User talk:Yintan

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References

Does everything, every word, every sentence, need a bloody reference, does it?! Most of the references point to ridiculous sources anyway. Ooh, some fat dude said something on TV, it MUST be eligible for inclusion on wikipedia!

Bah! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.105.12 (talk) 22:34, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Short answer? Yes. Long answer? WP:RS. Cheers,  Yintan  22:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Your answer, "yes", is clearly incorrect. There is a HUGE amount of unrefenced material and interpretation on wikipedia. That crap link says "based on", not "ENTIRELY, EXCLUSIVELY TOTALLY" referenced material. Do you even know what I typed, or did you just click 'n' revert?

I mean, I just clicked "random article". Here's the first paragraph:

"Digital mixes (also known as mix networks) is a system that creates hard-to-trace communications by using a chain of proxy servers. Each message is encrypted to each proxy using public key cryptography; the resulting encryption is layered like a Russian doll (except that each "doll" is of the same size) with the message as the innermost layer. Each proxy server strips off its own layer of encryption to reveal where to send the message next. If all but one of the proxy servers are compromised by the tracer, untraceability can still be achieved against some weaker adversaries."

EXACTLY ZERO REFERENCES! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.105.12 (talk) 22:52, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I know there's a huge amount of unreferenced stuff on Wikipedia. It's a big problem. Adding more isn't gonna help. By the way, please sign your posts (WP:SIGHOW), thanks.  Yintan  22:55, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Fine. I'll delete everything I find that is unreferenced from now on. That should leave you with a couple of pages, anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.105.12 (talk) 22:59, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be a lot easier to find references for the things you want to add?  Yintan  23:02, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, but I'm kind of having fun now. Check out the Liverpool Magistrates' Court article. Looks pretty sparse now... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.105.12 (talk) 23:03, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

You should have read the refs. The only unreferenced part of that article was the last sentence. Careful.  Yintan  23:06, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

The references were not added in the Harvard Style to which I am accustomed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.105.12 (talk) 23:07, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

In that case I suggest you improve them. Cheers,  Yintan  23:16, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I just improved the wrestling terms page, making it both wittier and more amusing, and you miserable greybeards deleted it! From now on I shall endeavour to make wikipedia worse, not better. Good day to you, Sir! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.105.12 (talk) 23:20, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Until we meet again, then.  Yintan  23:22, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I was just kidding around, it's been fun chatting to you really... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.105.12 (talk) 23:29, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Cheers,  Yintan  23:57, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

George Carlin

Hey, I got your message about George Carlin. I mostly just edited out the profanity in it because I personally believe articles are better read and enjoyable without cussing. It's not meant to damage anything or ruin someone's rep at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123mightywarrior (talk • contribs) 12:42, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I see your point but Wikipedia is uncensored. If the man has said "fucking" then the quotebox will say "fucking", not "f---ing" or "freaking". Kind regards,  Yintan  12:48, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Will the edit remain if I signed it? How do I sign? 123mightywarrior

No, signing has nothing to do with it. Edits aren't signed, only Talkpages (see WP:SIGHOW). Just stop censoring, please, it's considered disruptive. Thanks.  Yintan  14:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Bugs

Annoying. I am also getting bug reports while using Huggle. These reports are common and do not occur for reverting a single user or IP. But that bug lets me continue editing. Faizan 13:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Leave a message at WP:HUGGLE, perhaps?  Yintan  14:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

No time, .... tough competition. Faizan 14:44, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Sign my guestbook Yintan. Faizan 14:47, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Viral Video

Hey,

Not sure why you removed it. On a page for Viral Videos it seemed only fitting to link to a site that categories the most-shared videos across the social web. It is not a commercial website. It's a totally free service for consumers.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.181.2 (talk) 14:18, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I removed it because there are already plenty of links, because the link shouldn't be in a list of Wikipedia articles, and because it's not a notable site. See WP:EL. Thanks,  Yintan  14:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Autograph Book Barnstar
		You have won a barnstar for signing my guestbook, Thanks. Faizan 15:03, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

You don't have toilet at your home? LOL Faizan 15:05, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Wow, that was quick. I do, but since it's such an enormous plane I figured it must be a long walk to the toilets.  Yintan  15:06, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks to Google, but Thanks to you too, again. Faizan 15:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Παρακαλώ. Νάσαι καλά!  Yintan  15:12, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Holbeck

The entry there is self-evidently incorrect as the Industrial Revolution was decades previous to Scholey's death. Also, almost the entire township, streets, pumps, tenants, etc., are still listed in his Will, which is on public display at the Borthwick Institute. 81.131.212.29 (talk) 10:30, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

That's what I was referring to when I asked for a source. Please add it to your edit. Thanks,  Yintan  10:40, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Time to compete...

Hi Yintan, my internet has finally been fixed after a few months, so I am more competent with you at Huggle again...although I believe yours is probably faster. Cheers. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 10:37, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not that competetive. And trust me, I've got the slowest ADSL on the planet (256 kbit/s).  Yintan  11:44, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Based on Speedtest.net, my internet (the one that's fixed) is at most 16Mbps. Those few months when my net was spoilt, I was using some mobile broadband modem which was about 2Mbps. I'm a little surprised that your's is 256Kbps and you can load so fast?! Anyway, I don't really mean competition, just about who reverts first, because I frequently get beaten by others (even Twinklers or undoers). Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 14:11, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

LOL the same here. Based on speedtest.net, my speed is never more than 8 Mbps. But still Huggle lags sometime. Faizan 14:16, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

1.75 Mbps, according to Speednet. But you know about the tortoise and the hare, right?  Yintan  14:32, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Lol, I am the tortoise here. Faizan 14:38, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Yintan, I'm scratching my head. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 14:51, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Why? Itchy? Perhaps you should wash your hair more often?  Yintan  14:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

LOL, because I'm puzzled (I think you already know). Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 14:58, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Vinayaka

I have added reference to all the quoted material from UGC site. UGC stands for University grants commission. It is the sole authority of recognition,accreditation of Universities in India as per the parliamentary acts. Just because some people don't know about this university or ar biased against it doesn't warrant wikpedia to make it look doubtful. That way why don't you go and keep on adding that tag to Harvard university and IIT, Indias too. they don't have this much refernce there. Just because you don't know about a univ doesn't make it needing 100s of citations. I know a few people posting on forums that Osmania univeristy is non existent university in hyderabad from which fake degrees are issued. so are you going to delete Osmania university page on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.23.34.39 (talk) 10:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

You misunderstand. Please read the message about sources on your talkpag and please read WP:COPYVIO. The material you added to the article was copied from vmrf.edu.in and can't be on Wikipedia. Also, vandalizing the article[1] doesn't help, nor does insulting me[2]. Thanks,  Yintan  11:04, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Navgraha temple in nasik, Maharashtra , India

Hi yin tan Wanted to add the newly constructed Nine Planet (Navgraha temples ) "Shri Anna Ganapati Navgraha Siddhapeetham, Vihitgaon , Nasik Road ,Nasik ,Maharashtra , India Temples in the list of Maharashtra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anna Navgraha (talk • contribs) 11:38, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Anna. As I said in the editsummary, adding its complete address is unnecessary. The name alone will do. Kind regards,  Yintan  11:40, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Javal is not jawal

Hi Im a bit baffled by this comment. Javal has nothing to do with Jawal as it is a french family name (google it) and thus it is a constructive contribution to dissociate the two. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.156.124.85 (talk) 14:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello. I fail to see how deleting a valid redirect is a constructive contribution. Until there is an article about Javal, the family, the redirect is fine. If the Javal family is notable at all, that is (see WP:NOTABILITY). Also, you might like to leave an explanation in the edit summary or discuss your plans on the Talkpage. Regards,  Yintan  15:01, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

It s coming but i cant do it if the link keeps reverted. As per the french page of javal it certainly qualifies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.156.124.85 (talk) 15:05, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Have you seen this: Javal family? Redirecting to that article would be a much better solution than deleting.  Yintan  15:08, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

No I hadnt. Great so i dont have to write it. I'm not sure how to create a redirection?

I'll do it.  Yintan  15:11, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Happy editing!  Yintan  15:13, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict × 2) (talk page stalker) In future, just place #REDIRECTName of article on the redirect page. Cheers. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 15:13, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

If you look at the code of the redirect page it's obvious.  Yintan  15:21, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.156.124.85 (talk) 15:14, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, there was an error. The code is supposed to be #REDIRECT[[Name of article]]. Cheers. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 15:19, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Undid Ox Pak Soc Edit

I do not know why you undid it; Oxford Brookes is not a part of Oxford University. Then why is the webmaster from Oxford Brookes listed on the Oxford University Page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.1.157.27 (talk) 16:11, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Don't play dumb[3].  Yintan  21:11, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

What makes you think what I wrote are not constructive?

My modification on Angkor Wat are the facts on why they became Buddhist because some are too dumb to understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.1.69.91 (talk) 21:34, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

This[4] was your work? Then I suggest you begin with trying to understand WP:NPOV and WP:RS. Regards,  Yintan  23:03, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi

Hi,

Sorry about that. I just wanted to check how effectively wiki works.

I had a college time experience when one of the guys changed our college ranking in wikipedia and then shared the link.

But one of my friend pointed out that in wikipedia anyone can edit. Sorry about it again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.93.12.11 (talk) 11:09, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

No sweat. Please use WP:SANDBOX for tests and such. Disruptive editing, even as a test, is not appreciated and could eventually get you blocked. Cheers,  Yintan  12:04, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Nurul Islam Edit

I recently made a change to Nurul Islam's (broadcaster) wikipedia page and you removed it due to having no source. The change that I made was to add the names of his children and I did not provide a source as one of them is my father and I did not have a relevant source to prove this.

I would be very grateful if you could re-do this change as it would make a difference to my family to be remembered alongside their loved one.

Many thanks, Isobel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.156.49.79 (talk) 23:09, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Isobel, but Wikipedia needs verifiable sources for its information, especially when it concerns biographies. Kind regards,  Yintan  23:15, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Akahi Nui

I assume you are an admin. Could you do anything about 212.214.13.26 who is now operating under 213.86.93.33? Using the personal website of either Akahi Nui or his followers, he is editing the article of to make him sound like a legitimate royal descendants when there are no prove any of his genealogical claims are legitimate. I reverted him for now but I know he will be back. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:28, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Kavebear. No, I'm not, and I'm pretty sure I've explained to you before that the place to report vandalism is WP:AIV. Kind regards,  Yintan  10:43, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Top 300 Home Run Hitters

Hi Yintan, I'm the user that deleted part of your "Players to Watch" section of the Top 300 Home Run Hitters. Under Wikipedia rules we have to keep that section updated daily. Traditionally, that section has only listed players within 40 home runs of the cutoff to make the Top 300. It's arbitrary but it makes sense - it's nice to know who's coming up but keeping track of more than a dozen or so players every day who aren't even close to the cutoff is a big hassle. Hence, I think the cutoff should be Brian McCann, who's 40 home runs shy of the cutoff. Otherwise updating the section is a greater hassle than it's worth.

Best, Bobby — Preceding unsigned comment added by BobbyBigWheel (talk • contribs) 13:30, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bobby. First, it's not my "Players to Watch" section. I know f all about baseball . But you removed a chunk of the article without any discussion or edit summary. That's bound to raise the eyebrows of RCP patrollers like myself. I understand your reasoning but maybe it's better if you discuss it on the article's Talkpage first. Otherwise other editors will (probably) undo the change again. Cheers,  Yintan  13:45, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

wheatgrass page

You claimed I did not leave a citation, and I did. So what is wrong with it: http://www.jbc.org/content/152/2/215.short

Dr. Kohler is a renown scientist. Why are you disregarding his work????

Further, you have a chart on that page that is clearly bogus. It is comparing wheatgrass juice, which was probably grown in someone's kitchen, and trying to claim that this was the same as what Dr. Schnabel produced. That is a boldfaced lie! Then you compare this bogus nonsense with broccoli and spinach with no reference whatsoever to how much of each plant was used, what form it was in, etc. How dare you claim that my reference from a very well known scientist published in a respected journal is not legit when you allow that bogus and absurd chart, which has no reference whatsoever, to stand?

Also the tone of your article is to make Dr. Schnabel out to be a crackpot. He was a very respected scientist whose work was published in numerous medical journals.

I would set up an account, but first I wanted to see if what they say about your supporting non-scientific baloney over scientific fact is indeed true, and it appear it is.

It's not my article and I'm not going to argue over Dr. Schnabel's work. I just suggest you read WP:RS and WP:NPOV, guidelines that were adopted to prevent the rise of non-scientific baloney over scientific fact. Also, please sign your message next time (WP:SIGHOW). Kind regards,  Yintan  22:45, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Then why are YOU supporting baloney over scientific fact? I offered a very legitimate reference from a well known scientific journal and you refused it. I also pointed out how bogus and completely unscientific that chart is, but your response was smug and rude. Read up on both these scientists and then tell me why you are allowing them to be made out to be crackpots on your page. Both these men were published in dozens of very respected scientific journals, yet the tone of your article implies that they were ignorant and uneducated fools. You back up this character assassination by putting up a bogus chart that is the same as comparing apples with oranges (tray wheatgrass with true wheatgrass). Further this obviously bogus chart doesn't give any reference as to the amount of these vegetables. Talk about non-scientific baloney! Why would you allow such a thing? In my opinion, you are being extremely irresponsible and unprofessional. Once you are willing to at least admit that your page has serious problems and is a character assassination of a very respected scientist, I will sign up and work with you to improve the page, but as long as you are supporting baloney over scientific fact and allowing the reputations of outstanding scientists to be smudged by people who don't know what they are talking about, I have no respect for you, and signing up or communicating with you is obviously a waste of my time.

Your claim that this is not your page is a cop out. You represent Wikipedia and you are responsible when bogus charts and character assassinations occur. IT IS YOUR PAGE!

Prism

I removed a paragraph criticizing PRISM from Ron Paul. Those are not references that belong in an unbiased article. I gave the reason. This is a free encyclopedia, not a place to enforce libertarian views, here is the paragraph in question:

Ron Paul, a former member of Congress and prominent libertarian, said, "We should be thankful for individuals like Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald who see injustice being carried out by their own government and speak out, despite the risk.... They have done a great service to the American people by exposing the truth about what our government is doing in secret."[68] Paul denounced the government's secret surveillance program: "The government does not need to know more about what we are doing.... We need to know more about what the government is doing."[68] He called Congress "derelict in giving that much power to the government," and said that had he been elected president, he would have ordered searches only when there was probable cause of a crime having been committed, which he said was not how the PRISM program was being operated.[69]

A former member of congress is not a good source for current domestic response. A news source, organization (EFF, ACLU, etc.), or current member of congress are all sources. A retied member of congress has no more sway than an average person on the street. If we leave Ron Paul's response there, then why don't we put other normal citizens' quotes as well?

The section "Domestic Response" also has no claims by those not supporting Snowden. Wikipedia is a place to show all views on the subject, so they should be added. If you leave the Ron Paul quote, then Dick Cheney's response must be added as well.

"A reti[r]ed member of congress has no more sway than an average person on the street"? Interesting opinion. And a retired president? George W. Bush now equals John Doe? In any case, you removed sourced content. If you want to add Cheney's opinion too, go ahead, just make sure it's sourced. And please sign your post next time (WP:SIGHOW). Regards,  Yintan  22:50, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Changes to the Elbert Frank Cox Wikipedia page -- source addresses incorrectly entered --sorry.

hallo Yintan,

I was trying (my first attempt) to enter the source addresses for the text on Elbert Frank Cox and his PhD studies at Cornell University (PhD 1925), which was missing from the Elbert Frank Cox Wikipedia page.

I made a mistake -- entering two http addresses in the source address WITHIN EACH of the brackets instead of each BETWEEN these brackets. Sorry.

The sources of the additions are:

http://www.math.buffalo.edu/mad/PEEPS/cox_elbertf.html (this is where the text came from) and http://www.maa.org/summa/archive/Cox_EF.htm (this confirms the added information)

Can you see the source addresses and help me fix them. Thankx 89.204.137.215 (talk) 22:47, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Give me a minute, I'll take a look.  Yintan  22:52, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Yintan,

OK, my second attempt to fix the error has resulted in messing up the titles of two sections of the Wikipedia Text entitled COLLEGE YEARS and WEST VIRGINIA STATE COLLEGE -- sorry again.

Can you or anyone help to fix this? (Sorry for the error, but the info on Cox is important because the Wiki page completely left out that Elbert Frank Cox did, in fact, earn his PhD from Cornell University in 1924/5, and, that he was the first African American to earn a PhD in Mathematics, ever. In addition, the information is important because it shows that Cornell University was open to such advanced scientific work by African American (Cornell University was also one of the first US Universities to admit women to graduate law and science programs).

Thanks for your help.

89.204.137.215 (talk) 22:57, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

That error has already been fixed. Considering your first question, is this[5] any help? Short version: just enter <ref>the URL</ref> at the appropriate spot(s) in the text. Regards,  Yintan  23:00, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Yintan, I fixed the problem on the Elbert Frank Cox Wikipedia page after all. Thankx. 89.204.137.215 (talk) 23:03, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Happy editing,  Yintan  23:16, 20 June 2013 (UTC)