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Mass in Kg weight in Pounds?

Never heard of this. We weight people in Kg up where I live. We rarely use pounds (just the old people). In the USA I know the nonscientific us pounds and the scientific us Kg. Maybe that is the difference. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:16, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Apropos of your edit at Richard Watson (singer) I had no idea that "coauthors" was now deprecated. I have put this field in dozens, probably hundreds, of articles. Is there any way of replacing the lot or is it a matter of remembering to change them when next visiting each article? Tangentially, following what I find the prevalent practice in printed references, I prefer the second author to be John Smith, rather than Smith, John. It's not a matter of great importance, and I see the WP:cite book page allows for this. I'll go down that route in future, and am obliged to you for raising the matter. Best wishes, Tim riley (talk) 19:09, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Your copyediting

Your copyediting is okay sometimes. But shouldn't, as a copyeditor, you always make articles better? Or should we just say everyone is prone to make mistakes? Your copyediting over at Adolescent sexuality in the United States leaves much to be desired. And your copyedits elsewhere consist of you making unnecessary, sometimes unnecessarily elaborate, changes. You overtag and overuse blockquotes. I also think that when one or more editors reject your copyedits, you should just back off. If your copyedits are truly an improvement, then discuss them on the talk page when rejected. But try more often to see why others don't or might not appreciate your copyediting. In some cases, you are dealing with Wikipedia editors far more experienced than you and who are far better at building articles than you. 72.216.11.67 (talk) 15:32, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know who you are or why you are saying this. Willing to listen if you start making sense or put this into context.
  1. "editors far more experienced than you" You have 25 edits; I have over 1000 -- I'm confused here by your statement there
  2. I stopped using blockquotes after Adolescent sexuality in the United States almost entirely. I do use them in the editing window to save from clutter, but that makes absolutely no difference on rendered text.
  3. Are you signed out, a sockpuppet, or a newbie? You the person at Fuck who reverted me twice?
  4. And yes, I tag. I also consistently remove tags. Tagging is important, you realize. It's how I find articles to edit. Otherwise you have to click 'Random Page' -- which I do -- and it becomes tedious. Much easier for sparse commentary for willing editors.
  5. I never claimed to perfect Adolescent sexuality in the US. That was long ago, and it sucked to begin with. It still sucks; I didn't improve the tone of it, I fixed punctuation and the like. I've taken a break from it because I felt I was spinning my wheels; I admit it was a big article for a newcomer to tackle, but you can't just generalize an entire editor for a single article. I also utilize talk pages.
I never triumph over others when I correct their mistakes. I aim to improve content. I'm also not a retard. Watch your tone. You read 'Bite the newbies' ever?

meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 16:08, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm saying it because your copyediting is often messy. I think you know that some editors started out as IP editors watching others edit, that they learned the ways of Wikipedia by watching and/or occasionally editing before starting to edit Wikipedia regularly. No, I'm not a signed-out sockpuppet. If I have a registered account, communicating with you on your talk page without signing in does not make me a WP:Sockpuppet. No, I'm not Til Eulenspiegel. Tagging is important. Overtagging is not. For example, if an article or section of an article has a big tag on it that says that additional references are needed, it is overkill to then add citation-needed tags for each unsourced statement. I was actually typing up a response to you before Til Eulenspiegel even reverted you. And this[1] is not a WP:Dummy edit. A WP:Dummy edit does not change the text that way. What you added there is an invisible note. To make a WP:Dummy edit, the only thing you'd have to do, for example, is space a heading a bit (without making a WP:Whitespace). Get it together if you are going to continue copyediting this site. 72.216.11.67 (talk) 16:30, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I recant. You are not a sockpuppet. No offense intended; you wrote as if you have been here many times before. Passive observers do exist. I seriously doubt you've followed Wiki more than I have, but that's not my point.
My point is -- seriously, can you be more specific? Fuck had neither an article tag, nor a section tag. It was a former featured article that I wanted to refurbish, and that's not a crime. "Messy" and "get it together" is not constructive criticism - those are insults. What have thread you been following? Have my edits at Death pissed you off? Me fixing the badly-written Akathisia? Me backing off at ASCII art when another editor reverted my edit? My tendency to defer to others' opinions? Me preserving the links at Barack Obama? Me adding Template:Es icon on North America and adding quotes? Me politely proposing a new system at Abuse because it didn't make sense? Fixing Fall Out Boy's links? Making redirects and pulling together Antidepressant? The silent corrections I've made to hundreds of articles? If you have issues with Adolescent Sexuality, why tell me now? Are you wanting me to change something in the article, 3 months after I edited it? "Something to be desired" -- I'm not even working on it.
An aside - Yes, it is a dummy edit. Read the page: "Adding an HTML comment. For example, adding to a page will not affect its presentation."
Don't lecture me. I am starting to doubt you having good faith. In fact, you seem so angry with me, you have just insinuated I leave the site lest I 'get my act together'. Who are you to say that to me? Have you even copyedited once, or do you just criticize? Be polite or get off my page. You are not being civil nor are you making a point, just putting me down. meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 17:03, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have definitely followed Wikipedia more than you. That should be obvious by the fact that I know more about editing it than you. Your edits are often messy. Saying so is constructive criticism to me since I want you to improve and take the time to discuss your copyedits when people object to them. Doing that is certainly better than edit warring like you did at the Fuck article. It hasn't been three months since you edited the Adolescent sexuality in the United States article. I pointed to that because it is one of the biggest examples of your editing being less than stellar. And your way of adding dummy edits is not a dummy edit to me. If it requires another editor to remove it, not so much a dummy edit and best left avoided. No, I'm not angry with you. Read WP:Civil. I mean it that I want your editing to improve. Peace. 72.216.11.67 (talk) 17:20, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]