical of Olive's eggshell skull mentality. [7]
  • Did you bother to read [diff]? I can understand TimidGuy' KBob and Olive repeating over and over ad nauseum "but I'm a neutral editor" since they're committed to defend indefensible editing [8]
  • Don't condescend to me. Don't threaten me. I know what a vanity press is [9]
  • No, you are not moving this discussion to RSN. [10]
  • Fladrif's Edit Summary: Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you [11]
  • Fladrif says: Accusing others of misinformation and mischaracterization is a personal attack [12]
  • Enlighten the board. Please. What is it precisely that you "realized was really going on here"? Don’t be shy. [13]
  • I believe that the "Shaloms" are Satinmaster's way of saying "If you disagree with me, you must be a Jew." [14]
  • @SilkTork - Did you actually read the statement of the closing clerk at COIN? [15]
  • Fladrif says to TimidGuy: Wikipedia does not need another ream of paragraphs out of you, it needs you editing neutrally or not at all. No more long diatribes, no more changing the subject, no more disingenuity and smokescreens, capisce?' [16]
  • Fladrif to JClemens—“Refactor your weak and misguided attempt at snide condescension” [17]
  • Fladirf to JClemens: “Don't f*ck with eagles unless you know how to fly. [18]
  • Fladrif to JClemens: Bullshit. …..If you're not going to be part of the solution, you're definitely part of the problem. [19]
  • Fladrif to JClemens: “if you don't refactor promptly, I will most definitely ask that sanctions be imposed on you for this outrageous bullshit, shiny ArbCom badge on your lapel or no.” [20]
  • Fladrif to JClemens: “your pointy, incorrigible and unrepentedly disruptive conduct, of which you are evidently quite proud” [21]
  • “Are you really so clueless as to not see accusing an editor of being motivated by and conducting a program of vicious religious persecution against other editors - apparently, in light of this latest post, in concert with other unnamed editors who you are similarly libeling by implication - as a personal attack in violation of policy? [22]
  • Fladrif says about JClemens “He has a shocking lack of judgment and a temperament unsuited to the posts he holds. He goes out of his way to insult, belittle and ridicule editors with whom he disagrees both in edits and edit summaries, and is incapable of civil discussion with those whose views he opposes….He is erratic, immature and foolish in his roles as administrator and arbitrator. [23]
  • Fladrif to Dreadstar: “Does this mean he's quit once again in yet another a hissy-fit?” [24]
  • ‘TimidGuy's statement about the scope and applicability of Malnak v Yogi is, as usual, completely wrong” [25]

Fladrif's warnings from multiple editors and administrators in 2011 and 2012

  • I am sure that you will agree with me that the point that you wish to get across can be made without resorting to such terms. User:AlexandrDmitri|Alexandr Dmitri]] [26]
  • Please stop the derogatory comments and assumptions of bad faith. [27]
  • Thank you for providing a further illustration of your [Arbcom Diff: Fladrif_strongly_admonished_and_restricted] of your incivility, personal attacks, and assumptions of bad faith for which you were previously sanctioned. [28]
  • my advice would be to be a little less snarky in your comment and your edit summary. The use of "shovel" and the mildly sarcastic "don't be shy" were unnecessary to make your point and ask your question.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC) [29]
  • Fladriff, do you speak to other editors this way on the talk pages of the TM articles or in other WP forums in which TM editing is discussed? [30]
  • Dreadstar: I'd also like Fladrif to retract his personal attack on me above, I have never "disappeared" any postings of "pals to protect their editing." Fladrif accused me of that at ArbCom and no merit was found for that accusation. Dreadstar [31]
  • Jclemens to Fladrif: "please try and be more civil." [32]
  • Elen of the Roads to Fladrif: I will say this only once. If you carry out one more removal of a source while leaving that edit summary, while the discussion is still going on at ANI, you will be blocked. [33]