Talk:Poverty in India

Why would someone want to remove a valid statement?

Well, someone without a username thinks its a great move to remove the statement I had inserted which said that there IS a confusion in India regarding the correct estimate of poverty. That statement is VERY important because unless we know how many are poor in India, how can we even have a debate on what causes poverty, its impact, etc. Every discussion would be futile if the estimation of poverty varies from 27% to 80%.

This very article had stated (before my edit) that the Planning Commission of India has accepted 27.5% as the poverty percentage before protests made them take a U turn and accept the Tendulkar Committee report of 37%. That 10% is a huge difference!

See this earlier version:

According to the criterion used by the Planning Commission of India, 27.5% of the population was living below the poverty line in 2004–2005, down from 51.3% in 1977–1978, and 36% in 1993-1994.

And I wonder why this important information (change that I made to the above sentence) has been removed:

Earlier, the Planning Commission had said that 27.5% of the population was living below the poverty line in 2004–2005, down from 51.3% in 1977–1978 and 36% in 1993–1994^[5] based on the 61st round of the National Sample Survey (NSS), and the criterion used was monthly per capita consumption expenditure below 356.35 for rural areas and 538.60 for urban areas.

I hope people will be more civic enough to discuss issues before making fanciful changes. Now, I don't want to revert the edits that have been made as it would only lead to a foolish, unwanted exercise. (Saildew (talk) 18:35, 8 April 2011 (UTC))

Consensus

I think we have achieved as much consensus as we are going to achieve. User:Otolemur crassicaudatus has agreed that having a beggar image is not right. I do not know what his reasoning behind keeping it is now, since it tends to change as time goes by.

"I agree that the other articles on poverty has no beggar image, it is not right, and I also agree that all articles should be uniform" [1]

User:Adam.J.W.C. doesnt seem like he's ever going to yield. Since he always tends to wait for the discussion to be over and then just inserts the image again. As he has done here], here

"If he photo is removed, just weight a month or so then re insert it, if it is removed again then do one revert per day after that, I don't think you would be breaking any law by doing so. I could step in as well" [2]

There are somethings about which not everyone will agree. I think we have enough people agreeing that the image should be removed as it is not an appropriate portrayal of poverty in india and an exploitation of one's "poverty and disability by exaggerating his helplessness at the time of begging"

Bodhgaya image et al

Wikipedia is an certain nations website. Most articles are written to spite India. Most of what is written here and what has been written since Vasco da gama set his accursed foot on Indian soil is to spite India, Indian religions and Indian traditions. Which is why we have Slumdog Millionaire winning Oscars, and Lagan loosing. The world of a certain complexion wishes India to lose even in a fantasy. There is no denying that India is wretched grim poverty, the person in the photograph is using his disabled anatomy to earn money just as it is common in rich, certain complexion countries for persons of a certain gender, to enhance certain aspects of their anatomy to earn money. I vote for as many photos of filth and despair. Wake up Indian friends, an average US citizen eats 270 pounds of meat in a year. And there are the cars that they drive, the lawns that they water, the pets that they feed, the suburban sprawl they live in. That is why other nations are poor. The rich certain complexion world, and the rich of the poor black world have cornered resources to leave the rest hungry, homeless and without health, education, freedom and honour. And then they send there their aid and missionaries to save our souls.

Aside from the fact that this is a page to discuss the article, not your personal feelings... you can just go ahead and say "evil white people" instead of "the world of a certain complexion". Everybody knows that's what you really mean, so it is unclear as to why you think you need to be clever about it... or why you aren't ranting in a blog instead of here. 192.54.250.11 (talk) 17:03, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Slumdog Millionaire

There is no relevance to having a link to the movie Slumdog Millionaire in this page. The movie was a work of fiction while this page is meant to portray facts. The other poverty pages have no links to fictitious works meant for profiteering. It is akin to having a link to Inglorious Basterds in the Liberation of Paris page or Avatar in the forced migration/refugee.This movie has shown only about the poverty in Mumbai which is place of cellebraties . Here people can earn thier livelyhood easily but in other parts of India or in Maharashtra people are living a harsh life : no water,electricity,medical facilities,education........etc I think that government should take some charge about those people they are helpless. They even can't express their feelings to the govenment cause they are illitrate and they are more supressed . All the educated people wont move on that place because they think that this place is useless and find there jobs on a big citties like Delhi,Mumbai...........

Communal Award

But for Bania Gandhi, implementation of Communal Award instead of Reservation in India would have alleviated poverty among Dalits. --4thaugust1932 (talk) 07:13, 6 March 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4thaugust1932 (talk • contribs) 07:10, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Causes of poverty in India

I think that one of the major original reasons of the poverty crisis was the steady destruction of India's industries by British imperialism. Jawaharlal Nehru, in his 'The Discovery of India' describes in great detail how India was transformed into a market colony to fuel Britain's industrial revolution. India's traditional ethnic industries were destroyed, new landed classes arose and sanctions and duties were imposed to curb Indian industry. Initially every effort was made to keep the masses ignorant and backward by withholding scientific and technological advances in India. I do think this is an important background the article should provide under the section of 'Causes'. Zafar142003 (talk) 04:06, 21 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zafar142003 (talk • contribs) 04:03, 21 June 2013 (UTC)