User talk:Alphachimp

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This talk page is automatically archived by Werdnabot. Any sections older than 2 days are automatically archived to User talk:Alphachimp/Archive 5. Sections without timestamps are not archived. Archives May 2005 - April 2006 May 2006 June 2006 July 2006 August 2006 September 2006 November 2006 Rollback Is that still possible? 'Cuz I'm nowhere near done. Marc Shepherd 20:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC) Thanks for the help. I copied your monobook.js, but I don't seem to have the rollback function. I noticed that when I click on the link for the godmode-light script, a dialog box says I don't have the security clearance to download that script. Marc Shepherd 20:51, 16 August 2006 (UTC) I did copy your monobook.js. Also exited the browser and restarted. However, I'm using IE at the moment; I don't know if that makes a difference. A bunch of other new functions have shown up -- so I know the copy worked -- but I'm not seeing a "rollback" link (or anything like that) next to each contribution. Marc Shepherd 21:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC) Do we know how to turn that bot off? I've reached the point where I'm rolling back changes for the second time. Marc Shepherd 21:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC) No problem. I think what happened is that when I first started reverting these pages, it was still running. If it's off now, then no worries. Marc Shepherd 21:10, 16 August 2006 (UTC) location of items on talk page. Thanks for the tip: I never really knew what the standard was for adding items to someone's talk page. . . --Cassavau 21:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC) Mighty Rubber Duck File:Mightyrubberduck.jpg Since I won't be around tomorrow when your RfA ends, I'm going to give you the Mighty Rubber Duck as a gesture of congratulations (as there's no way in hell it will fail now, barring some catastrophe). :) -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 22:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC) Cydebot It gets curiouser and curiouser. If you look here, you'll see that Cyde sought approval for his bot on three separate occasions. On the third occasion, when he wanted to use it for "subst'ing" templates, he encountered substantial opposition, and that proposal was supposed to operate only in the user space. I generally assume good faith, but when he says on his talk page, "I don't keep track of this bureaucratic stuff," I have to wonder how true that could be. A look at the bot approval discussion archives shows that he comments vociferously on his own proposals, as well as other people's. I'd say he's keeping track of this bureaucratic stuff rather closely. Marc Shepherd 02:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC) It seems to be a fairly consistent theme that when people object to what he is doing, he replies that they don't "really know how this works," although an explanation of how it does work is never forthcoming. Marc Shepherd 15:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC) Watch your comments I'm shocked that you don't understand how annoying, incivil, and frankly insulting it is to accuse someone of acting in bad faith when they are making a good faith effort to bring something to discussion. I highly recommend that you moderate your comments. --Cyde Weys 15:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC) I feel that it was certainly in bad faith to nominate this, given your recent actions regarding WP:NYCS and your conduct regarding the bot issue. I'd welcome the comment of others, and I suggest you avoid civility issues and personal attacks. alphaChimp laudare 16:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC) It's also entirely unacceptable to characterize the TFD process as simply a courtesy. Were you planning on deleting the template yourself? alphaChimp laudare 16:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC) Ooooh, you want to play wikilawyer, let's play wikilawyer. Number one, it is an utter violation of WP:AGF to explicitly accuse someone of acting in bad faith. There are some things all experienced Wikipedians just know, including Never cite WP:IAR to justify your actions and Never accuse someone of acting in bad faith. Criticize their actions if their actions are wrong, but you can can't ever divine the reasoning behind someone's actions. Here's what it looks like from my point of view: I did something that turned out to be more controversial than I had thought, so I next did the most logical thing: I generate a discussion at WP:TFD. That makes sense, right? Weren't you annoyed that I originally did the stuff without discussion? So why in the hell are you going to bad mouth me when I do seek out discussion? It's almost as if you can't defend the templates on their own merits, so you have to resort to personal attacks against the person trying to get rid of them. As for accusing me of incivility, get over yourself. My angry reaction is more than justified by your attempts to dismiss as acting in bad faith. Casting aspersions on someone's motives are far more serious than saying a few "rude" words. I don't particularly mind if you call me a douche but I do take offense if you're trying to say I'm consciously doing actions that I know aren't in the good of the encyclopedia. --Cyde Weys 16:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC) I always try to assume good faith, but these actions have gone beyond a reasonable point. Do you assume good faith in others? I'm not going to let this deteriorate into personal attacks or any incivility on my part, so I'll just leave it at that. alphaChimp laudare 17:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC) How would you feel if you were doing something that you thought were in the best interests of the encyclopedia, but instead of someone engaging you in any substantive discussion, they just wrote you off as "acting in bad faith"? --Cyde Weys 17:14, 17 August 2006 (UTC) If it was pointed out to me that I was running a bot for unapproved tasks, I'd apologize and take it to WP:BRFA, rather than just writing the issue off as wikilawyering/buerocracy and pursuing alternate means of removing the template (but just as a "courtesy"). Coincidentally, I did attempt to engage you in discussion regarding both issues, yet you have written off both of my lines of thought. alphaChimp laudare 17:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC) You seem to think I'm operating under some sort of grudge against these templates and that I will do whatever is necessary to murder them. I'm not. It is of my opinion, for reasons I have already enumerated, that the encyclopedia would be better off without the existence of templates that do simple text substitution. Getting rid of them outright didn't work because it ended up being more controversial than I had anticipated. Now, mind you, I still think the encyclopedia would be better off without them, so my next step was to go to WP:TFD, where I whould have started had I realized how big of a mess this was going to turn into. Do you understand now where I'm coming from? --Cyde Weys 17:42, 17 August 2006 (UTC) And I'm sorry if my original response to your accusations of bad faith on my part was a bit rude, but you must understand how much that hurt me. I'm a huge supporter of Wikipedia. I spent the August 3-7 in Boston at Wikimania discussing ways to make Wikipedia better with a bunch of other people. I put in many hours a week doing thankless maintenace tasks like CFD and RFD. I put my ass on the line (and have pages on Wikipedia Review and Encyclopedia Dramatica to prove it) to deal with disruptive trolls and vandals. Nobody can possibly claim that I don't care about this project and that I'm not consciously acting in what I believe are in the best interests of the project. So, please, put yourself in my shoes, and ask yourself how you would feel if someone accused you of acting in bad faith. --Cyde Weys 17:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC) Cyde, I understand your points and I appreciate you bringing them to me like that. Although I personally disagree, I understand how something would happen in that sequence. It's obvious to me that you contribute a lot to the boring and thankless maintenance tasks. I respect the length of time you've spent here, and that you attended Wikimania (I was unable to attend for financial reasons, but listened online). The thing that really, really troubled me about this situation, and that of the bot, was that I felt you were not listening to what others were saying. It seemed like to had a single objective (no NYCS templates) and you were driving towards it without listening to others. I'll be honest - I feel very strongly about bots running without task approval. We get a lot of requests over at WP:BRFA that are patently absurd and unreasonable. Sometimes the bot already has flag. The damage of those bots running free would be unimaginable. Legitimate bot users requesting approval serves to bring attention to and legitimize the process, which is a policy. The approvals process is designed to predict and prevent disagreements like the one over subst'ing the templates, and protect us from the arduous reversion of bot actions (as I said, Marc spent 5 hours). I see now that you were acting in good faith, I just wonder whether that is totally clear to the outside observer. I try really hard to assume good faith, but unilateral actions really frustrate me. I realize that this is an encyclopedia more than it is a community, but I feel that before making any large scale edit that's beyond an simple fix, we ought to consult with others. It was that quick push through all of our articles that really alarmed me. To sum up, I am very frustrated with the approach you took, would like you to request bot task approval, and realize looking back that your edits were not in bad faith (although they appeared so at the time). alphaChimp laudare 20:37, 17 August 2006 (UTC) For your Antivandal efforts The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar Alphachimp you have helped to defend this Wiki with a zeal that is unmatched. On behalf of the Wikipedia Commounity I Aeon award you the Defender Barnstar Æon Insane Ward 03:09, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Calm now Alpha you get the new tools soon! LOL Can;t wait to see what happens to the first vandal that crosses your path. ok I enjoy vandal hunting a lot! Æon Insane Ward 03:15, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Helpme Template This is probably a bit of cabin fevor or me talking through my exhaustion, so I apologize in advance. Is there any way for me to get in touch with a crat to close my current RfA? I imagine I could go out and find some link or IRC channel, but my head's practically in the keyboard. I'm very tired Thanks and Regards, alphaChimp laudare 05:47, 18 August 2006 (UTC) I'll ask around on IRC. Other than that you helluva passed -- congratulations! =D Luna Santin 05:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Oh, thank God -- I was worried for you there, Chimp. Close, close race. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 05:50, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Thanks for the help guys =). alphaChimp laudare 05:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC) I'd probably be better served by going to sleep, and I'm going to do that right...now. alphaChimp laudare 06:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Night buddy, I'll follow up on your RfA now also - tomorrow's a big day for you! Congrats once again!! - GIen 06:22, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Congratulations Party Hi there Alphachimp. A pre-emptive congratulations before I knock off for the day. A special edition bucket of vanilla ice cream and a can of coke to refuel you before the debut bout of administrative work. Congratulations again. Blnguyen | rant-line 07:31, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Is that can of coke taller than what we have in America? Or is the picture skwooshed? BTW, congrats. - CrazyRussian talk/email 13:54, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Congratulations You're now an admin, so use the new tools wisely to help make this a better place. Use them conservatively, especially at first and re-read the policy before doing anything non-obvious. But as you get comfortable, dig in to help out with the backlogs. I'm sure you'll do fine, so have fun. Again, congrats. - Taxman Talk 12:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Congratulations! --james(talk) 13:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Congratulations from me too, Alphachimp. Use the tools for the good! :-) SlimVirgin (talk) 13:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Pile-on congrats! Dude, you're going to be a kick-ass admin. 'Nuff said. --AbsolutDan (talk) 13:14, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Congratulations! Now get to work! :p Pacific Coast Highway (blah • I'm a hot toe picker) 13:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Ditto, ditto... :) --Tyrenius 14:25, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Congrats, dude. You've been helpful and supportive in the past, and I thought you were already an admin, probably because you command respect with your behavior. You da chimp! Crockspot 14:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Much congratulations! (I knew you would pass. Who didn't?) Kalani [talk] 16:15, 18 August 2006 (UTC) <insert ditto marks here> --WillMak050389 06:12, 19 August 2006 (UTC) Congratulations! You now have the mop. I know you'll use it wisely. Brian 14:44, 18 August 2006 (UTC)btball Congrats form Aeon Congrats Alpha! Æon Insane Ward 15:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC) 'Grats Congratulations. Don't forget about us little people! -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:16, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Inside-Out Shirt Day Why did you delete this entry? I realize it was a stub, but it's an actual event. Perhaps I'm missing something? coyote 20:32, 18 August 2006 (UTC) Congratulations Congratulations on making administrator.I'm surprised you weren't nominated earlier but I'm sure you'll do a good job SOADLuver 00:43, 19 August 2006 (UTC) Hey could you look at this? Hey Alpha, sorry to bother you with this but Mortin Devenshire is having an issue with another user. If you could (When you have time) take a look at this page and see if myself and Tbetty are mistaken that would be fine. Mortin is being acused of Sockpuppetering. Links Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Morton devonshire Thanks Æon Insane Ward 01:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC) Thanks Alpha! But there is now a civility issue on that page. Æon Insane Ward 02:04, 19 August 2006 (UTC) Welcome message I notice that you have been replacing the welcome tag with a message that is the same. What is the point of that? --WikiCats 02:19, 19 August 2006 (UTC) Speedy Deletions I am glad that you are staying busy with the CSDs. I do not like to create backlogs, because they can be hard to clean up. But, on the other hand, useless redirects are an eyesore so I sent them to be removed. I am watching carefully what I send to CSD, because sometimes people don't necessarily agree with my reasons. Thanks again for helping keep the site clean and running efficiently. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 03:27, 19 August 2006 (UTC) Infobox Hey, I noticed you removed the speedy tag I put on above article. It's a perfectly valid reason - I thought of that about five minutes after I put the tag on - but if the original redirect was deleted for violating WP:ASR, then wouldn't it be even worse to make an actual article about it? Just a thought. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 04:13, 19 August 2006 (UTC) Yeah, you're right, I was just trying to bring a little IAR into it. ;) Oh, well, I'll prod it. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 04:18, 19 August 2006 (UTC) Impersonator Looks like the Alpha Phi Alpha vandal has decided to impersonate you by leaving a vandalism warning on my talk page with your sig [1]. Just an FYI. | Mr. Darcy talk 04:17, 19 August 2006 (UTC) A smile for you... Michael has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing! Yessh! Welcome to the shiny button club! I know you're going to be an awesome admin, btw, thanks for the well wishing. =) Yanksox 14:42, 19 August 2006 (UTC) exalted (the band)....deleting the article...... im new to this and i just wanted to add information about the band to document their existence. am i suppossed to send in recorded materials as evidence or something?? thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordAzog (talk • contribs) Edwardspec TalkBot Well, the bot was running some sort of home-made interwiki-script, operating on all languages, on most under the ip of the toolserver. The bot was sometimes just moving the interwiki-links without reason, [2], adding incorrect interwikis [3], and removing correct interwikis [4]. All of this happened continiously (so it are not a few single errors), and there was also no response on his russian talk page (ru:Обсуждение участника:Edward Chernenko). --Tuvic 22:21, 19 August 2006 (UTC) Hi, I meant to leave a message on WP:AIV to let you know that I was taking care of it, and what was wrong with the edits, but the mass rollback sort of took control over FireFox :) Anyway, all sorted out now. Kind regards, --JoanneB 22:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC) Ok, thanks to you all. --Tuvic 22:35, 19 August 2006 (UTC) Articles for CSD There are several articles that meed CSD R1, but they are fully protected, and I need your help. The pages are: Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse (image free) Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse/pictures suppressed Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse (safe) Pokerealm Server Phoicts I wanted to ask you about this since I am sure that you would gladly help me with my request. Thanks, --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 22:59, 19 August 2006 (UTC) Philbarbeau's page Alphachimp Thanks for the reply, but I still can't get my info to post when I wiki My name? Can you please help. Thanks and holla from Canada! Phil. Enlighter1 socks Thanks for helping fight the vandalism of this really annoying user and his sockpuppets. Much appreciated. Thistheman 02:03, 20 August 2006 (UTC) 9/11 Vandal Gotta love those indef blocks. Thanks - it's been a busy night. A lot of bored school kids working on their first week's assignments I guess. Rklawton 02:11, 20 August 2006 (UTC) I'm telling Chris right now! You know what!? You out of it! I'm telling Chris, and he will rip you apart! —Mariusz Zielinski 02:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC) You smell like doo doo! You stink!