User talk:OSX
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Reverting images
Hi OSX,
It's Nim again
Could you tell me the reason why you needed to revert User:EurovisionNim's images. The images were only illustrating the Australian version of cars available. If you want to revert an image you need to tell why you reverted the images. I am not upset in fact I have most of it removed. It can be slightly annoying when you don't put into the edit summary why you reverted it because then users will not know why it had been deleted.
I miss editing Wikipedia and now I have changed the way I edit articles. If you can could you tell me in brief why you reverted my car photos off Wikipedia without putting it in the edit summary. If you can tell me that would be excellent.
-60.224.249.55 (talk) 04:03, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- I can't recall removing any of EurovisionNim's images lately. You will have to provide examples for me. OSX (talk • contributions) 06:55, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- I was referring to 3 months ago in September. Since July you have reverted a numerous amount of photos from car articles e.g. Honda CR-V, Honda Civic, Peugeot 208 mainly some of the example of car articles - 60.224.249.55 (talk) 07:06, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- Well since I have already discussed such edits with you back at the time I won't be doing so again. It is time to move on I think. Thanks, OSX (talk • contributions) 07:12, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- You should've put it in the edit summary why you removed my images, OSX. It implies to all users. - 60.224.249.55 (talk) 07:16, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, I should probably do a lot of things—but I don't. When another user systematically inserts their images regardless of the image quality into articles indiscriminately, I will not be providing a running commentary for each case or individual article. You would have already been aware of the reasons because I engaged into substantial dialogue with you in respect to matter right here on my talk page. I told you that images were reverted because they did not represent the best available image, so the previous higher-quality images were reinstated as per the standards set by WP:CARS. Can we move on now please? I'd rather not waste anymore time on this months-old issue. Thank you! OSX (talk • contributions) 08:06, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Opel Corsa / Ford Sierra car size
Just thought I'd drop you a line - the IP editor who kept changing the size on the Opel Corsa article was also active in the same vein on the Ford Sierra article. That page has just had protection lifted, and straight away the IP changed the car size again with no discussion. It's not unreasonable to assume that they may appear back on the Corsa page as well at some point. Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:43, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, I will keep an eye out. Thanks for the heads up. OSX (talk • contributions) 13:51, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Holden U platform
I found it here. This could lead to other internet based sources of GM-Holden platform information. (Regushee (talk) 15:57, 5 January 2015 (UTC))
The Original Barnstar
Thank you very much for the The Original Barnstar! I appreciate!--Arado (talk) 18:13, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
OSX II
Is User talk:OSX II linked to you in any way or just a similar name? Stepho talk 07:00, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
- It is my alternative account for Wiki Commons for uploading images from Flickr, see Commons:User:OSX II. I didn't intend to edit here with that account but I did so by accident earlier. Apologies for the confusion. OSX (talk • contributions) 08:22, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
- No probs, just making sure somebody wasn't trying to hijack your good name. Stepho talk 10:22, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Clarification
Oh you're a fucking idiot bastard right?! Many of Wikipedia users thinks that my editing is very very very constructive only you're who is too far from constructive comment to any other editing. Wikipedia is free to edit as we are here members and have sufficient knowledge to give information to world citizens am I right hot damn bastard?? James British 05:00, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- How charming... OSX (talk • contributions) 05:01, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Not to be confused with Studebaker Land Cruiser
What was the reason to remove Template:Distinguish from the Toyota Land Cruiser page? Salmin (talk) 04:53, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
- You can add it back if you like, but I don't think there is any realistic grounds for confusion. They are completely different cars with different names. OSX (talk • contributions) 02:11, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- I believe it is useful because Land cruiser redirects to Toyota Land Cruiser. I don't think these two cruisers justify for a disambiguation page, but a distinguish template will help people trying to navigate to Studebaker Land Cruiser. Restored. Salmin (talk) 06:18, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
about undoing my edit on the automobile conventions page wikiproject.
I do agree that the citation needed tag should only be used in a article, but there is a reason why I placed that tag there. The reason was that, there is a discussion over whether the category page I created named Super cars, should be deleted or not because it does not comply with the classification rules on the wiki project conventions page. This convention that super cars are not a classification is a big problem. Since, on many pages of cars the info box has super car set for its classification, some even have a reference (although those cars may not be on the category page since I did not add all the supercars in the world on that category page yet. ). This also means that the Wikipedia article supercar should also get deleted if it is not a car classification. Also, the convention seems baseless, anyone could have just typed it in, it is like as if some one says that there should not be a category for electric or fuel engines because they are both engines and should be in a common category named engines. That would not make any sense, so please consider that decision that you made, if you do not want to undo your edit I do not mind, just tell me the reason why. Please respond soon. Thank you. Doorknob747 01:32, 9 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talk • contribs)
- Hi. The convention was added by a consensus of Wikipedia editors, it was not just added by "anyone". If you wish to discuss the merits of this convention, the correct way to do so is via the convention talk page. Internal convention pages are not like articles. They are not necessarily based on third party sources, they are based on the consensus of editors. Therefore it is against the spirit of the "citation needed" template to use them in this manner. OSX (talk • contributions) 02:17, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
My Holden Commodore edits
Hi, sorry, looks like I am unintentionally keeping you busy tonight undoing my work! I guess I only briefly contemplated the merit of crowding the main Commodore page with more photos or removing non-Chevy Omega photos... no issue with either of your reverts of course. On the Omega article though, why feature a VX Holden when there's a VTII Chevy available? Surely that's fit to feature in that article somewhere? CtrlXctrlV (talk) 12:24, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- Hi. Normally we use a front 3/4 view image for the infobox. The Holden images are most relevant as they are the closest we have in spec to the Chevrolet Omega. The VX Luminas pictured at Chevrolet Omega previously were based on the Commodore-spec cars; Chevy Omegas are typically based on the Berlina or Calais.
- Appearance-wise, the Omega is based on the VT I Calais (1998–1999), VT II Calais (1999–2001), VX I Calais without full-width tail-lamps (2001–2003), VY I Calais (2003–2005), VZ Berlina (2005–2007), VE Berlina (2007–2008), and VE II Berlina (2010–2011).
- Finally, please stop uploading copyright violations to Wikimedia Commons. You know what I am talking about. I am working to have the images deleted, please DO NOT upload any further internet rip-offs because you will end up receiving a site-wide ban if you keep up this sort of behaviour up. I think you make very valuable contributions here and I would loathe seeing such events materialise. If you wish to use other peoples' images, you can do so legitimately by emailing the copyright holders and having them grant permission to release the respective images under a compatible license with Wikipedia / Wikimedia Commons (see Commons:OTRS). OSX (talk • contributions) 13:28, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- I think I need to stop by here more often for clarifications prior to major future edits! Cheers CtrlXctrlV (talk) 13:35, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- No worries :)
- IMO, Chevrolet Omega ought to be converted into a WP:Set index article as per the pages within Category:Set indices on automobiles. What are your thoughts? OSX (talk • contributions) 13:48, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- Normally I'm in favour of this kind of business, but I think that the Chevrolet Omega article is pretty well done as it stands. The trajectory would be a bit lost if it was made into a set index. Cheers, Mr.choppers | ✎ 04:15, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
@CtrlXctrlV, the images at Wiki Commons have now been deleted. I strongly suggest that you DO NOT upload anymore copyright violations in the future. I have not filed any formal complaint this time, but if it happens again you will leave me with no choice but to do this. You will probably end up with a block.
Should you wish to use an image found somewhere on the internet that is not licensed under a compatible Wiki license please ask me to assist you with the OTRS work required to get the appropriate permissions. Regards, OSX (talk • contributions) 07:28, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
- Hi OSX, a few pix were legitimate and I may upload them again but do you mean to say that regardless of their appropriate uploads, it will just be assumed that they are without permission? As an aside, I managed to get in touch with the Brazilian owner and photographer of a real Chevy Omega and I think I have the right proforma for him to complete/reply to. If I have time I will attempt to put it through the Wiki Commons procedure. Which would be good instead of having just Holden's there CtrlXctrlV (talk) 07:06, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
- If you own the copyright to the photos there is not an issue. The problem is that you were passing of web images as your own. If you took the photo, you may upload it using your CtrlXctrlV account. You should not be using any other accounts (this is a big no-no). Regarding the Chevy Omega, if you can get OTRS permission, then that may also be upload. Cheers, OSX (talk • contributions) 04:23, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- Just stopping by to tell you about this page [[1]]. Isn't that your handy VT photography on this manual's website? I guess it's just automated caching off wiki? User:CtrlXctrlV|CtrlXctrlV]] (talk) 05:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, it appears that allcarmanuals.com is based on Wiki content (at least somewhat). However, in the case of my photos, as I release them into the public domain, anyone is free to use them as they wish without attribution. OSX (talk • contributions) 09:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Congradulations
![]() | This user has been awarded with the Big interest in car award. |
Doorknob747 20:35, 19 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talk • contribs)
- removable if you want. Doorknob747 20:59, 19 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talk • contribs)
- Thanks for that! Cheers. OSX (talk • contributions) 04:13, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Possible attacks on the Perodua Myvi article
Better be prepared, as the Perodua Myvi article might get vandalized within the week due to a controversial car accident in Malaysia. - Areaseven (talk) 16:33, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- Three in family killed in crash
- Drivers of two Myvis in DUKE accident out on bail
- DUKE crash: Myvi club pledges to financially support orphaned sisters
- Familia Myvi Club may be deregistered if involved in DUKE crash, says RoS
- Police: Two Myvi drivers in DUKE crash to be charged tomorrow
- Ok, I will keep an eye out. OSX (talk • contributions) 07:24, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- Looks like I overestimated the reaction level of the accident, as there's been only one instance of vandalism on the article. - Areaseven (talk) 13:50, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
FTE pix
Hi there, looks like your photo renaming caused some pix to disappear, from here Tickford Vehicle Engineering and whatever other page used the same material. CtrlXctrlV (talk) 13:08, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
- All appears to be OK on my end. Can you please try a different browser or clear your browser cache. This is probably what is causing the images not to display on your end. OSX (talk • contributions) 13:16, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
- Hmmm tried different browser knowing that's not it. There used to be 6 FTE's in total (including a front shotof the red one) but now it's only 4 in total. Bot cleared the 2 lost ones that weren't displaying. CtrlXctrlV (talk) 14:11, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
- I see that the bot removed two images for some reason. I have placed two images back into the gallery. OSX (talk • contributions) 14:30, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Ford Ranger
Hello. I know the Ford Ranger in its first generation was basically a 1983-1989/1990 compact pickup truck. I also know that the Ford Ranger in its first generation and in production as early as January 1991. That's all I know where I see commercials off of youtube so I think the Ford Ranger ended production of the first generation in 1991 of early January. So basically the Rangers model years of the first generation was 1983 to 1989/1990. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.4.56.149 (talk) 00:38, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, you will need a proper source for this claim (website, car magazine, book, etc). TV commercials cannot be used to source such things as they don't tend to mention production dates. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:12, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Image replacement
Hi OSX, Hope you are well and thanks for the comment about my improvements of my photos,
I recently purchased a DSLR so that might've been the reason why they are at excellent quality.
Now down to business :D
I am looking back at the following articles: Holden Commodore (VE) and Chevrolet Omega
Now both of them have the following image: File:2007 Holden Berlina (VE MY07) sedan (2007-03-08).jpg which I think it is at low quality that I do not think is the best because it only shows the rear view of the car. Now have a look at the following image I photographed: File:2006-2009 Holden VE Berlina sedan (2015-05-29).JPG - I believe that image is better because it shows the front view and also shows the sides. I read WP:CARPIX and photographed the car accordingly. I waited for the sun to dim and when there was only a little bit of sun I took a photograph of the car.
Please OSX, could you find which is the better image and reply.
Thanks and keep up the good work EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 07:23, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, I agree that your image is more suitable as per the guidelines at WP:CARPIX. Feel free to update the image as you see fit. Cheers, OSX (talk • contributions) 22:51, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
Proposed rename of Ford Motor Company of Australia
Hi OSX. In this comment, did you mean "I'm not proposing a deletion"? Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 00:29, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry for the confusion. I have fixed the typo now. It now states: "I'm not proposing a deletion, just a rename." OSX (talk • contributions) 01:09, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
You do realize that all of those trim lists are unsourced, right? And that they're UK specific, which isn't appropriate. Plus, the way they're written looks almost exactly like the brochure, which makes me think it is probably a copyvio. So why on earth are you trying to edit-war to keep in totally unsourced information that is UK specific and contains OR commentary to boot? Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 00:38, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
- Usually I have no issues whatsoever with your edits and they generally make sense - but these reverts really don't, and I'd like an explanation, please. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 10:29, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, I missed this section last time as I had received another message from EurovisionNim after this and this one got "buried" above it by the time got to the talk page. I fundamentally disagree that trim levels are not notable, especially for cars sold in limited markets like the Aygo. Most of Wikipedia is unsourced, but removing unsourced content does more harm than good in my view—it destroys often good information. I agree that the way the trim levels for this car have been inserted into the article are less than ideal (should be in prose), but removing the content is detrimental. The best bet is to tag it as unsourced and try to convert to prose under a section for the UK market. Toyota Camry (XV40)#Market is an example of an article that does this appropriately in my view. To say that trim levels are not notable is like saying iPhone articles cannot mention the various colours and capacities on offer (e.g. white, 16 GB) which are akin to trim levels. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Australian Cars
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Hi OSX,
Well done on uploading some more Australian new car photos. Looks like you stole the job from me.
I will be heading to singapore and vietnam on a holiday so I will be photographing cars to add to illustrate the different cars available in Singapore and Vietnam. Please if possible can you reply on my talk page and tell me which cars I should be photographing. I will then take those photos of these cars and add them to Wikipedia. I will be taking my Canon DSLR and take photographs of those cars.
If you reply on my talkpage then what I can do is write down the cars and then when I head on holidays on December 22 - January 18 I will if possible photograph those cars and add them to Wikipedia.
Be aware that I will be picking up the pieces of the cars you forgot to photograph.
However if you wish to reply on your talkpage it is not a problem.
Anyway please keep up the great work and happy editing and photographing EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 08:34, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
- (talkpage stalker) Nim, just take lots of photos! I am afraid that the cars in Singapore are not very interesting, most of them are very new and very boring - although one can see some strange Chinese cars around. I was there a few years ago and was very disappointed in the car spotting. In Vietnam, you will mostly see Toyota Corollas. Anything that is not a Corolla might be worth photographing. Here are two shots my mom took a few years back. Enjoy your trip. Mr.choppers | ✎ 15:51, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
- @EurovisionNim. I am glad you like the new photos. I do not have any special requests but if you see something rare, do your best to get a photo. Also, when taking images of common cars, try to stick to models in original condition with correct wheels/hubcaps and free of damage/dirt/rain, etc. As your recent photos taken with the Canon DSLR are of very high quality, I look forward to seeing more photos from you. Good cameras can make a big difference. I upgraded to the Panasonic DMC-LX100 late last year and I'm very impressed with it. It is not a DSLR, but the image quality is very high for a point-and-shoot camera. Remember, don't spend too much time taking photos of cars when on holidays, make sure you enjoy yourself! Regards, OSX (talk • contributions) 12:25, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
commas
Hi OSX, I don't know about you, but I strongly dislike using a spacer (comma or space) whenever there is a four-digit number. That is, I would like to write 1998 and 12,043, but never 1,998. I found that the tag "comma=5" allows for just that. Now, since the WP style guide says that the spacer is optional for four-digit numerals, is there any way to make a bot add "|comma=5" to all conversion templates used on automotive pages? I reckon a conversation before such a large scale edit is carried out would be good, I just wanted to know a) if it is possible and b) if anyone agreed with me on this. Cheers, Mr.choppers | ✎ 16:36, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Mr.choppers, I recall that you have raised this before to no avail at WP:CARS. I personally use a comma, but I am not particularly fussed either way. The WP style guide ought to "pick a team" to eliminate disputes but they don't unfortunately. You should probably try again for a consensus at WP:CARS, although that page is very deserted these days. Is there any particular reason why the comma is bothersome to you? Not having a go at you, but I would like to know if there is some convention within the greater automotive sphere that I am unaware of. OSX (talk • contributions) 02:01, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- I just think it serves no purpose with four-digit numbers. With bigger numbers it is useful, as it makes it easier to grasp the magnitude of the number. There also happens to be a lot of four-digit codes (for metric users) in the automotive world. I figured the comma was a US thing, but maybe I ought to look again... Mr.choppers | ✎ 20:34, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
New page - CSV
Hi, I hope I haven't wasted my time but I just created a new page on Corsa Specialised Vehicles. I just realised its contents correctly states "Specialised" but the title reads "Special"! How can it be fixed? And can you independently review it so that it remains permanently published? Cheers CtrlXctrlV (talk) 16:25, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I've since marked "Corsa Special Vehicles" for deletion and created Corsa Specialised Vehicles in lieu. Same content, corrected title. CtrlXctrlV (talk) 16:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- A day later - looks like there now needs to be "community" support for this CSV page to stay since 2 users (not from Australia) deemed it appropriate to delete everything, without discussion. Would you (and other automotive enthusiasts you know on here) support/edit it to make it stay? See Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2015_June_21. CtrlXctrlV (talk) 14:06, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, I'm not familiar with the CSV brand myself, but I am not opposed to an article for these cars. I do not believe that you should be creating CSV sections at pages like Holden Commodore because CSV is not an official modifier of Holden cars like HSV is. WP:CARS has come to a resolution in the past that only offical variants should be covered in car articles. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:16, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
- I had not considered what you said above and it makes sense. I guess it's like Ford and Tickford/FPV to the exclusion of others like DJR. Well, sorry it looks like you end up being the one cleaning things up. I will remove anything else that you haven't attended to. Would it however be ok to list the CSV cars as "related"? I will leave them listed pending your further response. CtrlXctrlV (talk) 10:09, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'm not sure what the guidelines are for related, I guess just leave them alone for now. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:24, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Chevy Cruze edit
I didn't even do anything wrong, i was jus saying its the de facto replacement. no reason to edit it out. if you want to edit it out, edit out the part where it says the buick verano replaced it in canada. --50.180.208.181 (talk) 21:22, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, I removed reference to the Verano because 1) it was unsourced and 2) Buick is a near luxury brand, whereas Chevrolet is the entry-level brand. This model appears to be a supplementary, not a co-replacement for the Chevy Cobalt. OSX (talk • contributions) 23:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
WikiProject Brands at Talbot Tagora
Any reason to do this? © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 02:57, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Talbot Tagora is a model of car, not a brand, hence the WikiProject is out of scope for the topic. OSX (talk • contributions) 05:49, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- From Car model (bold mine): "An automobile model (or car model or model of car, and typically abbreviated to just "model") is a particular brand of vehicle sold under a marque by a manufacture", therefore, a model is a kind of brand, which makes Tagora within the project's scope as it is a brand of Talbot. If you don't consider car models as brands, you should discuss it at BRANDS, because there are thousand of cars listed under their WP scope. © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 02:40, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Images
Hi OSX,
A lot of your images have been placed however it is cluttering the articles. Some images are fine but is it alright if I use my Canon EOS 700D and photograph the cars in my Nedlands area and they turn up as high quality could I please replace them.
I would suggest having a few images removed but I do like your images with the Panasonic LX100. My aim is to photograph the Toyota Camry facelift but the front view so if you could kindly leave that out if possible. I live not far from a dealership and a mate and myself are catching up over the weekend so I will be photographing more cars. I will be aiming at the newer cars like the Mercedes, BMW, Ford and all the other cars I find.
One question - if my images are of same quality do you have a problem with me replacing your image.
Kind Regards --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 05:58, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Nim, please take as many photos as you want. It does not matter if we both photograph the same model of car, we will just pick the best image available for use in articles. Maybe that will be your image, maybe mine, or maybe a photo by someone else.
- You should only replace a photo if you have a better photo to replace it with. Cheers, OSX (talk • contributions) 06:03, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- OSX, thanks. I would think that my mate would come. Bit of advice, don't pick out images unnecessarily. It will then cause clutter on the articles and would be difficult. I would suggest that you keep up the excellent work. I will resume photographing cars over the holidays then photoshop and use lightroom to brighten the image. Cheers --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 06:13, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Image replacement on article Ford Falcon (AU)
Hi OSX,
I hope you are well. I am focusing now on the Ford Falcon (AU) article. Your image File:2000-2001 Ford AUII Falcon Futura 01.jpg is only showing the rear view of the Futura whilst my image File:2000-2001 Ford AUII Falcon Futura Station Wagon 01.jpg is showing the front view of the car. Do you think my image is better than yours in showing the view of the Ford Falcon AUII Futura. Cheers --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 05:35, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have added you image as it shows the front view. The rear is also important as it is the only image that shows the updated AU II tail lamps wagons. OSX (talk • contributions) 05:43, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Car Photography
Hi OSX, Again we chat!! I am a bit curious as I have been for a while. Is the car photography you do a hobby or is it a job. Regards --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 11:33, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- It's a hobby. Do you really think they pay people to do this? OSX (talk • contributions) 13:49, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Recalls
(Classic reply above haha). Just wondering, now that I discovered a/the official webpage for recalls by manufacturers, do you think it would be a waste of time or be frowned upon just adding it as an "external link" at the bottom of the articles? CtrlXctrlV (talk) 04:11, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I too found the question amusing. As for recalls, they need to be in scope of a general purpose encyclopedia. As Wikipedia is not a buyers guide, I would leave such links out. Highly notable recalls should be mentioned in the text though. OSX (talk • contributions) 21:15, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
US spec cars
I find them really boring, but it's nearly impossible to find the specs of the everyday imports from the seventies and eighties. I will probably buy a few more old buyer's guides to get some more info. Thanks for noticing! Mr.choppers | ✎ 14:51, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
- Japanese cars from the 1970s to 1980s are very much within my interests. So thank you for finding all that rare info! It is indeed difficult no matter where you live to find information about cars nobody cares about from pre-internet days. OSX (talk • contributions) 22:08, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Kia listed at Redirects for discussion
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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Kia. Since you had some involvement with the Kia redirect (the move discussion), you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. —Godsy(TALKCONT) 21:03, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Mercedes-Benz GLE-Class
Please do not edit Mercedes-Benz GLE-Class. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.39.15.225 (talk) 15:06, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- I will edit the page as it has been agreed by editors to not have GLE page for now as the content fits comfortably at Mercedes-Benz M-Class. OSX (talk • contributions) 15:11, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Holdens, HSV, Omega
Hi, firstly, I hope I won't have caused any hassles with the Chevrolet Omega re-gig of the photos - just pointing this out, out of courtesy. Secondly, apologies for the extra work I seemed to have caused you lately (e.g. had no idea you should not bold a link, but you learn every day... just unfortunate there's inconsistencies on here). Thirdly, the HSV cars and especially the VN GTS. I have seen on Holden forums that the NZ model was definitely an HSV. Why do you say otherwise? And I think in the VN article, some HSV special editions may have been deleted since my edits. The approach I took was to list as "HSV" any car by them, even if "Holden" badged (the most notorious being the VN Group A SS SV). Is this perhaps where we differ on the "LE"? If it is Holden badged but HSV built, it should be attributed to HSV like the SS above. Not being argumentative, just trying to understand as I just relied on (consistent) online resources to reconcile the HSV list, and you might have superior knowledge and resources. CtrlXctrlV (talk) 17:21, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- There no need to apologise for your edits. While it is true that your edits fill up my watchlist more than anyone else lately, this is a good thing. Thank you very much for all of the many improvements made to Australian car pages this year.
- If I am wrong on the NZ specification VN GTS V6, I apologise. However, my research (again, using less-than-ideal Holden forums of various persuasions) suggests that it was badged "Commodore" and featured the Holden logo up front. I agree that the build is likely to have been contracted out to HSV, but does that really make it an HSV? The Vauxhall VXR8 is also built by HSV, but I have yet to see that model referred to as "HSV VRX8". Likewise, the Holden Apollo (Camry) was built by Toyota but it is not "Toyota Apollo". Manufacturer and brand are quite distinct. I am of the belief that the page is best served by the differentiation of fully-fledged HSV models (Clubsport, Maloo, et cetera) and those models contracted out to HSV by Holden and then sold as "Holden" through Holden (not HSV) dealerships. Of course, a mention of this manufacturing anomaly is warranted with the discussion of these cars.
- I know I have been haphazard in my editing approach at Holden Commodore (VN) by listing all the vehicles built by HSV (i.e. including DMG 90, LE, LS, et cetera) under the HSV section, but this was done more out of convenience because I stumbled upon the excellent list on a forum and did not have time to properly separate out the list. I did the same for VP as well. OSX (talk • contributions) 13:59, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Photoshopping rims to cars
Hi OSX,
Long time since we haven't had a chat.
I am just curious to find out how you manage to get the cars that have had damage back to factory specifications on Photoshop.
For example some files below:
- File:1986 Ford Fairmont (XF) station wagon (2015-02-08).jpg
- File:1986 Toyota Corona (RT142) CSi sedan (2009-01-03).jpg
Can you please give me instructions and uploading on Wikimedia Commons, would that be against the rules for overwriting files, please can you tell me, thanks --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 10:06, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- HI, I cannot explain how I do it really. These are accumulated self-taught skills in Adobe Photoshop. You can only learn these skills by doing them trial and error or by following online how-to guides for specific editing tasks. Changing the wheel trims to the correct form is pretty easy, I just find a different file with the correct wheels and paste the wheel over the top of the incorrect wheel. Then levels and showing, etc, then need to be adjusted so it looks natural. Sometimes, the result looks faked (as with the two images above), other times I have better luck (e.g. File:1992 Holden Statesman (VQ II) sedan (2015-07-09) 01.jpg). It is hard to correct when you are dealing with different wheel sizes. Stretching a 15-inch hubcap over an 18-inch alloy wheel always looks odd. OSX (talk • contributions) 23:52, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- Also, if you are restoring the car to factory specifications I would personally overwrite the original file. The non-stock photo is usually not all that useful when judged to WP:CARPIX standards. OSX (talk • contributions) 00:06, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- Kind of answered my question, however would it be a violation on COM:OVERWRITE --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 00:40, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- No idea. OSX (talk • contributions) 00:52, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
International Intellectual Property Information
I have come across rather unusual information regarding development histories of various vehicles manufactured during late 20th century and 2000s. Japanese patents have now given a clearer idea of some past models development timelines. This website has full patent filings of various Japanese and European brands, including some with actual approval dates. Apparently it takes a very long time between design freeze and actual launch at Toyota, despite how they "officially" pretend otherwise for marketing purposes. The E120 Corolla Altis/U.S. Corolla was already on by July 22, 1999 and designed many months earlier, despite being launched in late 2001/March 2002.
E110 Corolla was a 1992 design effort, even though some markets had barely received the E100 Corolla that autumn. I work in this area at Jaguar Land Rover (mostly design/production feasibility engineering), so this stuff interests me. The XV20 Camry looked like this in January-February 1994. The Camry Solara design was finished about 2.5 - 3 years before going on sale in August 1998, as shown by this January 18, 1996 patent. For patents sometimes a CGI or CAD file is used or an actual photo of a clay model or master model. In cases of the former, it is almost immediate following design programme approval. The latter or with a running prototype, usually is some significant time afterward (months to 1 year+).----Carmaker1 (talk) 06:34, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for this information, very interesting! I have been reading your recent edits regarding Toyotas to see what you have uncovered. Please note that many of the links you provide do not work as they presumably require a user login. OSX (talk • contributions) 10:49, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- I am so sorry about that, as their patent database does not seem to directly link it appears. Navigating it, I just discovered this issue. I may have to redo many of them, to the main page it seems. Searching for patents requires entering "1208" in "Locarno classification" and the time period of interest (i.e. 20150101:20151231). Sometimes this omits other designs in the database, as the Locarno may not be a complete representation. I have also found many things in the German Patent Database (DPMA), including December 1988 patents for the Honda NSX (later launched in 1990).
I am glad the info is somewhat useful, if even merely trivia in some cases. I will try to be a bit more organised in compiling new information, so as not to detract from the quality of existing articles that so many of us work hard on. Thank you for fixing that Camry Solara page and many more.--Carmaker1 (talk) 20:28, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- I am so sorry about that, as their patent database does not seem to directly link it appears. Navigating it, I just discovered this issue. I may have to redo many of them, to the main page it seems. Searching for patents requires entering "1208" in "Locarno classification" and the time period of interest (i.e. 20150101:20151231). Sometimes this omits other designs in the database, as the Locarno may not be a complete representation. I have also found many things in the German Patent Database (DPMA), including December 1988 patents for the Honda NSX (later launched in 1990).
Out of Business
Hi OSX,
I went recently on a school camp and as a mate passed a soccer ball to play a game, I dropped my compact camera and is unable to be used. I will not be very active in photographing cars in Australia. I will be going to Vietnam and Singapore to take the photographs of cars.
I am going to be purchasing a new camera, an advanced compact, i.e. Nikon Coolpix S7000 or Panasonic Lumix TZ 70. The camera is too expensive to repair and I only have a DSLR however this is used mainly for serious photography.
I will do my best to get back to the project but i have to get a new one to resume photographing cars in Australia. My primary focus will be on Vietnamese and Singapore cars. Kind regards, --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 08:53, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- Also to add I will be photographing cars only on my DSLR, if I have it with me and if available :) --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 09:00, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Nim, I am sorry to hear about the damage. Hopefully you can get a new compact camera sometime soon as you are the only West Australian car photographer on Wikimedia. OSX (talk • contributions) 20:24, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks
Hi OSX,
Thank you for photographing more cars. I am struggling to find some old cars in my neighbourhood. I am in Nedlands and it is difficult to find those old timers. I am still photographing cars, but not as often as I did before with my compact camera, as I do not use my iPhone as it takes low quality shots. I was lucky to find a Series II Hyundai i30 on Verdun Street as me and my friend were walking around as he has never seen Nedlands.
I am still taking photos of cars with my DSLR and by December should be able to acquire an advanced compact as the camera was not fixable. Have a nice day --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 01:59, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- I appreciate your interest in my photos as a lot of effort goes into doing this (more so in the identification and uploading as opposed to taking the actual photographs). I am not very familiar with the geography of Perth, but I know that in Sydney and Melbourne certain areas tend to be better than others for spotting older mainstream cars (i.e. the crap most people are not interested in). My favourite areas to photograph old timers are in the inner-city pockets where the trendy hipsters live (a few years ago it became suddenly cool to drive a Datsun 180B or Volvo 240) and the highly ethnic suburbs. Wealthier areas tend to be good for older high-end cars or just cars in general that are in excellent condition. The most boring cars tend to be found in boring, white, middle-class suburbia. OSX (talk • contributions) 06:01, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- By the way, if you want one of the best compact cameras I would take a look at the Sony RX100 IV. I personally use the Panasonic Lumix LX100, which is technically better than the RX but is a bit too bulky at times. The Sony RX100 IV is actually pocketable and still maintains excellent image quality not far behind the Panasonic. OSX (talk • contributions) 06:04, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- Like me, I live in Nedlands, which is an affluent suburb in Perth, Western Australia. I always seek the opportunity to grab old timers but it never becomes successful. I am actually a Nikon user. Do you recommend a specific Nikon camera model as I am not paying $1 000 for a compact camera. I am looking at a Nikon Coolpix S7000 or S9900, they are more affordable for my budget as I am not paying 1 grand for a compact when I already have a DSLR. --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 06:12, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- I can't recommend any of the more basic compacts as I don't research them. You did say that you were looking to buy an "advanced compact", so I interpreted that as high-end. OSX (talk • contributions) 06:43, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks! Though I haven't been completely gone, I just have been editing from IPs instead of my account. Karrmann (talk) 06:57, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Your talk TOC
How did you make change the font on your table of contents of this page? Catmando999 Check out his talk page! 20:49, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
- Like this: [2]. OSX (talk • contributions) 21:56, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
jeremyg3030 images, please upload
Hi OSX,
Could you please upload some more images from jeremyg3030. I am struggling to find photos of cars necessary for the article. He has some new images of the cars that I can use to replace the poor quality images. I cannot seem to activate my Flickr to Commons, as it requires a lot of work and I am unsure how to activate it.
Could you please do me a favour and upload all the car images from jeremyg3030 so I can use it on the articles, to replace the low quality images, Thanks, and have a nice day --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 09:00, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
- I will upload soon, but it is time consuming... just be patient. Good night. OSX (talk • contributions) 12:45, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- EurovisionNim: I am in the process of uploading his images now, are you able to please help with the categorisation? They are all in Commons:Category:Photographs uploaded by OSX — sort. If you want to help out, please replace this temporary category with the correct one(s). Thanks! OSX (talk • contributions) 11:55, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
Two images on Ford Mondeo
Hi OSX,
User:Davey2010, thinks that File:2015 Ford Mondeo 1.6 Zetec Econetic TDCi Estate (16922091829).jpg is better than File:2015 Ford Mondeo (MD) Ambiente station wagon (2015-11-14) 01.jpg. I do believe that my image is better, albeit its brightness. I do believe mine is better because it is better quality and it does not have the other cars surrounding it. Could you have a look and judge through which of the images are better because I do believe mine is the best and I do not want to go into an edit war and end up blocked.
Please can you help and figure out which one is the best, Thanks --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 01:16, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- I tend to agree with Davey2010. Your photo has the unfortunate sunlight issues, which make the paint tones less even (some parts are washed out), and your image also has more reflections on the body work. I do believe your image is better on a technical basis (i.e. sharper) and has a slightly better background. However, overall, I think the UK-spec image has a slight edge. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:28, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- I took this on a sunny day with my camera, so do you believe that the UK image should remain on the top infobox, or should I replace it with the Australian image --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 01:30, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- As I said, the UK image is the better one in my view. So I would be using that one. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:38, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the pings - As I said on my talkpage there's pros and cons with both to be honest but at the moment I'd still say the UK one's better, I did wonder if mucking around with the contrast could help but I'm not entirely sure if it'd work or even look right so probably a good idea not too, (BTW I completely forgot to say anything this afternooon but I apologize OSX for reverting you earlier - Not entirely sure what even happened but sorry anyway), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 02:14, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Infobox spacing
Hi OSX, Re this edit[3] - Infobox spacing is the norm here and to be honest I assumed it looked okay on them all ?, I use Chrome and everything's spaced fine, Then again I guess if you're using a laptop with a lower screen resolution then it perhaps does look weird, Anyway thanks, –Davey2010Talk 02:19, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- In my experience, very few automobile articles use such spacing for the infobox to align each field. Maybe this is different for other area. My screen resolution is high enough at 2560-by-1600 pixels, but this may be a Mac/Windows issue (I use Mac). All Macs that I have used do not use monospaced fonts for text input except in Firefox. OSX (talk • contributions) 02:33, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- I think so far I've been the only to change them all, Bloody hell that's higher than mine!
(Mines 1366×768), Ah well I use Windows so I guess it's a Mac issue (I've never used Mac but they look pretty cool! :)), Well seeing as you're having issues I won't revert :), Anyway thanks and Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 15:15, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- I think so far I've been the only to change them all, Bloody hell that's higher than mine!
- Thanks! OSX (talk • contributions) 15:17, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Rear view of Ford Mondeo
Hi OSX,
About Overlaet's image of the Ford Mondeo rear view, Davey2010 reverted it. I do believe my image File:2015 Ford Mondeo (MD) Ambiente station wagon (2015-11-14) 02.jpg is better than his image, because of there are no heavy distracting backgrounds. I would like you to decide which is the better one. Thanks --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 09:53, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, in this case I prefer your photo. OSX (talk • contributions) 11:36, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Flickr
Hi OSX,
I understand you're a prolific Flickr user, uploading plenty of pictures of cars. However, I'm having great difficulties when it comes to searching through the "Melbourne" tag for free images of Melbourne, its surroundings, beaches, architecture etc. – and instead of quickly finding said images, I'm constantly finding a barrage of images of cars. Would you be able to, if possible, cease tagging said uploads of yours under the "Melbourne" tag, as it is proving to be quite frustrating navigating through the tag to find images for Wikipedia.
A fellow Melburnian, —MelbourneStar☆talk 08:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Hi MelbourneStar, I include all my car photos taken in the Melbourne area under the aptly titled "Melbourne" album. I would prefer to keep doing this. However, I know of an easy workaround for you. Rather than just typing in "Melbourne" into the Flickr search field, type "Melbourne -car". By the same token, if you also don't want pictures tagged with "zoo" for example, type "Melbourne -car -zoo". Let me know how you go. OSX (talk • contributions) 08:43, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, my, OSX: You're an absolute gem! it works perfectly. Thank you very much for this, and my apologies for any troubles caused. Best, —MelbourneStar☆talk 09:14, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Changes
Please stop reverting changes I made, except it really needs to change. Juan20102006 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:08, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- I am reverting changes that make articles worse off. Sorry. OSX (talk • contributions) 22:12, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Suzuki XL7
Hi, remember the page Suzuki XL-7? Well,the second generation was really called "XL7". That´s why I created a page called Suzuki XL7 that did not redirect. And I also used it to put it for main article in the page Suzuki XL-7 About Holden Captiva pages: I created those pages. Please stop changing redirects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juan20102006 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- XL-7 and XL7 are almost the same name. It goes against general precedence to create separate articles for such a minor change in name. It is quite easy to keep it in one page and make a note stating the name changed.
- As for the Holden Captiva 5 and Holden Captiva 7 redirects, these should point to the relevant sections. The Chevrolet information is irrelevant for those looking for information about the Holdens, hence the section redirects. OSX (talk • contributions) 22:29, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Before, there was a page called Suzuki XL7 and Suzuki XL-7 said "Redirect to Suzuki XL7" Why did you change it? Note: In the Suzuki XL7 page said "styled before 2006 as XL-7" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juan20102006 (talk • contribs) 22:47, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- The original XL-7 was sold internationally in much higher numbers than the second generation sold in the Americas, see WP:Common name. OSX (talk • contributions) 23:18, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
December 2015
You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Suzuki Cultus. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit-warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.
If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose editing privileges. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit-warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit-warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a loss of editing privileges. 174.23.115.41 (talk) 08:26, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- From WP:MODELYEARS: "Unless the article is about an automobile produced by a North American company primarily for North American consumption ... articles should prioritize calendar years over model years." Which means OSX is correct and the anon-IP is going against agreed WP guidelines by trying to enforce a US-centric view on an international article. Stepho talk 08:38, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- From WP:EDIT WARRING: "An editor who repeatedly restores his or her preferred version is edit-warring regardless of whether their edits were justifiable: 'But my edits were right, so it wasn't edit-warring' is no defense," which means it doesn't matter how correct OSX is; he was still edit-warring. 174.23.115.41 (talk) 09:50, 12 December 2015 (UTC)