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Not really Inappropriate warning removal as he had already been warned except he kept on reverting so it was inappropriate
I hope you'd like to see the reply (I will maybe!) given to your comment and what happened right after that! — Abhishek Talk 16:46, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- You already warning him, didn't make him stop. — Abhishek Talk 16:48, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- So what? He had already been warned over 3RR, there was no need for you to run along and template him. And I see no further reverts in article space. Darkness Shines (talk) 16:51, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh really? So you mean to say, just because he was warned, it is ok for him to continue reverting and for someone not to warn him again for that? Great! Why don't you add a policy on this? As such you have acted wonderful in renaming this section! — Abhishek Talk 17:02, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- I often change section headers for my amusement. And if one warning did not work, what made you think two would? And he reverted after your templating, not before. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:05, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- He reverted after your templating:
- His revert: 21:59, 17 May 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+578) . . Narendra Modi (→2002 Gujarat violence: A. "Many" is imprecise word. B. Exclusion of sourced statistics makes it even less informative than what it was before. Numbers put perspective into things. C. "Godhra Train burning", in fact, is misleading people were burned.)
- My warning: 22:06, 17 May 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+1,824) . . User talk:Mrt3366 (Warning: Edit warring on Narendra Modi. (TW))
- I didn't know that 22:06 comes before 21:59.
- Most editors have stopped after receiving warnings from mutliple editors. So you make it look like, you are the only one having the right to warn someone and the only one giving appropriate warnings. Now that's condescending! — Abhishek Talk 17:19, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- If you would like me to be condescending I will be ore than happy to do so. BTW your warning 16:36, 17 May 2013 MrT last revert 16:29, 17 May 2013 Well fuck me, I was right, what a fucking shocker. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:34, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)Please don't be croth itth vewwy vewwy hard thumtimes Basket Feudalist 17:38, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- Wow, an Igor stalking my talk page, cool. Darkness Shines (talk) 09:09, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)Please don't be croth itth vewwy vewwy hard thumtimes Basket Feudalist 17:38, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- If you would like me to be condescending I will be ore than happy to do so. BTW your warning 16:36, 17 May 2013 MrT last revert 16:29, 17 May 2013 Well fuck me, I was right, what a fucking shocker. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:34, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- I often change section headers for my amusement. And if one warning did not work, what made you think two would? And he reverted after your templating, not before. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:05, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh really? So you mean to say, just because he was warned, it is ok for him to continue reverting and for someone not to warn him again for that? Great! Why don't you add a policy on this? As such you have acted wonderful in renaming this section! — Abhishek Talk 17:02, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- So what? He had already been warned over 3RR, there was no need for you to run along and template him. And I see no further reverts in article space. Darkness Shines (talk) 16:51, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi there!
I moved the merger proposal to Talk:Sarabjit Singh, which earlier was at Talk:Sanaullah Haq. Do you take issues with it? If yes then tell me I will self-revert. Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 15:09, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- Nope, that is fine. Twinkle did it that way for some reason. Darkness Shines (talk) 15:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Indophobia
To a person not aware of the circumstances of the Jallianwala Bagh Massacre, it seems that it had to do with Indians' skin colour or European women. I clarified it for the casual reader so that they might not have to actually read that article to get the gist of the comment here. Also, the term Amritsar Massacre is disingenuous and I've used the more popular name of the incident, which is, rightly, also the title of the main article. Thanks for your check. 117.197.49.99 (talk) 18:08, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- I will read up on it ASAP, but the wiki article says it was a crowd control exercise which turned into a slaughter. If so it actually has no place in the Indophobia article. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:16, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- Please read about it first. It was perpetrated by a known racist, Indophobic bigot (The Butcher of Amritsar), under orders from an Establishment (Michael O'Dwyer) with full knowledge and comprehension of his actions (as evidenced by his firing orders (shoot low) to some of his troops who fired into the air). Deliberately firing more than one thousand rounds into a crowd in an enclosed space without any provocation, or even warning is not crowd control at all. It was what the title says. A Massacre. It was so bad even the British Parliament had a hard time defending it, and Dyer was unceremoniously asked to resign. Of course, he was fêted by other bigots like Rudyard Kipling and several Lords, but that's beside the point. The point is that this was Indophobia in action on a horrific scale. 117.197.49.99 (talk) 18:28, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- (ec)So I got curious and looked, my initial guess was correct and that incident had nothing to do with Indophobia, so I removed it as OR. If you have a source which says this was an indophobic action feel free to restore it, I will take a look myself. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:31, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- On the contrary, the Butcher's motivations were certainly Indophobic, and he might even have truly believed he was 'protecting' white women. The Wikipedia article on Reginald Dyer says--
- (ec)So I got curious and looked, my initial guess was correct and that incident had nothing to do with Indophobia, so I removed it as OR. If you have a source which says this was an indophobic action feel free to restore it, I will take a look myself. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:31, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- Please read about it first. It was perpetrated by a known racist, Indophobic bigot (The Butcher of Amritsar), under orders from an Establishment (Michael O'Dwyer) with full knowledge and comprehension of his actions (as evidenced by his firing orders (shoot low) to some of his troops who fired into the air). Deliberately firing more than one thousand rounds into a crowd in an enclosed space without any provocation, or even warning is not crowd control at all. It was what the title says. A Massacre. It was so bad even the British Parliament had a hard time defending it, and Dyer was unceremoniously asked to resign. Of course, he was fêted by other bigots like Rudyard Kipling and several Lords, but that's beside the point. The point is that this was Indophobia in action on a horrific scale. 117.197.49.99 (talk) 18:28, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
"A Thirteen Women Committee was constituted to present "the Saviour of the Punjab with the sword of honour and a purse." This single incident angered the Nobel Laureate Rabindranath Tagore so much that he renounced his knighthood in protest. The Morning Post had supported Dyer’s action on grounds stating that the massacre was necessary to "Protect the honour of European Women." This "honour of European women" moral panic was tackled by E. M. Forster in his A Passage to India, which the line in the article you deleted referred to. The massacre by a delusional Indophobe (a General, no less) motivated authors to dispel these myths. 117.197.49.99 (talk) 18:41, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- To say that the killings where Indophobia without a source violates WP:NOR, I am looking for a source, I suggest you do the same. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:49, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- Nobody's saying here that the killings were Indophobic (although they may well have been). The original line says that it brought authors like Forster to write on the subject of racist stereotypes of Indians and dispel them. The Massacre's aftermath ('protecting the honour of European Women' award to the Butcher, etc) brought forth these anti-Indophobic novels. This is not the article about the Massacre itself. 117.197.49.99 (talk) 19:00, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, but from what I am looking at the killings had nothing to do with race and more to do with "respect my authoritah". Are the books written by Forster specifically written to dispel stereotypes? Do we have a source which says any of this? Darkness Shines (talk) 19:10, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- The reference for the books was right there in the line, i.e., Ania Loomba's book Colonialism-postcolonialism. I quote from the Wikipedia article on Stereotypes of South Asians, "The stereotype of Indian males as dark-skinned rapists lusting after white English females was challenged by several novels such as E. M. Forster's A Passage to India (1924) and Paul Scott's The Jewel in the Crown (1966), both of which involve an Indian male being wrongly accused of raping an English female." Nothing further needs to be said. 117.197.49.99 (talk) 19:22, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- I would recommend you actually read Colonialism-postcolonialism. It does not say what you seem to think it does, it certainly does not mention that Passage to India was written to refute racial stereotypes. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:32, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- Touché! Another reference is Brenda Silver, Periphrasis, Power and Rape in A Passage To India. I'm disinclined to continue this fruitless debate. Good bye. 117.197.49.99 (talk) 19:40, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. Here's the Loomba reference you were looking for: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.49.99 (talk) 19:54, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- I refer you to my previous response at 19:32, 18 May 2013, which I feel quite certain you had already seen given this response. Darkness Shines (talk) 20:03, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- I would recommend you actually read Colonialism-postcolonialism. It does not say what you seem to think it does, it certainly does not mention that Passage to India was written to refute racial stereotypes. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:32, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- The reference for the books was right there in the line, i.e., Ania Loomba's book Colonialism-postcolonialism. I quote from the Wikipedia article on Stereotypes of South Asians, "The stereotype of Indian males as dark-skinned rapists lusting after white English females was challenged by several novels such as E. M. Forster's A Passage to India (1924) and Paul Scott's The Jewel in the Crown (1966), both of which involve an Indian male being wrongly accused of raping an English female." Nothing further needs to be said. 117.197.49.99 (talk) 19:22, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, but from what I am looking at the killings had nothing to do with race and more to do with "respect my authoritah". Are the books written by Forster specifically written to dispel stereotypes? Do we have a source which says any of this? Darkness Shines (talk) 19:10, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- Nobody's saying here that the killings were Indophobic (although they may well have been). The original line says that it brought authors like Forster to write on the subject of racist stereotypes of Indians and dispel them. The Massacre's aftermath ('protecting the honour of European Women' award to the Butcher, etc) brought forth these anti-Indophobic novels. This is not the article about the Massacre itself. 117.197.49.99 (talk) 19:00, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
British Pakistanis
I think you have made a mistake, I quite clearly added a valid source on my second revert. Arain321 (talk) 23:02, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- No, you cited a document on Google Docs, which fails WP:SPS. I posted to the article talk page, please head on over there. Darkness Shines (talk) 22:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Issues
I've revdel'ed a couple of edits and semi-protected your talk page for 6 hours. If you want that reversed or extended, just ask. Dennis Brown - 2¢ - © - @ - Join WER 14:31, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks Dennis. Darkness Shines (talk) 14:34, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Help me
Any of my TPS know why twinkle has vanished as well as the editing toolbar? I can't edit without the toolbar :o( Darkness Shines (talk) 18:39, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- Vector skin is broken, see Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Something.27s_wrong_again --Tito Dutta (contact) 18:46, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- And fixed too! --Tito Dutta (contact) 18:49, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- Cheers, I was ever so worried there, thought I had broken something Darkness Shines (talk) 18:53, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- And fixed too! --Tito Dutta (contact) 18:49, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Talk:Al-Qaeda
please go to Talk:Al-Qaeda Peterzor (talk) 19:56, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, see ya there. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:58, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
You are misunderstanding person
I'll have to talk to somebody in Wikipedia more important than you.I'm italian and you are defending a dangerous position.151.40.11.180 (talk) 21:13, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hmm, nobody is more important than me. But as you are Italian, would you talk to a fellow Italian? Darkness Shines (talk) 21:17, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Italian can't be fellow.Remeber today western civilized world is born here.An italian has the same net wealth of an USA citizen and i could go on...Leon Panetta is italian (tell it to CIA).Therexbanner and others (like 103...) are propaganda men of FSB.They acted dirty even in lists of Gdps and other articles to boost Russian Federation image.Or you are with russians?151.40.11.180 (talk) 21:22, 21 May 2013 (UTC)