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Serratia marcescens over the city of San Francisco

I have reason to doubt the accuracy the sources that state only serratia marcescens was used as most of the primary documents state that Bacillus globigii (Agent BG) and Florescent Particles (FP) were used in this test. The primary docs are not gospel but they go into great detail explaining why BG was used and the permission from civil authorities was not requested follow up never done.page US Project Deseret in Canadian Archives with references pp. 276-282Johnvr4 (talk) 21:57, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

St. Louis Tests

The US Army released a potentially dangerous fluorescent powder into the air of St. Louis. [1] 216.146.231.6 (talk) 10:37, 8 October 2015 (UTC)Dave[reply]

Proposal to include the current status on mind reading and human body control

I propose to include the following updates at the end of section "U.S. government research" of chapter "Psychological and torture experiments".

Noam Chomsky identified ten media manipulation strategies[1]. The last strategy on his list is called "Getting to know the individuals better than they know themselves":

Over the past 50 years, advances of accelerated science has generated a growing gap between public knowledge and those owned and operated by dominant elites. Thanks to biology, neurobiology and applied psychology, the system has enjoyed a sophisticated understanding of human beings, both physically and psychologically. The system has gotten better acquainted with the common man more than he knows himself. This means that, in most cases, the system exerts greater control and great power over individuals, greater than that of individuals about themselves.[1]

Bogdan Alexandru Caprarescu published a document called "The Secret Organized Crime" in which he accuses an international criminal organization composed of the Central Intelligence Agency, the Romanian Intelligence Service (SRI), and presumably other secret services of many crimes including mind reading and human body control. Caprarescu witnesses that CIA and SRI read the thoughts of people and recorded the thoughts of people at least from 1996 to the present. Caprarescu witnesses that CIA and SRI control the following systems of the human body: nervous, cardiovascular, respiratory, gastrointestinal, and urogenital.[2][3]

Caprasescu's theory does not seem to be coming from a reliable source, and I can't find any RS that back it up. So this theory shouldn't appear anywhere on Wikipedia unless reliable sources can be found supporting it (doubtful). Chomsky's theory, on the other hand, might be valid on the article "propaganda" or something, but not here (it's not about medical experiments). -- Jrtayloriv (talk) 18:52, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"In the United States"

The article references events that took place in Guatemala, which is not in the United States. Amnion (talk) 00:34, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That is a good point. Actually its not clear what many of these things have to do with one another, why should independent physicians testing surgical techniques in the 1840s be discussed alongside CIA mind control experiments in the 1950s? This article is pretty much WP:SYNTH.AioftheStorm (talk) 03:37, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps the title of the entry should be changed to ...sponsored by the United States Government to more accurately describe the subject.Johnvr4 (talk) 14:19, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Department of Defense and Veterans Affairs related court cases and rulings

Courts Rule for Veterans in Chemical Exposure Cases (July 06, 2015). Johnvr4 (talk) 12:23, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ a b Chomsky, Noam. "Top 10 media manipulation strategies". Retrieved 8 February 2014.
  2. ^ Caprarescu, Bogdan Alexandru. "The Secret Organized Crime" (PDF). Retrieved 29 January 2014.
  3. ^ Caprarescu, Bogdan Alexandru. "Standing for Human Rights and Justice". Retrieved 29 January 2014.