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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 188.118.18.49 (talk) at 11:58, 6 January 2016 (→‎What is the value of this wiki page without context explanation?: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Undated predictions

Can anyone explain why undated predictions should be mentioned. Almost all Christians believe Christ will return at some point - an undated prediction is not helpful in an article like this. Any objections to me removing them? Freikorp (talk) 12:17, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the undated predictions as I believe these are completely pointless. Freikorp (talk) 03:04, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Claimants

While we're at it, the 'Claimants' section also seems pointless to me. These mentions should either be integrated into the table or removed entirely. These mentions belong at List of people who have claimed to be Jesus (which is already mentioned in the 'see also' section, making it even more pointless to list certain people who claimed to be Jesus here). Any objections to removing that as well? Freikorp (talk) 13:58, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I propose we move this article to "List of predicted dates for the Second Coming of Christ", or something along those lines. I have recently removed the "Claimants" section as this information is available in much better detail as "List of people who have claimed to be Jesus". As this article is now accordingly just a list of dates I propose the name change. Comments or objections? Freikorp (talk) 03:08, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Millennium

There were already two predictions of Christ's Millennium in the article, so I have decided to add many more, with a disclaimer in the intro paragraph explaining that there are different theories as to when the Millennium is believed to occur in relation to the Second Coming. Any comments regarding this are welcome. Freikorp (talk) 23:21, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Prediction deleted

The only prediction that will come to pass... and censors here deleted it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.207.214 (talk) 05:50, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What is the value of this wiki page without context explanation?

May I suggest that someone adds the required context to place this in perspective, please? There are references in the Bible, like the book of Revelation I guess. Also Rudolf Steiner explains why the Bible texts cannot be understood in literal form with our current rational intellect (see the loss of Logos around 4th century), and why the second coming of Christ can never be a physical incarnation not just will be - but actually already is - in the etheric. The dozens of lectures given on the subject appear to me to be more informative that a listing which does not say what is meant and why. Especially empty statements by any person for any reason don't appear to be of very much value listing: who cares what unqualified people scream or state? The point is: these matters are not so easy to understand or make sense of without deeper study, at the level of empty popularized phrases they are of no meaning.