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Hi Wia, See your email. Cheers Supdiop (T🔹C) 02:58, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Supdiop: Got it, thanks. I just replied a few hours ago. /wia /talk 03:25, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

hii

Swimming and Sky diving Walter Ascent (talk) 16:12, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Walter Ascent: I'm not sure I know what this is referring to, sorry! /wia /talk 16:15, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

thank you

Hus1234 (talk) 14:53, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

myself

Ka Kabbirul miah (talk) 17:35, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You got Hyderabadi biryani from Supdiop

Hyderabadi biryani
I see why huggle is better. You gave me edit conflict like 15 times yesterday while reverting vandalism. Supdiop (T🔹C) 02:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Supdiop: Yum, thank you for the biryani! Huggle is super-fast, isn't it? /wia /tlk /cntrb 02:06, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikiisawesome: Yes, it is. Supdiop (T🔹C) 12:55, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 10:11:20, 19 October 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Lewiswhaley


I do not have any way to provide the subject's notability according to Wikipedia rules. Do I need to delete all reference to Giant Wholesale Grocery Corporation on Wikipedia? Lewiswhaley (talk) 10:11, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Lewiswhaley: I took a quick look for references myself and it seems that this grocer is lacking in reliable sources. That means it does not currently meet Wikipedia's corporate notability standards. But you don't have to delete the article or references to the grocer in other articles. It's a draft and others are welcome to work on it if they can find sourcing. After 6 months of inactivity, the article may be deleted. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks, /wia /tlk /cntrb 12:18, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:International Project Management Association (IPMA)

Hi, I hope I am doing doing it right. first time user, still learning. I am writing in reference to the rejected draft article on International Project Management Association (IPMA) . I believe I understand the reference issue. I am collecting as many reference as possible. it is more challenging as expected as IPMA is a non profit organisation and most of the source (even the standards) are free and downloadable from their website itself. The fact that IPMA is constituted by member association across the world, if I cross reference them as reference in the article, would that be sufficient? Any other advices are welcomed. Many thanks. Cznal (talk) 18:27, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Cznal: Hi, and thanks for inquiring here. You're most definitely welcome to use references found on the Web in your article (Draft:International Project Management Association (IPMA)). However, Wikipedia articles need references in order to be notable, and the types of references required to show notability are those that are reliable, independent, and sources that offer significant coverage of the subject. A good place to look is in reputable newspapers or journals. For instance, if the Guardian or the New York Times has articles discussing the IPMA, that would go a long way. Referencing member associations can help substantiate individual claims in the article, but for notability purposes you will need references with substantive content, not just passing mention of the subject.
Let me know if you need any further guidance! Thanks, /wia /tlk /cntrb 18:31, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cont. Draft:Spireon

Hi Wikiisawesome! Thank you for your helpful commentary. I was wondering if you might find these sources notable then?

1) http://www.ccjdigital.com/power-on-trailer-tracking-systems-are-beating-the-odds/ It's not a press release, but a journalist wrote about Spireon in a journal called Commercial Carrier Journal.

2) http://www.ocregister.com/articles/meade-509489-company-based.html I can use this to reference the location of Spireon in Irvine, CA?

3) http://www.cutimes.com/2014/05/02/piloting-service-to-subprime-borrowers I can use this to say that Spireon does loan servicing solutions.

--Lambao.truong (talk) 17:32, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Lambao.truong: Hi, I took a look at these references and they are better than the current ones in terms of reliability, as it appears that all three sites have some sort of editorial board policy. However, they don't have a lot of content, and I'm not quite convinced that they have enough content about the company to demonstrate notability. I'd suggest adding those sources, looking around for more content that discusses Spireon in depth, and resubmitting. Another reviewer will be along in the coming days with a fresh pair of eyes to accept the article or to guide you further. Keep in mind that the article Spireon has been deleted before, so you will need to overcome the hurdles mentioned in the previous deletion discussion with respect to sourcing. Thanks, /wia /tlk /cntrb 22:13, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 21:39:58, 20 October 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Aeroid


Thank you for the review. Bocșa mentions ' Deutsch-Bokschan, Neuwerk' as the German name, Icebreakers of Germany has a redlink for a vessel under that name. And an extended search in enwiki shows most of the other Neuwerk's of this list. I have only selected those that show up in Wikidata or a causing common issues like in the current VIAF entry for Neuwerk (G). Additonally I translated Great Tower Neuwerk from German. Please reconsider and let me know if there is anything else missing. --Aeroid (talk) 21:39, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Aeroid (talk) 21:39, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Aeroid: Hi, as you can see I've gone ahead and accepted the page now that there are multiple articles it can point to. Also thank you for your translation of Great Tower Neuwerk from the German; greatly appreciated! /wia /tlk /cntrb 22:05, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Some stroopwafels for you!

For being... well... awesome! Keep up the good work! GABHello! 23:19, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! I like a good stroopwafel for an evening snack! /wia /tlk /cntrb 23:23, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reference errors on 20 October

Hello, I'm ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that an edit performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. It is as follows:

Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, ReferenceBot (talk) 00:38, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Done /wia /tlk /cntrb 00:41, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 02:16:34, 21 October 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Rwasson99


I am trying to figure out what else I need to do to get my page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:USA_Masters_Diving approved. As far as notability we are similar in scope to US Masters Swimming which already has a wiki page. I believe I have referenced our page in a similar manner, but I could be wrong. (We are not the same organization as our rules and meets are for the most part separate from each other). Most of my information comes from historical documentation which unfortunately is on our site (mastersdiving.org). I apologize for the trouble, but I am trying to do this right.

Thank you for your time and consideration,

Rich

Rwasson99 (talk) 02:16, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Rwasson99: Hi, thanks for inquiring here; it's no trouble. In general, you need to find reliable, independent (third-party) sources that discuss the subject in significant detail in order to show notability. While primary sources like the USA Masters Diving website do contain some information, it is by the organization and thus doesn't offer objectively independent content about the organization. That's why we require that articles rely on third-party sources that have in-depth coverage of the organization. I took a look through the references that have been added; some of them are just lists of upcoming competitions, which don't say anything about USA Masters Diving. Don't get me wrong—those types of references can be useful for content later on, but they don't demonstrate notability, which has to be shown in order for an article to be accepted.
I see that you've resubmitted the draft, so while you wait for another reviewer to take a look in the coming days, keep looking for reputable sources to add. Journals, magazines and newspapers are a good place to look. If you have further questions, you're also welcome to ask at the Articles for Creation Help Desk. Thanks, /wia /tlk /cntrb 16:49, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

17:18:41, 21 October 2015 review of submission by Mjavajunky73


I have never even been to the poetry website you claim I am copyrighting from...not sure how my article got declined. Can you tell me what exact phrase you take issue with? (Mjavajunky73 (talk) 17:18, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mjavajunk73: The paragraph entitled "Luxembourg Income Study Center at CUNY" has been copied both from the link provided on the draft and from this site. Search the phrase "research, development, and administrative satellite", a portion of the copied material, to confirm this. Thanks, /wia /tlk /cntrb 17:38, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 17:20:15, 21 October 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Mjavajunky73


My article was declined because the reviewer claimed I copyrighted material from a poetry website I have never visited and a poet I know nothing about.  How do I request my article be re-reviewed? Mjavajunky73 (talk) 17:20, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Mjavajunky73 (talk) 17:20, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mjavajunky73: Did you mean to post this on the Articles for Creation Help Desk? /wia /tlk /cntrb 17:39, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

23:28:08, 21 October 2015 review of submission by Nrhewa


Hi thanks for taking the time to review my article. I have rewritten the section on pharmaceuticals and was wondering if you'd have time to take a second look. I'm mainly worried about the list of products they manufacture because it is still a pretty straight copy from the company website. Do you have any suggestions on how things like product lists can be rewritten to conform to guidelines? Nrhewa (talk) 23:28, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Nrhewa: Hi, thanks for inquiring here. I took another look for copyright issues and everything except the list of products, as you mentioned, seems to have been taken care of. One way you could rephrase it is "Lina manufactures a variety of sprays, drops and syrups" or something to that effect, followed by a citation to the source. That informs the reader of the products without having to list them verbatim. /wia /tlk /cntrb 03:07, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

01:34:58, 22 October 2015 review of submission by DeutscheJacob


Hello, I was wandering why the Star Wars Wikia is not reliable. Just like Wikipedia, users are required to cite information and even when an edit is made, it is usually checked over and/or revised. I also added more sources besides that Wikia. Give it a look over?

@JLanzer: Hi, thanks for inquiring here. Wikis like Wikia are not considered reliable sources because anyone can edit them. You're allowed to use the reference cited in a Wikia article, provided that those references are themselves reliable sources, but the text in a Wikia article is not generally considered reliable. You can read about this policy at WP:USERG. I've excerpted a bit of it here:
I usually don't review articles more than once in the interests of fairness. I see you've resubmitted it and another reviewer should be along in the coming days for another look. I'm looking forward to the movie myself! /wia /tlk /cntrb 02:00, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of tea for you!

With this ever dramatic world including WikiDrama, here's a cup of tea to alleviate your day! This e-tea's remains have been e-composted SwisterTwister talk 06:49, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! This is just what I needed to wake myself up this morning. /wia /tlk /cntrb 11:47, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 09:27:04, 22 October 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by IMilligan15


Hi, the material that you claim is copyrighted is actually in reverse; that website has taken the copy from the fund that I am trying to create the page about - please can you reverse your deletion?

IMilligan15 (talk) 09:27, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@IMilligan15: Hi, thanks for asking! Only administrators can restore deleted articles, and I'm unfortunately I'm not an administrator. To find out the administrator who deleted the article, just type in the exact name of your draft in the search bar, including any prefix (like Draft: or User:, if there was one). You should see a red box at the top of the screen that indicates which administrator deleted the article. You can ask them on their talk page.
If the deletion was due to copyright issues, you probably won't be able to get the draft restored, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Thanks, /wia /tlk /cntrb 11:43, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see that the draft was Draft:Dementia Discovery Fund and was deleted by User:NawlinWiki. Since it was deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, I don't think he or she will restore the content for you. You're welcome to ask at their talk page, of course, but I think the best course of action would be to start writing a new version of the article that doesn't violate Wikipedia's copyright policies. Thanks! /wia /tlk /cntrb 11:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My deleted article

Wia, I realize my article had some copyrighted material in it. I agree that I need to start completely over again. I just wanted to ask, is it OK for me to delete all the text/code on the same draft page and write the new article there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Novitas315 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Novitas315: Hi, I've nominated the article for speedy deletion. It should be blanked soon and then you can restart the article if you'd like. In the meantime, you can start the new version at User:Novitas315/sandbox. Ping me when you're satisfied with the article and I'll move it to the Draft space and re-review it. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask them here. Thanks, /wia /tlk /cntrb 14:09, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikiisawesome: Thanks Wia! I've just rewritten the article in my sand box. Could you please take a look? User:Novitas315/sandbox Novitas315 (talk) 15:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Novitas315: Sure, I'll take a look in an hour or two after I finish some off-wiki work. Thanks, /wia /tlk /cntrb 15:50, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikiisawesome: Thanks, I appreciate it! Novitas315 (talk) 15:56, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Novitas315: The copyright issue is almost solved, except for the last sentence in the "Caffe Primo" section—that still appears to be a duplicate of the content here. I wouldn't worry about the duplicate decline you got, since the first version will probably be deleted by an administrator soon. Just focus on finding more reliable, independent (third-party) sources that discuss the subject in significant detail. Some of the sources currently cited are from PR sources or newswires that aren't considered reliable sources. Thanks, /wia /tlk /cntrb 17:02, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikiisawesome:I'd like to submit the article again now, but I don't see an option to do so. Can you help me? Sorry I'm very new to Wikipedia and there is a lot I don't know.

@Novitas315: Okay, now it seems like there are two separate drafts on the go: Draft:PDC Capital Group and Draft:PDC Capital Group (2). You only need to work on one at a time. If you're happy with the draft, you can resubmit by adding {{subst:submit}} to your draft. I'd suggest working a bit more on the referencing first, however, as it seems like there still aren't enough reliable sources discussing the company. Thanks, /wia /tlk /cntrb 20:05, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikiisawesome: Right, I'm also trying to delete Draft:PDC Capital Group (2) how do I do that? About the sources, I suppose you are referring to the California Newswire site. I thought that was a reliable news source. I'm trying to find others, but having trouble doing so.
@Novitas315: If you'd like to delete Draft:PDC Capital Group (2), just add {{Db-g7}} to the draft. As for the sources, the California Newswire one looks okay, but I'm not sold on the Don Nay, Vimeo, Emilio Francisco or Iloveprimo sources. Some of them are primary sources that are too close to the subject to show notability, while others don't appear to be reliable sources of information. Let me know if you have any further questions! /wia /tlk /cntrb 20:17, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikiisawesome: Would you mind checking it out one more time? I think i got the reference problem fixed. Draft:PDC Capital Group Novitas315 (talk) 15:32, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Novitas315: Sure, no problem. I'll be away from my computer for a few hours but will have a look when I return. /wia /tlk /cntrb 15:36, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

19:33:15, 22 October 2015 review of submission by Jdxzhu



Thank you for your quick feedbacks, suggestions, and help. I have edited the article to make it neutral and I have rewritten the section about Xiao's involvement in Ang Lee's team. Please let me know what else that I need to do before I resubmit. This is my first wiki article. I still have a lot to learn. I appreciate your help. Thank you!!! jdxzhu 19:33, 22 October 2015 (UTC)jdxzhu

@Jdxzhu: Hi, thanks for inquiring here. I would suggest more citations in the Personal philosophy section; otherwise, it comes across as original research. I would also shrink the size of the pictures in the draft, as they are too large. It looks like the close paraphrasing issue has been taken care of. Other than that, keep working on the referencing and feel free to resubmit! I don't review articles twice in a row, but another reviewer should be along in a few days (or a bit more) in order to re-review the article. Thanks! /wia /tlk /cntrb 20:00, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

13:26:58, 23 October 2015 review of submission by 195.202.158.150


The ITTF is an independent Federation-they are not sponsored by the WSA or something like that. Why is an artiicle from them about the WSA not reliable? Also ORF is the Austrian Broadcaster- they wrote articles about us-what is the problem there??

Why do you think WSA is not notable? It is not just a company-it is one of the most important table tennis centers worldwide-respected in China where table tennis is the national sport and all around the world as well. Guests from all continents have practiced in the WSA over the last 5 years. 26 languages are spoken here permanently. So many table tennis players that have Wikipedia Articles are training in the Academy. I put links to their sites in the article.

On the german Wikipedia site-the WSA has an article since long ago!!! See here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Schlager_Academy

Hi, thanks for inquiring here. When I reviewed the draft, the ITTF references were not yet in the document, so I couldn't assess the article based on those references. You're always welcome to resubmit when you have addressed the concerns mentioned in the review!
Notability means something different on Wikipedia than it does in the dictionary. You can read about it at WP:N. The simplest way to put it is that we require that topics have received "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". There are also some special notability rules for organizations, federations and the like. When I reviewed the article, it only had one link—to a primary source that does not meet the notability rules I mentioned above. More references just might do the trick.
It's also worth noting that different language Wikipedias have different standards. The English and German Wikipedia standards on notability do not necessarily align, so topics on one site might not necessarily be suitable for the other.
If you have any other questions about Wikipedia, creating articles, or working on your draft, there are a few places you can ask. I'm happy to help however I can, the Teahouse is a great place for new editors, and the Articles for Creation Help Desk may also be of some use if you have specific draft-related questions. Thanks! /wia /tlk /cntrb 13:42, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

15:51:04, 23 October 2015 review of submission by Jdxzhu



Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it. I will keep on improving the article according to your advise. Have a nice weekend! jdxzhu 15:51, 23 October 2015 (UTC) jdxzhu

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