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- FrancisTyers · 17:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, you can email me or come on irc at anytime. I'm usually checking my emails and online. - FrancisTyers · 17:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Which is why we have private messaging (/msg), and I said to email me ;) - FrancisTyers · 17:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Opinion

Hi I would appreciate your opinion here: [1]. --Ali doostzadeh 02:05, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

ASALA

I think it is an undeniable fact ASALA seeked an independent Armenian state that consisted of a large portion Eastern Turkey. Please don't let some Armenians portray them as avengers; they even shot a Turkish diplomat along with his family, him and daughter death, wife and son wounded.--Kagan the Barbarian 07:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll talk to Kertenkelebek.--Kagan the Barbarian 08:09, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Khoikhoi, please monitor this article. Things are getting way out of hand. -- Clevelander 14:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Hi my friend, can I do anything for you?--Aldux 12:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey!

I am in Istanbul for six months. Non-combatant :-) Ciao! Behemoth 16:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I still don't know what exactly I am going to do. It is a month of training (with total seclusion) and then I will be commissioned for a post, most likely at a military court. I won't have access to Internet during training period but after that, I'll have the opportunity. Once in a week, though. Behemoth 01:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, very interesting indeed. I hope you could have a taste of this interesting life too. Just kiddin'. Last words before I depart...Take good care of yourself and Wikipedia. Don't leave it to nationalist bigots. Probably can leave you a message after a month. Until then, ciao!!! Behemoth 01:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, man when I am on my way I noticed your intervention [2] I don't think you'll ever let me down. I am now listening to Muharem Serbezovski and his "Osman Aga" but daddy is on my head and he'll not let me drink more. Lots of love and peace for the universe we are constrained to live in. Ciao once again!!! Behemoth 23:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Mr Khoi, go ahead edit anything you'd like on my user page, you only help out :) Thanks a lot dear Khoi. Also how can i archive the user talk page? Ldingley 16:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Well did you see the talk page? He made a personal attack based on his nationalistic agenda on Wikipedia. Thanks for reminding but I’m always civil and I don’t usually personally attack anyone (in life and online). But Russian users are teamed up and they help to implement Russian POVs on some articles. Anti-Georgian hysteria which dominated today's Russia has been also apparent on Wikipedia. Both countries are almost on the brink of war. Just yesterday, Russian Cossacks and Krasnodar special forces landed in Abkhazia to start military operations against Georgians. Abkhazia is flooded by Russian terrorist groups (Adigey volunteer battalion, Cossacks of Don and Krasnodar, etc) Just today, 3 Georgian civilians were murdered for refusing to dig trenches in Gali region. As you see, their relations are bad and it also affects quality of Wiki articles. Due to this tension, some Russian users are engaged in POV implementation and adding information which suits the interest of their country, ei conflicting side. That’s why i fleered up. Ldingley 16:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Bonaparte's pictures

I think if the pictures are good and potentially usable like the Brasov pictures then they should stay. If we have incorrect, dubious or unsourced maps, then they should be deleted. Can you comment on the maps he created, are any of them good? abakharev 03:31, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Action against mikkalai

Khoi, you think this is normal? you think this is not personal attack and insults? Are you being biased toward me or am i missing something? "A Russophobic LDingley aggressively pushes his POV in Georgian-Abkhaz conflict despite myself being exceptionally mild with my changes after ghirla asked me to keep an eye. Judging from his swinging hot temper I start suspecting that he is in fact a sock of a Georgian nationalist, contrary to the photo in his user page."

Listen, i try to write articles based on numerous sources I have, plus personal experience. If you don't like the content, please change it but be fair. Im very relaxed dear Khoi but its kind of sucks when 3 Russians attack you by using insults. I think its better if i stop contributing on wiki because it leads to direct confrontation with Russians. Do you know why? have you listened to news lately? Also surely due to my sympathies for the Chechen cause and my condemnation of Chechen genocide (if this is russophobic then im also Turkophobic due to my condemnation of Armenian genocide). But as usual you are correct in many ways. Well, I'll start retreating from wikipedia bit by bit. Ldingley 15:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not for condemnation. It is encyclopedia, not human rights watch. By the way, I am not Russian. As for your "retreating bit by bit", let me remind you that unlike you I did not revert whole your contributuions in huge pieces. So if you will continue acting in your way, in addition to retreating "bit by bit", you will be simply blocked bit by bit. And try to remember that "Russian POV" is not a valid reason for revert. `'mikka (t) 17:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Khoi, please monitor that article. Im retreating from it. Im tired of that man. You are fair and true NPOV man so i ytrust you fully. BTW do you like my ethiopian photos? Here People of Ethiopia. Ldingley 19:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

mikka

Answered in my talk page. `'mikka (t) 17:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


Request for comments

Not sure if you want to add your statement to Talk:English people#Request for Comment: Peoples related to the English. It seems you have warned the same anon IP before. Regards, E Asterion u talking to me? 20:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, interesting. E Asterion u talking to me? 21:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Goldom's RFA thanks

Thank you for your support on my RFA, which closed successfully this morning with a result of (53/2/1). I've spent the day trying out the new tools, and trying not to mess things up too badly :). I was quite thrilled with all the support, both from the people I see around every day, as well as many users who I didn't know from before, yet wrote such wonderful things about me. I look forward to helping to serve all of you, and the project. Let me know if there's anything I can help you with. -Goldom ‽‽‽ 04:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi khoikhoi

Please visit [3] page and add your personal email at the bottom for better collaboration, networking and comunication. Thanks :) Omerlives

About Ismet Inonu

Hi,

I found this: the later second president of the Republic of Turkey, İsmet İnönü, was born in İzmir, but in a Kurdish family hailing from Malatya in Eastern Turkey and in the Turkish context this would make him a man from Malatya much more than one from İzmir.

The Young Turks – Children of the Borderlands? By Erik Jan Zürcher, Department of Turkish Studies, Universiteit Leiden.

So one might say he was from Kurdish background.Heja Helweda 23:49, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Khoi

Dear Khoi, thanks for your advice and good will. I really appreciate your support and understanding. You have been known as NPOV man, so please take care of that article so it can be truly NPOV. I will ask my Abkhaz friend online to join the editing on Wikipedia. Thanks again Khoi! Ldingley 15:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

hehehe somebody really hates shevardnadze :))) should i remove it? :)) Ldingley 00:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
hahaha no we can call it "briliant people of Georgia" :))))) hehehe that was good one, is that lavzur who is deleting? :) Ldingley 00:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Well Mr Urushadze is a good historian. I seen his work. He is a good man but hates that damn shevardnadzes picture for sure, hahaha :) I think thanks to me he does not sleep at all :) I just cant get over it, its too funny. BTW he was correct, Stalin was trully one of the greatest enemy of his nation :) what a character :) Ldingley 00:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Khoi, I think Zurab was his father. Im not sure. I emailed him couple of times but he never wrote back. Stalin was never popular in Georgia. Only in 1958 Georgians started to defend him due to Khrechovs policy of vilifying Stalin due to his nationality. Russians would claim, hey he was not Russian... He was Soso or Koba from Gori. So they pissed of many Georgians. The only ones who admire him are communists in Georgia (few old grandpas with WWII medals on them) and ultra-nationalists in Russia. :) Ldingley 17:22, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I updates Stalin article with interesting photos. Ldingley 17:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Interesting letter:

Recently Former President of Georgia Eduard Shevardnadze gave his authority to publish his last appeal to Russian President Boris Yeltsin before fall of Sukhumi on September 27, 1993.

The following is the appeal of Eduard Shevardnadze:

I am addressing you from the besieged Sukhumi not knowing if my words will ever reach you. The fighting is underway only a few blocks away from where I am with my friends. Regardless what happens I will not leave this town which has been treacherously deceived once again. I will not leave Sukhumi residents who have suffered immensely in their own town, left to their fate vis-a-vis a brutal, inhuman force, which keeps shelling the residential areas. 400 civilians had been killed and 153 wounded in the last two days. The total number of casualties has reached 10,031 while that of the wounded is 9,802.

How often have I asked myself – what is happening? What for?

The Gudauta separatists say they are fighting for freedom, for the right to live on their native land. But it is not the same freedom, or the same right that the 240 000 Georgians, whose roots on this soil can be traced many centuries back, thirst for and are trying to gain. This land is a common cradle of the Georgians and the Abkhazs.

We did not intend to deport anyone, while the criminal will of those who sponsor the Gudauta group has caused 150 thousand Georgians too seek refuge elsewhere and presently these people are dying of hunger and disease in various towns of Russia and Georgia.


We did not intend to conquer anyone – can one conquer his own people or seize his own land – the seedbed of our culture and statehood. We only aspired to defend the sovereignty of the Republic, protect its vital communications, do away with the hotbeds of sabotage and terror, and we wanted to do all that with consent and participation of our Abkhaz fellow-countrymen. The leaders of the Abkhaz Vendee were fully aware of it. They knew that the territory of the autonomous republic was being used by the gangs of thugs and terrorists for sabotage against the Republic of Georgia. They, however, tolerated them since they intended to use this trump card for their political benefit.

They have succeeded with the help and participation of those forces in Russia and our country that have decided to rend Georgia apart. Now that the efforts of the enemies inside Georgia, the "spontaneous" (as it is called in Gudauta) violation of the cease-fire and some steps taken in the highest echelons of the Russian military have coincided we have every ground to hold that this has been a well-coordinated and highly synchronized joint blow. I want the world to realize that Abkhazia is an arena of empire's revenge, "the second August", the explosive that is going to be used to blow up not only Shevardandze's Georgia, but Yeltsin's Russia as well. Boris Nikolaevich, Basaev’s Islamist thugs which you finance and arm will turn against you eventually.

All the events that have occurred prior to the present inferno are logically interconnected. On September 3, 1992 we signed the final document in Moscow. The link was still gone on the paper when the heavy boots of the mercenaries trampled the document by storming the unarmed Gagra. On May 14, 1993 we agreed on a cease-fire a landing force armed to its teeth was landed in Ochamchire district. As a result Sukhumi was virtually blockaded. And finally, for the mediator we have signed the agreement on 27 July 1993 and were betrayed again. The cannons that were to be withdrawn resumed thundering, the engines of the combat equipment, that was to be dismantled, were started anew, and the mercenaries that had allegedly been disarmed began their new assault. And once again we are forced to state that the guarantor has either been unable to be or did not wish to be one performing his duties.

My talks with general Grachev, the defense minister of Russia yielded no result. He insists on destroying us and continues his aid to terrorists. Russian airforce is bombing our cities, villages and killing thousands of civilians. Our ancient churches in Pitsunda and Akhali Atani are destroyed by Russian planes. How can you wage a war against your fellow Christians? How can you encourage and support the Islamist militants of Soslanbekov and Shamyl Basaev? This Islamist movement which Russia has created to destroy Georgia is spreading rapidly all over Caucasus.

Nevertheless I call all again on you Boris Nikolaevich, and on the entire Russia and the world community – do not let the monstrous crime to happen, stop the execution of the small country, save my homeland and my people from burning in the fire fanned by the imperial reactionaries. The nations, that has created a vast cultural heritage and an elevated spiritual Christian traditions.

Dear Boris Nikolaevich, don't you think the time has come now to stop destroying this ancient Christian nation? We will never forget or forgive if Sukhumi falls into the hands of separatist criminals. These will also be the words spoken for Russia since our peoples have often shared a common destiny.

I count on the help of the friendly Ukrainian people and their President with whom I signed a mutual assistance treaty. Ukraine has aided us in the most difficult times.

Aspiring to end the cold war I fought for the freedom and independence of all the peoples. Little did I know then that after the major threats confronting the mankind were removed pitch-dark clouds would descend upon my homeland.

Someone may say, this is a cry of despair. No! If it is a cry at all, then it is a cry of my soul, and the soul of my people, and I want it to be heard. Because the world cannot be happy, it cannot go on leading serene, comfortable life while the death threatens a nation, even if it happens to the smallest one.

I am writing this at 3 a.m. The city is being shelled. 1500 houses have already been destroyed. There is no water, no bread, no light and the hope is dwindling. The shelling continues. A few shells have just hit a maternity home, where it killed some mothers and their infants. Stop this Genocide!

I am not saying good-bye, I don't want to. May God send you peace and happiness."

Hi Khoi

How are you? I don't understand very well what that tag means on User:Georgianis page. Can you please explain? He mostly edits Georgia-related articles and seems to have quite formidable knowledge in the Georgia conflicts issues? Regards, --Kober 17:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Kober. Georgianis | (t) 21:32, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Bonaparte