Talk:Celtic Phoenix

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NPOV

Just a light-touch reminder on the WP:NPOV guidelines - as they relate to ensuring that any "positions" on a subject are fair and represented without bias. I note this as I had made some additions to highlight the existence of "other" opinions on the Celtic Phoenix concept. My additions were (IMO) quite "light" relative to WP:UNDUE guidelines. I'm sure it was just an oversight, but my additions were removed, and replaced with "balancing" statements from government sources instead. I have put these back. Other thoughts are obviously welcome, but I wouldn't have thought we should ONLY be representing a government "line" on this subject - as per the related guideline on relying on single or limited sources. Guliolopez (talk) 13:04, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge or delete?

Right now, this article is pretty much one person's slant on the so-called "Celtic Phoenix" (a rarely used term) that's better covered elsewhere (with additions from Guliolopez that the OP tried to remove). As the term is a neologism and as the Irish economic recovery-of-sorts is better covered elsewhere, I would be happy for either my deletion proposal or Aronzak's merge proposal to go ahead. Unfortunately, DylanMcKaneWiki and his various IP's seem unwilling to engage on any talk page. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 14:11, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per WP:COATRACK. AfD is a better process than PROD with some of these things that have possible controversy. It's better to merge to large articles to let the quality improve, and then only split out if there is extensive coverage that necessitates a split for readability (see WP:LENGTH). WP:NEO means that the word can be covered in a single line as part of discussion of the recovery. -- Aronzak (talk) 14:23, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I do not want you to delete this page as I created it and people have come along to add more information on. The page still needs more information as it is a new page. I would like if you contribute to the page by helping to expand it rather than delete it. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.107.198.251 (talk) 23:47, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But, as was pointed out above, does it needs its own page, if the topic can be covered thoroughly in another article? —C.Fred (talk) 00:12, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Celtic Phoenix page covers more information on Irish economic growth than any other page or article. There are more references as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DylanMcKaneWiki (talk • contribs) 00:46, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you're finally engaging on a Talk page, DylanMcKaneWiki, rather than just ignoring everyone else. That's progress. Can you please sign your posts using four tildes (~~~~? And make sure to log in when you're editing - are you also the IPs 93.107.198.251 and‎ 109.79.25.190?

"I do not want you to delete this page as I created it" - that's called WP:OWN and isn't allowed, for obvious reasons. The question you have to ask is, is the topic "Celtic Phoenix" (which is itself a rarely used neologism, also not allowed!) covered better by itself; or would Ireland's economic recovery be better covered as a section within another article (such as the proposed Economy of the Republic of Ireland. The latter has dozens of contributors, rather than the handful of people who've stumbled across this article (some of whom, it has to be said, followed you here because of your troublesome editing history (did you not see the multiple requests to not do any more page moves?)).

Please remember that Wikipedia is a collaborative work. You have to work with other editors, rather than just reverting things like merge templates; and you need to work within Wikipedia's policies. Regards, Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 09:44, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do not delete or merge Celtic Phoenix page !!

Celtic Phoenix has more information on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DylanMcKaneWiki (talk • contribs) 13:24, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]