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Martial arts vandal again

It looks like the martial arts vandal is back again, as 90.200.123.41 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). I don't want to become naively optimistic about him, but he only seems to be edit warring with one person right now instead of the epic edit wars under previous IP addresses (50–100 reverts per day). Maybe this is actually beginning to work out a little bit. If he stops edit warring and blanking categories, I would tentatively be open to letting him edit in peace. It seems like a long shot, but who knows? Maybe he's getting tired of constantly being blocked. Sorry to see that you're having PC trouble. For a little while, I was stuck on an old, low-end laptop after my desktop died. I know your pain. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:11, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@NinjaRobotPirate: Agreed - edits not too bad now, if we leave him alone - at least you know where he is. He's on an old IP, maybe he thinks he's running out of unused IPs? Think PC has killed it's C: drive - still under it's 3 year warranty, so back to makers, stuck with a modest eMachines laptop (but I'm using main PC mouse and keyboard!), at least it modern enough to be AMD 64 bit, but not as quick as the overclocked i7...  :-( Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:26, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's working out. He's insisting on blanking categories and edit warring to maintain these edits. He's currently engaged in edit wars with Dl2000, MarnetteD, and me across several articles after we attempted to restore blanked content or remove original research. I tried to communicate with him, but he ignored me, as usual. I don't know what to say except that his edits are only becoming more bold and disruptive as time goes on. I don't think he has any intention of changing his behavior, unfortunately. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:32, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The new account is 90.205.211.165 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). I'm going to report it to AIV, but I figured I'd keep you in the loop. It looks like he's gone right back to 75% edit warring and 25% editing. It might be best to go back to protecting the pages that he edits. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:38, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@NinjaRobotPirate:I see 1 week block by Edgar181, pages done. Wait for the next IP address... :-( Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like we didn't have to wait too long! 90.197.96.26 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) seems to be the newest one. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:15, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And another one bites the dust. :-) Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:45, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of File:Wolfram Wöß Portrait.jpg

Hello, as I am new to Wikipedia I think I am not completely into licensing. I currently try to create the page Draft:Wolfram Wöß and therefore I wanted to add the file File:Wolfram Wöß Portrait.jpg from my personal website (http://wwoess.faw.at/ww_biography.html). For this issue I even added CC BY-SA 4.0 License information there. As I own this file I can not really figure out the problem, can you please tell me what is still missing? Thank you for your help and best regards, Wolfram Wöß (User: Laoswikiedit) Laoswikiedit (talk) 09:44, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Laoswikiedit: The file was deleted due to lack of documented permission, if you are the photographer then please follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries, if you are not the photographer, then the person who took the image needs to file the consent. Mlpearc (open channel) 10:38, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Mlpearc: I am the photographer and I followed the instructions at Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries, but still it got deleted. Laoswikiedit (talk) 15:01, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Laoswikiedit: We have a real (unusual) problem with this one. Although there is a cc notice at http://wwoess.faw.at/ww.html?/ww_biography.html, when I look at the image page information I get 02 February 2015 12:07:25. However the page targeted by the speedy notice was http://www.jku.at/faw/content/e233808/index_html?team_view=section&emp=e233808/employee_groups_wiss233822/employees240280 and that image has a page information of 02 February 2015 08:59:07, in addition I can find http://austria-forum.org/af/Wissenssammlungen/Wissenschaftler/W%C3%B6%C3%9F,_Wolfram with image info of 20 February 2012 19:45:00 and there are some others. Thus it appears that the licensed image at http://wwoess.faw.at/ww.html?/ww_biography.html is the youngest image, and would therefore suggest it has been copied from one of those other sites - so although this could be a proper release it will inevitably be regarded as "license laundering", and will keep getting put up for deletion. I've restored for now and put up an {{OTRS pending}} to give us all time to sort it out. I note that none of the web images have any EXIF data, the images have all been edited without keeping the EXIF data (it's a tricky, but not impossible thing to do).
Therefore where do we go forward, choices...
1. If you have the original camera image with full EXIF data then
(a) Upload that to the same image page (but only if you are happy to release the full image to CC!) OR
(b) Send image to me (Ron Jones) at the permissions address on WP:DCM, so we can make a record of the EXIF data - we would then add an OTRS ticket to show we have validated the claim (this is probably the best option overall)
2. If you don't still have the original, then maybe one that is much bigger? All the images seem to be 180x180 or 200x200, so a much bigger one would tend to show ownership.
Hope that all makes some sense. There may be other options, nothing is coming to mind at the moment. Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:09, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Ronhjones: Ok for clarification:
(1) http://wwoess.faw.at/ww.html?/ww_biography.html is my personal Homepage, where I upload my preferred version (same as on Wikipedia) of the picture.
(2) http://www.jku.at/faw/content/e233808/index_html?team_view=section&emp=e233808/employee_groups_wiss233822/employees240280 is my institutes website, I personally added the picture there, but unfortunately they request a special format, this is why it might not be exact the same image as the one of my website.
(3) http://austria-forum.org/af/Wissenssammlungen/Wissenschaftler/W%C3%B6%C3%9F,_Wolfram and all other sources on the web, where you will find my picture, got the picture from me or took it from the institutes website. None of my private pictures include Copyright Information, because I am NOT a professional photographer.
Removing EXIF data is not tricky, you have just to take a frame of a larger picture. And this is necessary when you have to take a picture with remote control in order to avoid copyright conflicts with with Wikipedia. As this website is build purely from user content I feel quite mistreated simply trying to upload a picture from myself. I hope this attempt works for you, I just uploaded the images with EXIF data to Wikipedia as well as my website. Laoswikiedit (talk) 12:10, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Laoswikiedit: I meant it's tricky to keep the EXIF data (not great grammar though... I was always rubbish at English grammar... also like most mad scientists I know, slightly dyslexic... ) - far too many editing program throw away the EXIF data as soon as you make an edit, or one copies a section and makes a new image... Anyway, I've tidied up the image page and left a note on File talk:Wolfram Wöß Portrait.jpg, which hopefully will stop any further issues. Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:00, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for Approving Images

I really appreciate you approving on February 22, 2015 the several images I submitted. Thank you. I checked the pages and noted that the OTRS Pending notice is still showing on the following articles: E. R. Moon, James A Bushnell, Victor P. Morris (waiting approval to publish), Pacific Christian Hospital, and Martha Goodrich Administration Building (still in draft). It disappeared from Eugene C. Sanderson article. What is involved in getting those notices removed? Any help would be appreciated. Tbergquist (talk) 23:00, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Tbergquist: Articles - Draft approval - that's all done by the AfC reviewers. The OTRS notices should not be on the article page - please move them to the associated talk page. I tend to concentrate on images. The text ones should get done at some time, and then the permission template will be put in place.

Sandrine Bessora Nan Nguema

I noticed that you deleted this redirect with the comment Unsourced - no published link. There are at minimum the published material mentioned on the talk page for the article Talk:Bessora. This was also mentioned at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 3#Sandrine_Bessora_Nan_Nguema. This alternate name also appears in the --Big_iron (talk) 15:54, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It was complained about at OTRS - I cannot go into details. I can't stop you putting it back, but the complainant will probably escalate. I noted at the article page that there was the edit summary that said "The source is contradictory, and not mainly related to the topic + Any full name is not related to the notability of the subject + Presumption in favor of privacy (BLP)" when the full name was removed - hence the rationale for removing the redirect is the same reason. Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:13, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I am frankly not sure what was the motivation of the editor who inserted that remark but the source is not contradictory in any sense of the word. That editor resorted to the use of sock puppets in reverting the edit on the article so I backed off. I attempted to get an opinion on the BLP noticeboard on the subject but met with indifference. It isn't a big thing and I do not actually have any vested interest if it is felt that the redirect or the associated text is somehow inappropriate but I don't like to see things settled by dishonest means. Sorry, that's probably way too much time invested on this. I'll sleep on it, I guess. --Big_iron (talk) 22:34, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I asked for a second opinion on the OTRS noticeboard. --Big_iron (talk) 23:56, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

adavi kaachina vennela page deleted,please active will update corresponding references

adavi kaachina vennela page deleted,please active will update corresponding references,its authentic — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.205.5.227 (talk) 16:49, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 DoneRonhjones  (Talk) 20:18, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, would you please be able to restore the Hall Road Rangers F.C. logo at File:HallRoadRangers.png? A user replaced the logo with another version but they uploaded it on Commons (see here). That version has since been deleted, leaving no logo on the page. Cheers. Del♉sion23 (talk) 22:19, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid the same goes for File:Harrogate Town FC.png, File:EccleshillUnited.png, File:Whitbytownfc.png. The user on Commons has inadvertently led to the club articles no longer having logos. Del♉sion23 (talk) 22:27, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
File:Yorkfootballleague.jpg also fell victim to a user with a similar edit pattern on Commons. Cheers. Del♉sion23 (talk) 22:37, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Delusion23: All done Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:57, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much! :) Del♉sion23 (talk) 20:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 25 February 2015

The Signpost: 25 February 2015

Wicked Charms

I put back the release date of June 23, 2015. I did put a reference that was from Amazon, a reliable source. The release date for this book was supposed to be next week, but it was changed sometime in January.

If you read the Evanovich newsletters, the date changed was announced in both the February and March editions. 03:07, 2 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.58.164.84 (talk)

Not sure which article you are talking about - however, you certainly won't get anyone agreeing that Amazon is a reliable source - they are not a peer reviewed publisher. Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:50, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Amazon was the first to report the change and they're very reliable. I also said it was announced in the author's February and March newsletters. 74.58.164.84 (talk) 01:58, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Amazon are not reliable in the Wikipedia sense. See WP:RS Ronhjones  (Talk) 02:04, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's actually "Amazon is not" and if it's not reliable, then why is used a source on here? 74.58.164.84 (talk) 03:22, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ticket 2015010710020391

Hi at Draft:Victor Pierpont Morris there is a claimed OTRS ticket 2015010710020391 with permission confirmed by you (I suspect that Ron Jones is the same person as you!) But is this true, and if so what is permitted? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:53, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Graeme Bartlett: That ticket only refers to File:Victor Pierpont Morris, NCC Interim President.jpg - it was deleted in Dec, and Twinkle commented out it's use (hence my single edit to that page), then it was re-uploaded with OTRS pending in January, and permission eventually received at end Feb. Looks like the uploader did not get round to putting it back into the article. Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:43, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:53, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Wikipedia Article

I need your help please :) When I search for Ndidi Okonkwo Nwuneli on Google, it shows up as a "User:Ndidi Okonkwo Nwuneli". When you click it, it takes you to a message that says that the page was moved to "Draft: Ndidi Okonkwo Nwuneli." When you click that, it takes you to another page called "Creating Draft: Ndidi Okonkwo Nwuneli."

I'm not sure what to do here. It's not supposed to have "User" attached to it. Can we remove the "user" from the article so it shows up as just Ndidi Okonkwo Nwuneli? How does that all work?

Please reply on my talk page

Thanks, Leapsandbounds (talk) 09:39, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Replied Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:43, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
     Thank you for the information. I appreciate it. Ronhjones  (Talk)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leapsandbounds (talk • contribs) 10:59, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and Oversight/2015 CUOS appointments

Please note the nominations have been posted, and there are standard questions to be answered. Members of the community may also ask questions, so please monitor your nomination(s) until the comment period is concluded on the 18th. Those who are running for both flags have two sections, and two copies of the standard questions -- the first two, at least, are likely to have different answers, so this isn't redundant. (The third one, well, it does.) Thanks for your willingness to serve. Courcelles (talk) 06:34, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

An image deletion

Ron, your decision to delete an image is currently being discussed at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Deletion of Wikipedia screenshots used in talk pages Oiyarbepsy (talk) 15:19, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of File:Screenshot illustrating formatting of block quotes on Wikipedia formatted for mobile phones.jpg. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 15:42, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Image deletion

Hi Ronhjones,

the image I uploaded was deleted, including File:Location of the Yinggehai Basin.png, File:Sedimentation rate of the Yinggehai Basin.png and File:NW-SE cross section of Yinggehai Basin.png. Those pictures were drawn by myself or modified from others. Could you tell my why they were deleted so that I can modify them to be qualified. I will use these images in a wiki page, which is an assignment for a class I attend. Thank you for your response! Hongcheng Guo (talk) 04:19, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Hongcheng Guo: They were all marked as "no source". Wikipedia is getting quite strict with all the images that get loaded (and in some categories >50% should not have been uploaded!). It's best to use {{Information}} and fill in all the fields - use {{own}} in the source field for things you drew yourself. I'll restore those three and add those templates - please tidy up the rest of the page Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:19, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ThanksHongcheng Guo (talk) 20:21, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 04 March 2015

When you get the time...inactive Users

Gooday Ron - have I seen previously, or otherwise do you know, if there have been/are any developments for flagging-up inactive Users? Have I seen this on your talk page (I think I've seen it but unsure where...maybe Re. membership lists of Projects?). Unsure how to search for this info. Thx, Steve.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 17:11, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There was a bit - it's at User_talk:Ronhjones/Archive_27#Please_explain - maybe talk to User:Technical 13 Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:06, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, that was it - well-sleuthed as one User opined; your comment "When the encyclopaedia is finished - LOL. Answer never. I agree it not a high priority, but at the end of the day these talk pages with 500 substituted Willy Wonker's Newsletters, do take up some server space, so it does makes sense to think about sorting this out for the future of Wikipedia - 23 million named accounts - how many talk pages are growing weekly on long gone people? It will only get worse, if we don't lay some foundation now. Ronhjones (Talk) 02:43, 3 January 2015 (UTC)" is the bit I recalled. I have on occasion sent messages to talk pages on the offchance they will stop by.

I've known about this absence since June 2013 (on my watchlist before then), but the 'absent' top template message and The Herald continuation is poignant.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 21:20, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User:Zurich00swiss

OK, you're an admin. Hi! May I request you to consider blocking Zurich00swiss for good. This account had really no significant contribution whatsoever, and had only committed vandalism reverted by many editors. This person is back after a 48-hour block and redid some of the same edits. Please consider that Zurich00swiss had wiped "clean" his talk page many times and often switched to User:151.29.252.8 after warnings. Even my user page was vandalized twice. And he's been back for more today (Friday, March 6). HkCaGu (talk) 06:44, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FYI: Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. I raised it before seeing this conversation. RichardOSmith (talk) 13:25, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@HkCaGu and RichardOSmith: Already indefnite block - and since he chose to abuse the blocking admin, I've revoked his talk page access as well. However it does strike me as one who will not go away so easily - do watch out for socks. Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:31, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Image Deletion - Permission Question

You tagged our page Puget Sound Senior Baseball League regarding permission to use the copyrighted logo. As president of the organization which created and owns the logo, I followed your instructions and sent an email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. I used a template you suggested and also added OTRS Pending to the image file (hopefully in the right place). Being very new to all this, I tried to follow through correctly. If you have a moment, could you check? Thank you.

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