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A fact from Charlie Brown and Franz Stigler incident appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 May 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that during World War II, a Luftwaffe pilot, observing that there were several wounded crewmen on a United States Army Air Corps's plane, declined to fire and safely escorted it to the North Sea?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2011/May.

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This article is a fine example of the weaknesses of article rating. As of today, it was the [[Special:ArticleFeedback|4th-highest-rated article] with 10+ ratings in the past day, despite being a slightly POV stub that follows few of our style guidelines, with few details or sources. Particularly interesting is that it gets a completeness rating of over 3 stars... possibly people who really like [or dislike] article themes are rating them 5- [or 1-] stars across the board?

This is a heartwarming story, and could be part of a great article with more information and better sourcing, but its rating suggests it is of comparable quality to, for example, Call of Duty: Black Ops. In contrast, something like the wikiproject system would rate this article stub-class and the Black Ops article at least B-class (a rating it has had since November). – SJ + 06:41, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Attempted to update the article's tone and style inline with MoS.Londonclanger (talk) 11:43, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Medical Attention

"Stigler tried to get Brown to land his plane at a German base and surrender, but Brown refused because his wounded comrades were in urgent need of medical assistance."

I know this is what the source (an obit) reports, but if he had landed in Germany, based on historical treatment of downed fliers, I believe all his crew would have been given quick medical treatment. Since the source says otherwise, I guess the text stays? What's the policy here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.228.235 (talk) 23:26, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It was situational at best. Depending on how close to the attacked point the airbase was, would mean that a pilot downed in that area (or forced to land) might end up killed by the Gestapo, or thrown into a concentration camp. It didn't always happen, but pilots and crews had heard horror stories being filtered back from some pilots who had managed to escape capture.

This Article Needs HUGE Cleanup

It's written like someone trying to write a movie script with way too much romantic prose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.134.73.168 (talk) 11:53, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

spelling error

Twice, Stigler tried to get Brown to land his plane at a German airfield and surrender, or divert to nearby neutral Sweden, where he and his crew would receive medical treatment but be interred and sit out the remainder of the war. Brown refused and flew on. Stigler then flew near Brown's plane, escorting it until they reached the North Sea and departing with a salute.[4]

should be "interned"— Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.104.71 (talk • contribs) 12:11, 17 June 2013‎

Done - This was already fixed when I took a look today. --Marc Kupper|talk 00:49, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional depiction of Brown-Stigler Incident

The story was dramatized on NCIS in the 11th season under the title Better Angels, portrayed as happening to Jackson Gibbs, lead character Jethro Gibbs' father. It was the last appearance of Ralph Waite on the show after a run of 5 years playing Gibbs' father. CorlyssD (talk) 22:25, 25 June 2014 (UTC) Corlyssd 6/25/14[reply]