User talk:DeliDumrul

Welcome!

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Thanks a bunch! DeliDumrul 20:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bir şey değil. ;) —Khoikhoi 20:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I believe you can do whatever you want with PD images, as they're not copyrighted. —Khoikhoi 00:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm not sure if that's necessary, but you might try {{GFDL}} or {{GFDL-self}}. —Khoikhoi 00:53, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or {{PD-self}}. —Khoikhoi 00:53, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Bizansist touchup.jpg

What, was the sea flooded with macaroni? ;) There are some pretty good images of Turkey in my gallery. My favorite of which is this one:

Yeah, you did a good job, I just thought it was funny. That image is already in the Antalya article btw. —Khoikhoi 04:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I like that too—thanks! —Khoikhoi 04:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, cool! Thanks again, it looks great. :) —Khoikhoi 05:01, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Yes

I dunno, you guys don't want the Greek name mentioned AT ALL in the intro, while we want it at the very top—I think it makes a nice compromise. We have the Turkish name at Samothrace for example, what's so bad about that? —Khoikhoi 17:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as you said from the naming conventions, the names that are not relevant should be in a separate section. I believe that the Greek name is, but anyways, you might want to see these articles for example:

Sibiu (IPA [si'biw], German: Hermannstadt, Hungarian: Nagyszeben) -- in Romania
Hrodna (Belarusian: Гро́дна, Го́радня, Гаро́дня; Russian: Гро́дно, Grodno; Polish: Grodno, German: Garten) -- in Belarus

The way that I see it, is that it's good to represent all the history of a place, not just its recent history. There are tons of Turkish city articles that have the Greek, Armenian, etc. names at the top, and I personally think they're helpful for historial reference. For example, if I want to know what modern-day city is "Ancyra", I can just type it in, and clearly see it at the top of the Ankara article.

Anyways, I'm very sorry for being rude (unlike where you are, the whether sucks today, and I guess people get mad when it's 85 degrees F.). I hope the dispute ends soon... :) —Khoikhoi 22:10, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Placenames

I certainly have nothing personal with you. But as I can see your countributions to Istanbul article have been significant, yet for a strange reason, you dont seem to follow your own remarks regarding alternative names. You add the Turkish name AT THE TOP of Alexandroupoli article but you dont add the Greek name AT THE TOP of Istanbul article. That of course is totally unacceptable. So i ve discussed with other editors one solution: That is to add names in the article and not at the TOP. This solution seems to work. But I, personally, will not tolerate adding Turkish names on Greek places(AT THE TOP) when there is no adding of the Greek name in a place of such importance to Greeks as Istanbul.Regards.Mywayyy 17:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No offence, but you seem to have a problem on adding the Greek name AT THE TOP of the Istanbul article, cause when someone added it you immediately erased it! Besides that, your statement that if we add the Greek name then we should add the Armenian too is not very correct due to the fact that Greeks and Armenians dont have the same historical/cultural significance for Istanbul the same way one could say that Bulgarians dont have the same significance for Alexandroupoli as Turks. Either way, I think the solution I offered you would stop this reverts-war.I think our articles at the moment are just fine. Agreed?Mywayyy 17:42, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is a shame we cannot agree to that. You seem a logical and open-minded kind of person and I really appreciate that. I also cant agree that Greek and Turkish people are friends, though I would like that from the bottom of my heart for the benefit especially of the Turkish people. Unfortunately the situation is more complex than that. And the present situation is NOT due to historical facts as some people wish to think rather than the internal political situation of Turkey and the importance of the Army. For this situation Turkish people are aslo responsible because they tolerate this situation. In Greece if there was a similar situation it is absolutely certain that the public would somehow respond (as in 1974). Greece constanly, and everybody knows that, backs Turkeys effords to become a democratic EU-orriented country plus it tries to maintain a rather calm attitude to various provocations, an attitude many countries wouldnt show and an attitude Greek public opinion is sick and tired (now). So Turkey's policy with the blessings of the Turkish people, since they tolerate it, has achieved (some of) the following:

1. It lags far behind developed countries, beiing a poor country with a medium Human Development Index, a result of stubborn political choices.

2. It starts pissing off ,other than Greece, European partners because they see no progress but a I-dont-give-a-shit attitude.

3. It starts pissing off Greek public opinion (Greeks 2 years ago were split evenly to whether they support an EU Turkey- now 68% is against).

So you see Greeks and Turkish people are not so friends after all, although I wish someday to become.RegardsMywayyy 19:01, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]