Talk:Germania

This article has not yet been rated on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

History Start‑class High‑importance

	History portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the subject of History on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject HistoryTemplate:WikiProject Historyhistory articles
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Classical Greece and Rome Start‑class Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome, a group of contributors interested in Wikipedia's articles on classics. If you would like to join the WikiProject or learn how to contribute, please see our project page. If you need assistance from a classicist, please see our talk page.Classical Greece and RomeWikipedia:WikiProject Classical Greece and RomeTemplate:WikiProject Classical Greece and RomeClassical Greece and Rome articles
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

History Start‑class Low‑importance

	History portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the subject of History on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject HistoryTemplate:WikiProject Historyhistory articles
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Modern use section

This section states that Several modern languages use the name "Germania" including...French (Allemagne), Spanish (Alemania) but these two are not actually based on the word Germania, they are based on the word Alamanni which was a Germanic tribe nation. You can read the details on the Alamanni article on the fifth paragraph and on Names of Germany on the Names from Alemanni section. Maybe the other languages on that statement might need to be checked too.

The others checks out. I have removed the two wrongly inserted names. You are welcome to remove such obvious errors yourself if you stumble upon them in future. If you remember to use the edit summary when fixing them, I highly doubt anyone would object. Thanks. --Saddhiyama (talk) 17:05, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please fix Germania, Germaina Magna whey it is clear shown that many Czech towns where part of Germania Magna and please nopt the mountain ranges on the maps, Swiss alps, tatra mountains, Sudetes. Also its a fact the the blucina Sword from 5th century was found near Brno and from a germanic king. I have supplyed many links below. http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/photo-gallery-ptolemy-s-geography-fotostrecke-59994-2.html http://www.cs-magazin.com/index.php?a=a2011021048 http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDatei%3APtolemaeus_Magna_Germania.jpg http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3APtolemaios_1467_Scandinavia.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu%C4%8Dina_burial http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorstengraf_(Blu%C4%8Dina) Also the same type of swords found at two different cities in present day Germany. http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleidelsheim http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villingendorf. Atilla the Hun never went through Czech lands. Do your own research he went up the Danube and the Rhine and was killed in France. Stop slandering Czech people with your false history, Casurgis from Australia is watching — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.32.235.227 (talk) 02:07, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect

Do you think this should this become a redirect - or a disambiguation page, given the alternate meaning - pointing to Gaius Cornelius Tacitus#Germania? Were it not for the external links, there’d be no reason to keep a separate article on this topic (given its current length). Even the EL section, however, can be merged with that of the Tacitus article. -- Itai 02:57, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I think not. There are lengthy books about Tacitus' Germania, some of which I have read; I've split it off into Germania (book) and will work on expanding it. —No-One Jones 03:55, 11 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Germania as geographical area?

Well, how about writing an article about the geographical area 'Germania' as described by the Romans (especially Tacitus) as is being done on the Danish article on da:Germania e.g.? Fedor 11:22, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Arnold Monkeynator

I'm assuming this section is some kind of joke and so should be removed?LilacPhonograph 14:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

is it?

Are Gepidi, venedi and others east showen regians Germans??? They are Balts :P Zordsdavini 13:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On what do you base this? The names and probable place of origin seems more Germanic to me (Gepids). Krastain 19:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Germany/Germania

In my version of Tacitus' Agricola & Germania, the latin word "Germania" is translated with "Germany". Should I use "Germania" or "Germany" for my history paper? I know that Germany obviously didn't exist at the time, but I read at dict.leo.org's discussion site that "Germany" is commonly used to translate "Germania" from latin. 66.194.72.243 09:48, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on the perspective of your paper. If you are writing about ancient times, I would use "Germania" because the use of "Germany" will instill a picture in the readers mind about modern day Germany, which is vastly different than ancient Germania in both geographic scope and inhabitants. It just helps keep the idea from becoming convoluted. Anable 17:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't matter, which name you use. Germany is the anglicised form of Germania. The real name of "Germany" is "Deutschland" anyway. In "German"/Deutsch, the word German refers to any Germanic peoples. JeanLeMagne (talk) 12:14, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fault in the map

It marks Denmark with Jutland as Germania. That's a fault. I will remove tho picture if no sources for that is provided --Arigato1 02:03, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strabo

the quote is not original or distorted.

Neighbors of the Celts, the Germans inhabit the land to the east of the Rhine river. They differ only little from the Celtic people, are a bit wilder, a bit larger and blonder, but nevertheless resemble the Celts in appearance , nature and way of living. Therefore, I think, the Romans gave them the name (germanicus celti). They wanted to describe them as "true" Gauls (Celts). For in the Roman language "Germans" (germanicus) means "the true ones".

I tryed some phrases the last one [1] and google = 0.

In contrast the Tacitus is found [2]

Is it free hand translation ? I doubt Strabo wrote about Germans :). "the Germans inhabit the land" Nasz 18:05, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History Article

This article isnt a joke by any means. And it isnt a geographical article either, so it shouldnt be merged with the Germania article. Its about European culture afer the fall of Rome, and the Roman influence on the Germans, resulting in the Romano German culture of the Holy Roman Empire. The early parts of the article explain the long history between the Romans and Germans and the slow Romanization of the Germans mostly through Germans in the legions, and after the fall, Roman German marriages. --ProfMozart 05:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ProfMozart is referring to his pet article Romano German. There is a template there suggesting that it might be merged with Germania. I believe the article has no business on Wikipedia, but the input of other editors would be most welcome. -- Rob C (Alarob) 23:29, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Id appricate it if people didnt insult the article, it isnt a pet article, and it is culturally significant. Just as much as Romano British or Roman Gaul. If there is a problem with the article, its grammer errors, and you have to excuse me, English isnt my native languge. I noticed that wiki did not have this article, but it did have others on Roman influence of other peoples, so i made it. I figured it was the last piece of the "Roman-X culture" articles. --ProfMozart 03:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Romano German definitely should not be merged into this article as it is an inappropriate article for Wikipedia and has been through two deletions already because of it's inappropriate nature. The editor managed to get it back on by pestering one of the administrators that deleted the article. Most of the references are to poets and the other reference has yet to be found by anyone in any library. Definitely doesn't belong here and should be deleted for the final time as this article is complete nonsense. Xtreme racer 22:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok Rob so your saying there needs to be a citation after "After the fall of Rome in 476 ad"? or another citation after "Pope Leo crowning charlemange as emperor"? ok, then who did?? everyone knows Pope Leo did. come on all those citations are bogus, you know the Western empire fell in 476, so why the citation? thats why I take it as a personal attack cause you are citating common knowledge, sorry to keep saying it but you know it is. And it feels personal cause thats like citating "the sky is blue". But maybe you are right about the name of the article and the grammer. you know english isnt my naitive tounge, and Romano German Culture could be a better name for it. I'm not saying im not open to change on it, im just saying it should be there.

And Extreme racer, just for the record, I referred to being a Scholar once, so please stop saying I "keep" saying that. Secondly the only comments I erased was on this page's old discussion page, which was pretty much a diffrent article, so again please stop saying I "keep" erasing your comments. I am always open for suggestions.--ProfMozart 23:14, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This talk page is for comments on the Germania article. -- Rob C (Alarob) 13:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question on removed maps

Arigato1 mentioned a map that marks Denmark incorrectly. When there are maps and illustrations removed from Wikipedia, where are they put? OR, are they just deleted? genealogyjohn 12:31 05 June 2010 (CST)

I tink the first map of Germania is relevant for this article. Only with this, every can see one of the early European cities.--88.73.177.139 (talk) 15:41, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Names of Germany in English and some other languages are derived from "Germania", though the country's own inhabitants call it "Deutschland".

Why does the English speaking world refer to the country as Germany instead of Deutschland? Is Deutschland too hard for them to pronounce?108.23.147.17 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:22, 30 September 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Greek empire from 2nd century onwards not not exist it was Roman colony. Germania Magna was Poland and Czech Republic look at maps

Please fix Germania, Germaina Magna it's clearly shown that many Czech towns where part of Germania Magna and please look at the mountain ranges on the maps, Swiss alps, tatra mountains, Sudetes. Even Olomouc over in the North east of the Czech Republic had two different latin names (Iuliomontium,Roman fort (Mons Iulii). Also its a fact the the Blucina Sword from 5th century was found near Brno and from a germanic king. Czech cities located in Germanina Magna taken from Ptolemy's maps 2nd century AD located in present day Czech Republic Furgisatis u České Budějovice Meliodunum in the sand Strevinta for Hříměždic to the West of Sedlčany Casurgis u Prahy Redintuinum u Loun Nomisterium in Litoměřice Hegetmatia in Mladá Boleslav Budorgis in Cologne Coridorgis in Jihlava Eburum u Hrádku Znojmo, East of Parienna in Breclav Eburodunum u Brno Setuia at Komořan near Vyškov Felicia u Vyškova Asanca u Kojetína Carredunum in Rýmařov I have supplyed many links below to verify. http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/photo-gallery-ptolemy-s-geography-fotostrecke-59994-2.html http://www.cs-magazin.com/index.php?a=a2011021048 http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDatei%3APtolemaeus_Magna_Germania.jpg http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3APtolemaios_1467_Scandinavia.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu%C4%8Dina_burial http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorstengraf_(Blu%C4%8Dina) Also the same type of swords found at two different cities in present day Germany. http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleidelsheim http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villingendorf. Atilla the Hun never went through Czech lands. Do your own research he went up the Danube ( Germany, Austria) and the Rhine West Germany, France) and he was killed in France(Gaul) in 454AD. Also its a fact that the Blucina Sword from 5th century was found near Brno(Latin:Eburodunum) and was from a Germanic king. Two gold Germanic swords of the same type have been found in present day central Germany located in Pleidelsheim and Villingendorf. Look at the links above and make your own opinion. And then decide if an Americian writer(Note: Americia was and will always be a former British and English colony)who wrote a 20th century book about European history when he or she has never ever been to Europe. Note Americia did not exist in the middle ages only native Indians lived there before 15th century. Casurgis from Australia is watching