Talk:Teaching English as a foreign language

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Internationally recognized programs

Footnotes 6 and 7 are used as support for a statement that only CELTA and Trinity are internationally recognized. The first sort appears to be a blog from one teacher in Spain. The second one is a British newspaper article that seems to only consider UK programs in its statement (the whole article is Brit oriented). But look at what WSI says: http://www.wallstreetinstitute.com/jobSeekers/teachingstaff/certifications.aspx, where SIT and other programs are described as ones which "Reputable employers worldwide recognize" after first giving priority to CELTA and Trinity. (The WSI is a division of Pearson, a leading ELF publisher.)

Kdammers (talk) 13:43, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, WSI says that "[Cambridge ESOL CELTA and Trinity CERT TESOL] are the only certificates on the market that are externally accredited and externally moderated"(emphasis in the original). Not sure of what this means, mind you. Yes, we need to add those other courses. --Enric Naval (talk) 17:05, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Footnote 6 is used once for something I can't find in the source. The other use of it raises the question of the quality of the source. It appears to be one teacher's unsupported opinion on a sub-page of a commercial site for teaching in Italy. Kdammers (talk) 07:57, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, footnote 6 links to a page where a teacher says online TEFL certifications are scams to take your money and then they advertise an e-book written by the teacher. I think it's spam and should be removed. It's also inaccurate as many employers do accept online TEFL certifications. 66.87.2.234 (talk) 01:34, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Korean severance pay

"Korean labor law provides all workers with a severance pay equivalent to one month's salary is paid at the end of a contract" - I really doubt this (depending on the definition of "workers"): university instructors normally do not get any severance pay. Kdammers (talk) 08:05, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

chains in ROK

Here is a reference saying (in its first sentence) that most hagweons are chains or franchises: http://www.asia-pacific-connections.com/hakwon_franchises.html. I don't know if this ref. qualifies as citable, though.

NNESTs in Europe

"In Europe, being an English native speaker is required" -- This is not true. For example, there are thousands of Germans teaching English in public schools in Germany. The number of native speakers teaching English in them is very small. Also, the section on Scandinavia points out the equivalent situation there. Perhaps the sentence should read some-thing like, 'if you are a foreigner, you must be a native speaker of English to teach in [many/most/all?] countries in Europe." But I don't know if that is what is meant, so I won't make that change. Kdammers (talk) 13:24, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikivoyage

There is a Wikivoyage article Teaching English, written as an intro for travellers who might teach. I should likely be linked here. 99.224.165.88 (talk) 02:49, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and added it in a new External Links section. ;-) --AtomicSource (talk) 09:20, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Camps

In a number of countries, e.g., ROK, English camps are a common place of employment for EFL instructors. This should be incorporated into our article. Kdammers (talk) 04:00, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pay in China

The pay rates listed from 2008 are seriously out of date. China's esl/efl market has evolved quite a bit since 2008. Have updated them with current figures that are more representative of the reality (I will be cleaning this up and expanding on it, as well as formatting with breaks). In fact, plenty of the china info is poorly written; I will be updating more in the near future to reflect the current state of affairs.

TK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.96.138.53 (talk) 15:04, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]