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 It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. "Nightclub" entry should be titled "Dance Club"!Please see the Wikipedia "Nightclub" entry. The term "nightclub" was well-established (long before the advent of discotheques) as a term primarily referencing what's also known as a "cabaret." In the US at least, the term "nightclub" continues to refer to a range of establishments open predominantly at night (potentially offering food or alcohol) that exist primarily to offer various forms of entertainment. Dance clubs are a form of nightclub, but so, too (unquestionably), are jazz clubs, comedy clubs, and many other forms of nighttime entertainment venues. The Wikipedia entry titled "nightclub," which discusses only dance clubs, is therefore grossly misleading. The "nightclub" entry should be retitled "dance club," and an entirely new entry for "nightclub" should be created, surveying the range of venues -- or at the very least, recast as a "disambiguation" entry linking to entries for the various types of venues that the term "nightclub" subsumes. I've entered the above as topic on the entry's "talk" page. It appears that this matter has been discussed under some of the other talk topics, but it hasn't been resolved. To some extent, the problem may be a divergence in terminology between the US and the UK (where "nightclub" may be taken for granted as referring to dance clubs); the divergence may also be generational (derivative of youth-culture colloquialisms like "clubbing" or "club kids," generally associated with dance clubs). Ironically, I stumbled on this situation as a 64-year-old gay man from New York, now living in California, when I was seeking material on the 1970s disco scene, and the entry for "Discotheque" redirected me to "Nightclub." Given that my father was a jazz afficionado who hung out at the 52nd Street jazz clubs in 1940s-50s NYC (my longtime sense of what constitutes a "nightclub"), I was utterly shocked! What do you think of my retitling/disambiguation idea? How can I most productively proceed in trying to resolve this without gargantuan effort? I'm not able to monitor the "talk" page constantly, and (as a Wikipedia non-member) I'm not sure whether the proper metaphor for what I fear I'm confronting is "major surgery" or "quicksand," but I'd be happy to receive and respond to email: mitchell@mitchellhalberstadt.net 173.241.20.165 (talk) 13:32, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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