Talk:Grace (meals)

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The "mealtime prayers" external link is great! Thanks. ~citizenDAK

Thanking "God" vs. "a deity"

Every example given in the article where thanking "a deity" is given, that deity is called God. Even the Bahai, etc. If atheists wish to wash down the meaning they ought to scrub the examples too in order to fully distort the issue. "Grace", in all examples shown, gives thanks to a primary deity, aka "God". If editors wish to distort the definition they ought come up with more out of the main stream examples and attempt to pass them off as mainstream, just as the re-defining of what most everyone refers to as "God" into a redefinition of "a deity" does. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.254.40.235 (talk) 04:03, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Christian POV

This article purports to be about Grace per se, yet deals only with Christianity. The article is also quite messy and unencyclopedic. --Dweller 14:24, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Further to the recent edit, Grace (referring to the prayer) is an English, not a Christian word. The concept exists in many religions, some of which substantially predate Christianity. --Dweller 09:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And how about: "For what we are about to receive, may the lord make us truly grateful. Amen."? -MrBob

The English word "grace" has the same etymology (ultimately from Latin) as the word "grateful" i.e. it is simply a prayer of thanksgiving before or after a meal. The practice of saying a prayer of thanks or blessing is not a specifically Christian one (Judaism being an obvious example). Christians tend to use the word "grace" to describe this type of prayer. Readywriter 23:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

LIST I came to this article looking for a list of different Grace Prayers that could be said at mealtime. I found no such list nor any link referring me to such a list. I care not at all what the POV of this article is nor do I care which gods are invoked by such a Grace (Prayers). What I would like to see is a complete list of different Graces for private, public, formal, informal, and other dining listed by the type of dining, so that I commit no social faux pas. If the topic here were Toasts, would we be concerned about theology? I hope you take my point. Rujmal

Eb theDoc: About the Lutheran Introitus and Dimittis translations:

We have used -

Komm Herr Jesus, sei unser Gast, Und segne, was Du uns bescheret hast.

Join us, guest us, Dear Lord Jesus; Bless what You've bestowed upon us.

before, a meal, and -

Danket dem Herrn, denn Er ist freundlich, Und Seine Güte währet ewiglich.

Thank the Lord for His benevolence And may His Good e'er guide us hence.

after.

For American guests of our German-speaking family, these seem to convey rhythm, meaning, rhyme (and Holperigkeit - German for disrhythmic verse) native to the Lutheran originals. Crossing yourself might be customary in predominately Catholic regions, but we'd fold our hands for prayer and join hands for the prayer before leaving the table. Eb

Purple Prose

Some people who have been given God's grace have stated that the knowledge imparted to them says that God has made everything here on this Earth, and there is a part of God in all things (including all living plants and animals). He has also given dominion of everything worldly to Man to act as the Good Shepherd. For his existence and sustenance Man requires the killing and eating of these living plants and/or animals (which God has made for Man and given him dominion over), and as such Man must give thanks to God for the sacrifice of these living things so that Man can exist and survive. According to some Man must give thanks to God for the sacrifices of other living things so that Man can exist, and this thanks is the "saying of Grace" prior to and/or after eating of any meal.

What the ...? This kind of flourishing writing looks like something taken straight out of a catechism textbook. Anyone got a problem with me removing it, or at least replacing it with a more concise, less presumptuous write?--SohanDsouza (talk) 11:54, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - utter bilge, and we are well rid of it. Springnuts (talk) 21:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Crossing oneself?

Is it common to cross oneself at the end of grace? I know some Catholics (American) who do. The article only mentions the sign of the cross in the context of Eastern Orthodox practice, but these folks all cross themselves, not just the one saying grace, although only the one saying grace says the words that go with it. They also do silent grace when the Quaker branch of the family is present, sometimes omitting the Catholic grace entirely. BookishAcolyte (talk) 19:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mealtime–Prayer

Latina:
Nos oremus! Benedic, Domine, nos et hæc Tua dona,
quæ de Tua largitate sumus sumpturi…
Per Christum, Dominum nostrum! Amen.

English:
Let us pray! Bless us, O Lord, and these, Thy gifts,
which we are about to receive from Thy bounty…
Through Christ, our Lord! Amen.

Deutsch:
Lass’t uns beten! Segne uns, o Herr, und diese deine Gaben,
die wir von deiner Güte nun empfangen werden…
Durch Christus/Christum, unseren Herr'n! Amen.

Svenska:
Låtom oss bedja! Välsigna oss, o Herre, och dessa dina gåvor,
som vi mottaga av din milda godhet…
Genom Christus, vår Herre! Amen.

AD vs. CE

I can understand that in some cases CE is more appropriate but in an article about prayer mabey AD would be less ambiguous as to who's common era. ~DoubleA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.239.224.88 (talk) 05:42, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]