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Hello Kethrus!

I am currently writing an article for my client Spark and am having a hard time finding reliable sources because most sources are not based off any database or "reliable" website. Any help?

Best regards! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SparkOfficial (talk • contribs) 02:55, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@SparkOfficial: Quoted from WP:42: We need sources that are independent. Not: articles written by the topic, paid for by the topic, their website, or press releases. We want readers to be able to verify that Wikipedia articles are not just made up. So, please add footnotes to your article. If independent sources are not available - Spark is unfortunately not eligible for a Wikipedia article. Taking a look at WP:42 will explain this to you. Sorry! --  Kethrus |talk to me  03:00, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I have been through the submission process a number of times. I have asked for help and different editors have told me different things, and one even helped make some changes before the draft was rejected.

What specifically do I need to change in order for the draft to be accepted?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.79.8.126 (talk) 16:44, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@67.79.8.126: I rejected it due to the lack of references. Both the references appear to be interviews and aren't entirely independent. --  Kethrus |talk to me  17:17, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Kethrus! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission. I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.

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You reverted in this edit with no edit summary. That edit removed references. Could you please explain? Many thanks. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:59, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Anna Frodesiak: I reverted that edit because the link that was changed didn't exist. Please note I was not assuming bad faith (hence the no edit summary/warning). --  Kethrus |talk to me  01:02, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I understand. If you are referring to the Kingston link, then it is best to examine it and decide what to do with it. Being a redlink doesn't mean removing it. It could mean an article yet to be created, and that is okay. In this case, it was a space needed after the comma to make it blue. Also, your revert removed references. Finally, and edit summary either way is a good idea. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:09, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Anna Frodesiak: I didn't notice that, thank you for bringing it to my attention. --  Kethrus |talk to me  01:11, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No worries at all, my friend. Happy editing. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:13, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In future, please really, really, really try to inspect your edits and use edit summaries. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:16, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Anna Frodesiak: I checked that page and I was under the impression I was correct in doing that. At least that's what I got from the article saying AM as in After Malik. --  Kethrus |talk to me  01:18, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, seems I was wrong - I wasn't aware there was previous vandalism on that page which affected my editing. My mistake, sorry. --  Kethrus |talk to me  01:22, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No worries again. :) An edit summary like "under the impression that the article is saying AM as in After Malik" helps others know of your intention. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:24, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

reliable source other than companies own website

Dear Kethrus, thanks for the help. I have read the article on valid references and now I am aware of it now. Please note for the product in my article is the first release of the company so that I can’t find any references other to their official web. So here how can I prove the company's website as a reliable source to show the notability? Coy Tinker (talk) 08:16, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Coy Tinker: If that is the case it would appear they're not notable per WP:GNG, therefore cannot have an article. It would be helpful if you linked the article and read the top of my talk page, as I cannot give you a better response. --  Kethrus |talk to me  19:46, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

15:57:35, 24 September 2015 review of submission by 67.79.8.126


Oh ok, so the references are not suitable. If I remove them completely, will I be able to get the draft accepted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.79.8.126 (talk • contribs)

@67.79.8.126: No, more references are needed. --  Kethrus |talk to me  19:44, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Void Linux

I fixed the cut and paste move. I did not undelete the revision with your speedy deletion tagging after the move, but I think it is no longer necessary. Best wishes, —Kusma (t·c) 16:08, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 00:26:25, 25 September 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Yoku shaw taylor


REFERENCES FOR THE PAPER The article has 16 REFERENCES, all of which are RELIABLE and VERIABLE - they are books, journals, reports and General History Volumes. This paper was well-researched

Yoku shaw taylor (talk) 00:26, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoku shaw taylor: It's improperly referenced. The references are external links, not inline citations. Please see Referencing for beginners, using a gadget like Proveit will help you do this. Please note no wiki is a valid reference, not even wikipedia (see WP:WPNOTRS). There are also multiple formatting issues with the article which will prevent it from being approved (see WP:MOS). --  Kethrus |talk to me  00:29, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Need to reinstate lost Wikipedia page "WISE 0535-7500".

This Wikipedia page used to exist, but was replaced by a redirect. I need to cancel the redirect and bring the original page back so that I can edit it. But I can't find the original page, all I can find is a translation of an earlier version of the original page into Chinese. https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/WISE_0535-7500 The Chinese version is lacking at least one line of text that used to be in the English version.

The lost English version may be hidden under a synonym, possibly "WISE J053516.80-750024.9" or "WISE J0535-7500".

Please help with finding (or reconstructing by back-translation) the original English version of the this webpage. Mollwollfumble (talk) 01:31, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

It appears this article was moved because it didn't meet Wikipedia:Notability (astronomical objects). I suggest creating a draft and submitting it for review if you believe it now meets the notability guideline. -- Kethrus |talk to me 01:47, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
I suspected as much. But this astronomical object has a parallax of 250, meaning that is exceedingly near, and new research gives its distance as 13.0 light years, which puts it slap bang in the middle of "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nearest_stars_and_brown_dwarfs", at position 31 unless other objects have wrong distances in that list. Every one of the astronomical objects on the List_of_nearest_stars_and_brown_dwarfs has its own Wikipedia article. It is also closer than at least eight other brown dwarfs that do each have Wikipedia articles of their own. In fact it's the only one of Marsh (2012)'s 11 Y and T dwarfs that doesn't have it's own Wikipedia article. Even worse, the link to this Brown Dwarf from the page to which it's redirected directs back to its redirection, giving a closed loop. The "WISE 0535-7500" Wikipedia page should never have been removed in the first place. I do not wish to create a new article from scratch where 90% of it ought to already exist in some archive. I do not wish to "submit it for review". I wish to edit it. Please bring it back immediately, or at least let me know that it has been permanently destroyed, in which case I will start from the Chinese translation. Mollwollfumble (talk) 09:16, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Mollwollfumble: Are you looking for this? —Kusma (t·c) 12:43, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 12:01:57, 25 September 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Yoku shaw taylor

REVISIONS

I have taken out all the external links in the paper -they are not needed. There were there because I didn't want to create an "orphan" article. The paper is appropriately referenced now - if you look at the REFERENCES list.

Please let me know that you have seen the changes and are reviewing the paper as needed.

I have not received any feedback for 12 hours now.

Thanks,

Yoku shaw taylor (talk) 12:01, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yoku shaw taylor (talk) 12:01, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 13:30:19, 25 September 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Yoku shaw taylor


UPDATES


Please let me know the status of my submission. Please note that the article is appropriately and verifiably REFERENCED - changes were made September 24.

I am awaiting your response.

Thanks,

Yoku shaw taylor (talk) 13:30, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yoku shaw taylor (talk) 13:30, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

15:21:48, 25 September 2015 review of submission by 67.79.8.126

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