Talk:Dark Enlightenment

Enlightenment

May want to add some comparisons to the original Enlightenment and what features of that which DE advocates reject. For example, some of Hoppe's fundamentals:

"the natural equality of all men; the view that all legitimate political power must be "representative" and based on the consent of the people; and a liberal interpretation of law which leaves people free to do whatever the law does not explicitly forbid"

I believe they reject at least those three principles. Especially the first.

J1812 (talk) 10:07, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Does this warrant an article?

Probably should be in the "21st century" section of Reactionary. Else more should be pulled out of there to here, with that as a short summary and this as the main article - David Gerard (talk) 16:10, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is a specific subset of neo-reactionaries that has garnered some considerable coverage in journals and newspapers. It is also the topic of a lot of discussion in the blogosphere, although that mostly does not meet WP:RS. My gut says it warrants a stand alone article, however if there is going to be a merger I would say that it should have its own subjection under 21st Century. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:28, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Subset? It's much of a muchness as far as I can tell (from following them with some amusement, rather than with anything like a Wikipedia-quality RS) - "neoreaction" and "dark enlightement" seem approximately interchangeable in the sphere itself, though tending to the former. YMMV I suppose. Let's see how it goes as a separate article - David Gerard (talk) 20:24, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've put "neoreactionary" as a bold header here and redirected the relevant topics here. The paragraph in reactionary should largely be shifted here and a better summary written for that article section - David Gerard (talk) 14:07, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Conservatism category

I don't think having the "Conservatism" series is appropriate. Is there any reliable source putting this in the conservative movement or worldview more than any other?73.172.99.131 (talk) 05:12, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think that reactionary political view are generally considered a subset of the broader notion of conservatism. Certainly classical Toryism (monarchism) is so regarded in Britain and most of Europe. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:32, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If there were a separate "reactionary" subcategory of conservatism, this would definitely go there. Do we have enough for such a subcat? - David Gerard (talk) 11:59, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think we are getting pretty close. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:57, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Radical Traditionalism

Radical traditionalism seems to be a perfect fit here for the "See also" section. Any disagreements? 2601:A:6200:AAC:190F:99B4:7633:28C1 (talk) 04:27, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's good for See Also. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:56, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]