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On this page, the deletion or merging of templates, except as noted below, is discussed. To propose the renaming of a template or templates, use Wikipedia:Requested moves.

How to use this page[edit]

What not to propose for discussion here[edit]

The majority of deletion and merger proposals concerning pages in the template namespace should be listed on this page. However, there are a few exceptions:

  • Stub templates
    Stub templates and categories should be listed at Categories for discussion, as these templates are merely containers for their categories, unless the stub template does not come with a category and is being nominated by itself.
  • Userboxes
    Userboxes should be listed at Miscellany for deletion, regardless of the namespace in which they reside.
  • Speedy deletion candidates
    If the template clearly satisfies a "general" or "template" criterion for speedy deletion, tag it with a speedy deletion template. For example, if you wrote the template and request its deletion, tag it with {{Db-author}}. If it is an unused, hardcoded instance or duplication of another template, tag it with {{Db-t3|~~~~~|name of other template}}.
  • Policy or guideline templates
    Templates that are associated with particular Wikipedia policies or guidelines, such as the speedy deletion templates, cannot be listed at Tfd separately. They should be discussed on the talk page of the relevant guideline.
  • Template redirects
    List at Redirects for discussion.

Reasons to delete a template[edit]

  1. The template violates some part of the template namespace guidelines, and can't be altered to be in compliance
  2. The template is redundant to a better-designed template
  3. The template is not used, either directly or by template substitution (the latter cannot be concluded from the absence of backlinks), and has no likelihood of being used
  4. The template violates a policy such as Neutral point of view or Civility and it can't be fixed through normal editing

Templates should not be nominated if the issue can be fixed by normal editing. Instead, you should edit the template to fix its problems. If the template is complex and you don't know how to fix it, WikiProject Templates may be able to help.

Templates for which none of these apply may be deleted by consensus here. If a template is being misused, consider clarifying its documentation to indicate the correct use, or informing those that misuse it, rather than nominating it for deletion. Initiate a discussion on the template talk page if the correct use itself is under debate.

Listing a template[edit]

To list a template for deletion or merging, follow this three-step process. Note that the "Template:" prefix should not be included anywhere when carrying out these steps (unless otherwise specified).

I Tag the template.
Add one of the following codes to the top of the template page:
  • If the template nominated is inline, do not add a newline between the Tfd notice and the code of the template.
  • If the template to be nominated for deletion is protected, make a request for the Tfd tag to be added, by posting on the template's talk page and using the {{editprotected}} template to catch the attention of administrators.
  • For templates designed to be substituted, add <noinclude>...</noinclude> around the Tfd notice to prevent it from being substituted alongside the template.
  • Do not mark the edit as minor.
  • Use an edit summary like
    Nominated for deletion; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]]
    or
    Nominated for merging; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]].
  • Before saving your edit, preview your edit to ensure the Tfd message is displayed properly.

Multiple templates: If you are nominating multiple related templates, choose a meaningful title for the discussion (like "American films by decade templates"). Tag every template with {{subst:tfd|heading=discussion title}} or {{subst:tfm|name of other template|heading=discussion title}} instead of the versions given above, replacing discussion title with the title you chose (but still not changing the PAGENAME code). Note that TTObot is available to tag templates en masse if you do not wish to do it manually.

Related categories: If including template-populated tracking categories in the Tfd nomination, add {{Catfd|template name}} to the top of any categories that would be deleted as a result of the Tfd, this time replacing template name with the name of the template being nominated. (If you instead chose a meaningful title for a multiple nomination, use {{Catfd|header=title of nomination}} instead.)

II List the template at Tfd.
Follow this link to edit today's Tfd log.

Add this text at the top, just below the -->:

  • For deletion:
    {{subst:tfd2|template name|text=Why you think the template should be deleted. ~~~~}}
  • For merging:
    {{subst:tfm2|template name|other template's name|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

If the template has had previous Tfds, you can add {{Oldtfdlist|previous Tfd without brackets|result of previous Tfd}} directly after the Tfd2/Catfd2 template.

Use an edit summary such as
Adding [[Template:template name]].

Multiple templates: If this is a deletion proposal involving multiple templates, use the following:

{{subst:tfd2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be deleted. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ). Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

If this is a merger proposal involving more than two templates, use the following:

{{subst:tfm2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|with=main template (optional)|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ), plus one more in |with=. |with= does not need to be used, but should be the template that you want the other templates to be merged into. Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

Related categories: If this is a deletion proposal involving a template and a category populated solely by templates, add this code after the Tfd2 template but before the text of your rationale:

{{subst:catfd2|category name}}
III Notify users.
Please notify the creator of the template nominated (as well as the creator of the target template, if proposing a merger). It is helpful to also notify the main contributors of the template that you are nominating. To find them, look in the page history or talk page of the template. Then, add one of the following:

to the talk pages of the template creator (and the creator of the other template for a merger) and the talk pages of the main contributors. It is also helpful to make any interested WikiProjects aware of the discussion. To do that, make sure the template's talk page is tagged with the banners of any relevant WikiProjects; please consider notifying any of them that do not use Article alerts.

Multiple templates: There is no template for notifying an editor about a multiple-template nomination: please write a personal message in these cases.

Consider adding any templates you nominate for Tfd to your watchlist. This will help ensure that the Tfd tag is not removed.

After nominating: Notify interested projects and editors[edit]

While it is sufficient to list a template for discussion at TfD (see above), nominators and others sometimes want to attract more attention from and participation by informed editors. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing.

To encourage participation by less experienced editors, please avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations in the messages you leave about the discussion, link to any relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the TfD discussion page itself. If you are recommending that an template be speedily deleted, please give the criterion that it meets, such as "T3" for hardcoded instances.

Notifying related WikiProjects

WikiProjects are groups of editors that are interested in a particular subject or type of editing. If the article is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, they may welcome a brief, neutral note on their project's talk page(s) about the TfD. You can use {{Tfdnotice}} for this.

Tagging the nominated template's talk page with a relevant Wikiproject's banner will result in the template being listed in that project's Article Alerts automatically, if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a template with {{WikiProject Physics}} will list the discussion in Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.

Notifying substantial contributors to the template

While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the template and its talkpage that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, look in the page history or talk page.

At this point, you've done all you need to do as nominator. Sometime after seven days have passed, someone will either close the discussion or, where needed, "relist" it for another seven days of discussion. (That "someone" may not be you, the nominator.)

Once you have submitted a template here, no further action is necessary on your part. If the nomination is supported, helpful administrators and editors will log the result and ensure that the change is implemented to all affected pages.

Also, consider adding any templates you nominate to your watchlist. This will help ensure that your nomination tag is not mistakenly or deliberately removed.

Twinkle[edit]

Twinkle is a convenient tool that can perform many of the functions of notification automatically. However, at present, it does not notify the creator of the other template in the case of a merger, so this step has to be performed manually. Twinkle also does not notify WikiProjects, although many of them have automatic alerts. It is helpful to notify any interested WikiProjects that don't receive alerts, but this has to be done manually.

Discussion[edit]

Anyone can join the discussion, but please understand the deletion policy and explain your reasoning.

People will sometimes also recommend subst or subst and delete and similar. This means the template text should be "merged" into the articles that use it. Depending on the content, the template page may then be deleted; if preserving the edit history for attribution is desirable, it may be history-merged with the target article or moved to mainspace and redirected.

Templates are rarely orphaned—that is, removed from pages that transclude them—before the discussion is closed. A list of open discussions eligible for closure can be found at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Old unclosed discussions.

Contents

Current discussions[edit]

December 16[edit]

Template:Historical information needed[edit]

Propose merging Template:Historical information needed with Template:Recentism.
I don't see a difference between this and the more popular {{Recentism}}. Let's just merge them.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  03:31, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Listplayer[edit]

Unused, no incoming links, no talk page. No explanation of its purpose, tho it appears to be sport-related. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:23, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:BDMI[edit]

A flat list of brands in the form of a template. All individuals are nn. The template comes across as possibly promotional, as the only purpose appears cross-linking all of the investments by Bertelsmann#Bertelsmann_Investments, which strikes me as not suitable for a template. The companies are not related apart from having received an investment from the same source. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:09, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

December 15[edit]

Template:Gal Level[edit]

No directly related articles to have any navigational benefit. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 23:04, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:S-line/OASA Metro right/M5[edit]

still in the planning phase with no estimated time of completion Frietjes (talk) 17:04, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Jordan Governorates image map[edit]

unused, duplicates the map already in Governorates of Jordan Frietjes (talk) 16:29, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Admittedly the one in the article doesn't have the names on it. However someone seems to have broken the links on the map along the way. --Erp (talk) 02:21, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kolkata Metro Line 2 diagram[edit]

unused, replaced by Template:Kolkata Metro Line 2 Route Frietjes (talk) 16:28, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:KTMK stations[edit]

unused Frietjes (talk) 16:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:K League Challenge venues[edit]

unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 16:26, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:K class ferry[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was deleted per G7 by RHaworth. The Bushranger One ping only 20:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

unused, all the sub-articles redirect to K-class ferry and are included in Template:BC Ferries. Frietjes (talk) 16:24, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

    • As the creator and (aside from minor syntax tweaks and this nom) sole contributor, this can go ahead and be nuked (G7 speedy). - The Bushranger One ping only 20:02, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Template:Karnataka Districts Labelled Map[edit]

unused. could be used in List of districts of Karnataka, but we don't need a template for a single transclusion. Frietjes (talk) 16:16, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kartographer WLM pin[edit]

unused Frietjes (talk) 16:15, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi, it is currently in use as example for the bug phab:T168601 and it cannot be replicated without example in enwiki because system use enwiki as a backend rendering system. Least i think that is the case. After bug is resolved template can be deleted. And yes, this should be said in the template too and template should be renamed to better name. --Zache (talk) 16:19, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Case example how to see the bug. Go to page fi:template:MapFrame/Seminaarinmäen rakennukset-WLM, click the map so it will open, then click the pin. Then you have popup where template is rendered. --Zache (talk) 16:22, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
@Frietjes:  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  03:39, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kashmir/Categories[edit]

unused copy of Template:Jammu and Kashmir topics Frietjes (talk) 16:14, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kasich16[edit]

unused with no clear purpose Frietjes (talk) 16:14, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Katakana table/Cell[edit]

not used by Template:Katakana table Frietjes (talk) 16:13, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kawasaki motorcycles (1990s)[edit]

unused fork of Template:Kawasaki motorcycles Frietjes (talk) 16:12, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kawasaki watercraft[edit]

all redlinks and redirects Frietjes (talk) 16:10, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kelantan F.A. squad[edit]

unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 16:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kenyan politics/party colours/Party of National Unity (Kenya)[edit]

unused and duplicates {{Party of National Unity (Kenya)/meta/color}} Frietjes (talk) 15:07, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kiryat Motzkin – Haifa line[edit]

unused with no parent article (as far as I can tell) Frietjes (talk) 14:33, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kirklees Lines[edit]

unused and not clear where it would be used Frietjes (talk) 14:31, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kiribatian presidential election, 2012[edit]

unused and redundant to the table in Kiribati presidential election, 2012 Frietjes (talk) 14:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kiribati presidential election, 2003[edit]

unused and redundant to the table in Kiribati presidential election, July 2003 Frietjes (talk) 14:29, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kintetsu lines/branches[edit]

unused Frietjes (talk) 14:28, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kings of Bhutan[edit]

unused and generally redundant to the succession links at the foot of the individual king articles Frietjes (talk) 14:28, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Weak keep I'm not seeing another place where the kings are neatly listed. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  03:34, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kings Regiment history[edit]

unused and generally redundant to navigation found in Template:Regiments of Foot Frietjes (talk) 14:26, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kingdom of Yugoslavia 1929-1939 map[edit]

unused and redundant to the map in the article Frietjes (talk) 14:25, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Khowar alphabet shapes[edit]

unused Frietjes (talk) 14:22, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kingdom of Bhurishrestha[edit]

unused Frietjes (talk) 14:21, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:L2/core[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was speedy delete. author request —Kusma (t·c) 15:46, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

replaced by Template:L1/core Frietjes (talk) 14:19, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

  • {{G7}}'d as author. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 15:40, 15 December 2017 (UTC).
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Template:L/core[edit]

not used by Template:L and redundant to Template:L1/core. Frietjes (talk) 14:17, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Khyber Pakhtunkhwa key wildlife 2[edit]

unused, redundant to <gallery>...</gallery> Frietjes (talk) 14:13, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Bot blocked[edit]

Unused, largely redundant to {{Bots}}.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  05:41, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Keep completely different. The purpose is to allow a bot to efficiently log failed edits on-wiki - these can fail due to the {{bots}} template, page protection or other reasons. this is potentially important to allow human consideration of the issues involved. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 10:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC).
  • delete or move to userspace; unused outside of the author's own userspace. Frietjes (talk) 14:11, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

December 14[edit]

Template:FIS Speed Skiing World Cup seasons[edit]

unused and almost all redlinks Frietjes (talk) 23:11, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:FIFA World Cup Country record[edit]

unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 23:11, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup Finals[edit]

unused and redundant to navigation found in Template:FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup Frietjes (talk) 23:10, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:FFCOTF article[edit]

old and unused (could be moved to a subpage of Wikipedia:Final Fantasy Collaboration of the Fortnight if it's important to keep it) Frietjes (talk) 23:09, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:FC Ripensia Timișoara squad[edit]

unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 23:08, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:FC Oleksandriya[edit]

unused and not needed (has the wrong prefix for the fb template system) Frietjes (talk) 23:08, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:FC DAC 1904 Dunajská Streda[edit]

unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 23:07, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:FC Arsenal-2 Tula squad[edit]

unused and blanked by primary contibutor Frietjes (talk) 23:05, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:F1 rejects original drivers[edit]

all redlinks Frietjes (talk) 23:04, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:EventDecadesInCenturyCat[edit]

unused Frietjes (talk) 23:02, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:EuropeLargestCities[edit]

unused, no parent article Frietjes (talk) 23:01, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Europe Pacific Rugby Trophy[edit]

all red links Frietjes (talk) 23:00, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Ethiopia squad 2012 African Women's Championship[edit]

unused, all redlinks, and squad membership is already in 2012 African Women's Championship squads Frietjes (talk) 22:58, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:English vowel development, foreign sources[edit]

unused; should be added to an article or deleted Frietjes (talk) 22:57, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:England national man football team results[edit]

unused and redundant to navigation provided within {{England national football team}} Frietjes (talk) 22:56, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Endurance/out[edit]

unused subtemplate after refactoring of the parent template (and changes to {{convert}}) Frietjes (talk) 22:53, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Encode[edit]

unused, replaced by more specific date parser functions and templates Frietjes (talk) 22:50, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Election box unrecorded[edit]

unused, most likely replaced by other more general election box templates Frietjes (talk) 22:38, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Eidi-century-range[edit]

unused, so presumably not needed for any of the other Eidi templates Frietjes (talk) 22:36, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Education noticeboard navbox[edit]

unused, archives are using {{archives}} instead. Frietjes (talk) 22:33, 14 December 2017 (UTC) Frietjes (talk) 22:33, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Mainstream R&B/Hip-Hop[edit]

unused Frietjes (talk) 22:25, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Apple Specialists[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete per author approval Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

As template creator. Apple recently has established a new category, eliminating calling this sort of retailer "specialist." My intention was to find these specialists across the country and write about notable ones. This didn't work out... BusterD (talk) 19:36, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

  • you could probably have this speedy deleted using {{db-author}}. as far as I can tell you are the only substantial contributor to the template. Frietjes (talk) 20:13, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete - It's redundant to Category:Apple Specialists. I added a list of notable ones to the article's contents. Warren -talk- 20:46, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Template:Infobox algiz[edit]

single-use infoboxes which can be merged with the parent articles (now that I have migrated them to use {{infobox rune}}). Frietjes (talk) 18:20, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

    • please do not delete, but if necessary turn into redirect, in order to preserve edit history! --dab (𒁳) 22:10, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Warped Tour[edit]

Not enough active links to warrant a navbox. --woodensuperman 16:49, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete - This template is full of red links. Nav templates are for navigating between Wikipedia articles that already exist -- otherwise, it's not really a nav template, is it? Warren -talk- 20:40, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Ahnentafel bottom[edit]

Propose merging Template:Ahnentafel bottom with Template:Ahnentafel-compact5.
Suggest merging all preexisting templates in Category:Ahnentafel formatting templates into Template:Ahnentafel-compact5 (please note that the ones listed in the category but not here below were locked for unknown reasons). The final template would then be called perhaps simply Template:Ahnentafel. Reasons for this merge is that it should be possibly to merge with code into one single, unified template. This template would then possibly contain different amount of places - ergo generations - as is already the case, only that this could be indicated and visually exemplified in the template documentation in a more suitable way. This solution of one merged template would make only one such be the subject of discussion of style - arguably the preexisting one - which would then make biographical articles more consistent, and the template use more easy for Wikipedians to apply. Chicbyaccident (talk) 13:20, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

comment How do you suggest to make the new template easy-to-use? It sounds like you want one template. It seems quite easy to use e.g. {{Ahnentafel-compact4}} and {{Ahnentafel-compact4}}. Christian75 (talk) 12:11, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merging all of the template nominations together due to a) no comments on the other nominations, and b) they all said "see above"
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 01:16, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
Keep (do not merge) - It's easy enough to use the different templates. This is not a system that needs to be fixed. Also, no working template (with working example) has been proposed to replace these templates. - tucoxn\talk 14:46, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
Keep but feel free to create the single template and re-propose merging. I don't think we should agree to delete the current ones until the new one is ready and testable. --Bermicourt (talk) 20:54, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
Question If all of these templates are going to be deleted, then who will be in charge of going through each page and reinstating the preferred template with all of the correct information.--MorrisIV (talk) 01:57, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Keep Don't fix it if it ain't broken. SpartaN (talk) 04:19, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Keep unless you can create a robot that will convert all existing pages using this. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Kim Hee-chul[edit]

These templates are duplicates of each other. The inclusion of the subject's filmography violates WP:FILMNAV. This leaves the discography and publications sections; none of the topics have articles, so there is nothing to link. This leaves little to navigate, and is ultimately useless. xplicit 06:09, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 01:15, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete both of them. Sawol (talk) 04:26, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:CC BY-ND 2.5 IN[edit]

This Creative Commons license has a restriction on derivative works making any file uploaded with this license eligible for WP:F3 aside from usage as non-free content. In the rare case that a file with such a license is being used as non-free content, the existing copyright templates are sufficient for licensing and documentation. As such, there is no real use for this template. Whpq (talk) 01:06, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Those rare case when a Fair Use image is licensed under CC BY-ND 2.5 IN, we need this template. Hence, do not delete.
Then such a file is non-free, in which case the correct tag to use would be something in Category:Wikipedia non-free file copyright tags -FASTILY 06:33, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 01:14, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Hungama TV Original Series[edit]

Unnecessary, not all shows are Hungama original programming and all aired shows can be found in Wikipedia article "List of programs broadcast by Hungama TV" User 261115 (talk) 13:51, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 00:56, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment. This should probably be trimmed of non-original content first, so we can see what is left. --woodensuperman 16:43, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete. As far as I can make out, the only original content is Hero - Bhakti Hi Shakti Hai. It's the only article that the navbox is transcluded on in any case, so provides negligible navigation. --woodensuperman 16:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Opal fares[edit]

WP:NOTGUIDE and WP:NOTMIRROR. It's essentially content uplifted from the Transport for Sydney website. Even smart card operators in other cities do not have lists of fares on their wikipedia articles. Ajf773 (talk) 19:35, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

  • merge with one of the two transcluding articles, and use WP:LST or simple section linking to show/link in the other. Frietjes (talk) 15:03, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
    The discussion is for deletion, not merging. Wikipedia is not the place for details about travel fares, the Transport for NSW website is. Ajf773 (talk) 06:15, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
    in that case, keep, used in two articles and merging with the article is not an option. Frietjes (talk) 18:23, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
    Keep on what basis? There is no place for listing travel guide content on Wikipedia. Ajf773 (talk) 19:17, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
    used in two articles and merging with the article is not an option Frietjes (talk) 20:44, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
    So what if it's used in two articles. Templates can be discussed for deletion whether or not they are currently in use and can be removed from articles pending consensus outcome. Ajf773 (talk) 21:07, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
    then remove the tables from the articles after which the templates will no longer be needed. Frietjes (talk) 21:56, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
    Perhaps I will. Although it shouldn't matter whether that happens before or after the debate. Ajf773 (talk) 22:50, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 00:52, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

December 13[edit]

Template:City of Angels soundtrack[edit]

A track listing for a various artists compilation album is not a suitable topic for a navbox. Songs/artists have nothing in common with each other other than their appearance here. --woodensuperman 14:41, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete, this is the sort of information that belongs in an article's body, not as a nav template. Warren -talk- 15:21, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Only a couple of the songs that have articles were even written for the film. Actual usefulness of this navbox is quite limited. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:35, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Star Wars film navigational boxes[edit]

Unnecessary excessive duplicate navigation. There is a main {{Star Wars}} navbox, plus navboxes for {{Star Wars characters}}, {{Star Wars music}}, {{Star Wars planets and moons}}, {{Star Wars vehicles}}, etc, etc, etc. We don't need one for each film as well, which duplicates the characters (have a look at the R2-D2 page to see why this is a problem), locations, ships, etc, etc. --woodensuperman 13:56, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete, per nom.— TAnthonyTalk 15:39, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
  • delete, better to use the other navboxes. Frietjes (talk) 22:56, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete, looks like a case of someone not understanding what navigation templates are for. The editor who created these templates hasn't really done much else on Wikipedia except for create these templates and insert them into dozens of articles. Warren -talk- 15:18, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
  • If you mean user Dmoon1, who created the early templates in 2006, not true. He or she, who hasn't edited since 2009, seems like they were a very active editor in many subject areas. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:24, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
  • I think Warren was talking about Qäsee, who created the last four templates on this list (the most recent). This editor is indeed persistent with crufty templates, categories, and article content (and no edit summaries, EVER), but in this case there was a seven-film precedent of existing templates before he/she started creating and implementing them.— TAnthonyTalk 15:46, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete, agree with nom. No need for these individual nav templates for each film when the other Star Wars templates cover everything. - Brojam (talk) 06:12, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep for now (struck per reply), the claim is that everything on these templates is a duplicate, a very quick look at just the first template brings up Han shot first. Where else is this listed? And this would give deletionists the "reason" to remove Star Wars templates from individual books, fan films, etc. with the claim that items on lists aren't actually listed on the templates (a Catch-22 of a reason that they somehow got into the guidelines as 'biodirectional' or something), so this could mean a mass removal of any Star Wars templates from articles. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Anything like this that is not in another navbox could be added to the main {{Star Wars}} navbox, or one of the other navboxes if this is more appropriate. Books and fan films, etc, already have dedicated navboxes. I've just spotted that Star Wars Uncut also isn't on another navbox, this would appropriately be added to {{Unofficial Star Wars media}}. --woodensuperman 12:08, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Okay, and good find on the uncut film. I'll put the 'Han shot first' page on the main template and see what occurs (EDIT: It fits well as a subsection). Randy Kryn (talk) 12:23, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for catching these wayward links, there shouldn't be (m)any more!— TAnthonyTalk 15:35, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
I think the only other one is Star Wars: Behind the Magic. Video games or main template? --woodensuperman 16:09, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
And what does anyone think of re-purposing {{Star Wars planets and moons}} to {{Star Wars locations}} so we can add Mos Eisley and Mos Eisley Cantina there rather than the main template? --woodensuperman 16:11, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Nah, the planets and moons is a well-defined topic. Mos Eisley Cantina seems iconic enough to belong on the main template. In fact, there are only 11 entries on the Planets and moons template, why not bring those to the main and jettison that one too so the planets and moon articles can have the main template and not a small limited one. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:PKNA[edit]

The navbox is no longer necessary as all the links now redirect to a non-existent section that was culled for being fancruft. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:44, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete. Useless navbox, as each link redirects back to the main article. JIP | Talk 08:50, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
  • delete, all redirects. Frietjes (talk) 22:55, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete. Useless. --woodensuperman 14:02, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete. All the links are redirects. - tucoxn\talk 14:50, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Strong delete Hilariously useless obsolete FANCRUFT junk. Please delete per snowball clause  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  05:49, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

December 12[edit]

Template:Orlando Predators roster navbox[edit]

team is defunct, there is no current roster Frietjes (talk) 21:51, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:National anthem footer[edit]

Like Template: Chinese history topics (see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 October 28#Template:Chinese history topics), this makes no sense for two reasons. First navigation boxes are for navigating between articles, not templates which are not normally directly linked from articles. Second it violates the principle of least surprise, that readers should not be surprised by where a link takes them. It might make sense as something not included, for navigation between the templates when working on them. But there is already a category for that Category:National anthem templates JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 13:32, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Some nations is inter-continent, and most of the nations in Europe have relationship linking to other continent. So it should not be deleted. Ulysses Faye Ohkiph (talk) 04:05, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
  • delete, or use namespace restriction to have appear only in template space (or only in non-articles). Frietjes (talk) 22:48, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

December 11[edit]

Template:Daerah di Malaysia[edit]

Unused. Maybe it might have a use, but as of now it hasn't. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:40, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Bydgoszcz City Councillors[edit]

Navbox that connects articles deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Members of Bydgoszcz City Council. Renata (talk) 16:52, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete. Few of Bydgoszcz's city councillors qualify for articles on that basis in and of itself — a couple of them do have stronger notability claims, such as actually serving in the Sejm, but nobody would get an article because city councillor in Bydgoszcz per se. So nearly all of the articles have been deleted, and the few that remain aren't enough to warrant a navbox for them. Bearcat (talk) 00:20, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:South Korean awards table[edit]

Propose merging Template:South Korean awards table with Template:Awards table.
The former should be merged into the latter. The only difference between these two templates is the order of the parameters ("Category"/"Award" and "Recipient"/"Nominee/work"). The function between the two is exactly the same. xplicit 07:04, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

December 10[edit]

Template:Taxonomy/Saldamosaurus[edit]

Originally tagged for speedy deletion by @Apokryltaros as a hoax. Would like some community input before deleting. Thanks, FASTILY 20:17, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Please read this --Mr Fink (talk) 20:26, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Taxonomy/Saldamosauridae[edit]

Originally tagged for speedy deletion by @Apokryltaros as a hoax. Would like some community input before deleting. Thanks, FASTILY 20:17, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

comment: This template and Template:Taxonomy/Saldamosaurus (edit · talk · history · links · logs · subpages · delete) were created by a serial hoaxer who has been repeatedly banned at Wikipedia for creating pages, drafts and now templates for fake species and or WP:OR.--Mr Fink (talk) 20:19, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
The articles Saldamosaurus and Saldamosauridae also need to be deleted, for the same reason. Peter coxhead (talk) 21:40, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Members of Dáil Éireann by session header[edit]

Unused, and redundant to the more comprehensive {{Teachtaí Dála category navigation header}}.
This template was created by @Spleodrach back in 2008, when members of Dáil Éireann were categorised only by term. It did its job well for that limited set of categs, but subsequently Teachtaí Dála have also been categorised in other ways, e.g. by party. So I created the more comprehensive {{Teachtaí Dála category navigation header}} and applied it to all senator categs, removing this {{Members of Dáil Éireann by session header}}. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:31, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete - unused and redundant. Spleodrach (talk) 18:16, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Power Macintosh models templates[edit]

Not used, and is an unusually esoteric property to group articles by. Warren -talk- 06:07, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

  • delete, unused and not needed. Frietjes (talk) 22:54, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Timeline of Macintosh OS[edit]

Not used, and is redundant to Template:Timeline of Macintosh operating systems. Warren -talk- 06:07, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

  • delete, very old and unused. Frietjes (talk) 22:54, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

December 9[edit]

Template:Sony franchises[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete as per {{db-author}} Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 06:34, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

This is just Template:Sony Interactive Entertainment Worldwide Studios but it just has the franchises listed, making this completely useless and redundant. Namcokid47 (talk) 20:26, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

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Template:Endurance sports and games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Hyacinth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 00:01, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Could categorize these subjects by this name, but a navbox isn't appropriate. It's not doing anything a category could not, and has no potential to. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 20:11, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

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Template:Members of Seanad Éireann by term header[edit]

Unused, and redundant to the more comprehensive {{Members of Seanad Éireann category navigation header}}.
This template was created by @Spleodrach back in 2008, when members of Seanad Éireann were categorised only by term. It did its job well for that limited set of categs, but subsequently senators have also been categorised by constituency and by party. So I created the more comprehensive {{Members of Seanad Éireann category navigation header}} and applied it to all senator categs, removing this {{Members of Seanad Éireann by term header}}. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:31, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Delete - as it is now redundant. Spleodrach (talk) 13:25, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Wlink[edit]

Unclear use, a similar template was deleted in the past. – Train2104 (t • c) 03:14, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

  • delete, pointless. Frietjes (talk) 12:51, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete, not necessary considering the means of wikilinking it's intended to replace is simpler and more commonly known. Was created by a user who'd only registered for Wikipedia a month earlier and has sparsely edited since. Speaks of a lack of experience in good faith. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 20:14, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:PD-USGov-GPO[edit]

Unused, replaceable by {{PD-USGov}} FASTILY 00:25, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:PD-USGov-Fed[edit]

Unused, replaceable by {{PD-USGov}} FASTILY 00:25, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

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December 8[edit]

Template:Remobox[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G2 by RHaworth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 17:16, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Template serving no apparent specific purpose other than perhaps to promote its author Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:59, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Template:Wuhan Gators[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 05:48, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

connects only two articles Frietjes (talk) 22:15, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Template:LLSWSQualifiers-Pre2001[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 04:03, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

unused and not needed Frietjes (talk) 22:11, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Template:LKL Teams 05/06[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 04:03, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

old and unused navbox (replaced by templates like Template:LKL) Frietjes (talk) 22:10, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Template:LG smartphones[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 04:03, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

unused, and appears to duplicate other templates (e.g., Template:LG phones, Template:Android smartphones, ...) Frietjes (talk) 22:09, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Template:Korea Squad 2014 FIBA World Championship for Women[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 04:03, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

unused, all redlinks, 13th place squad, roster is saved in 2014 FIBA World Championship for Women squads#Korea Frietjes (talk) 22:06, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Template:Koleje Śląskie lines[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 04:03, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

unused (and only two templates in Category:Koleje Śląskie templates) Frietjes (talk) 22:00, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Template:1978–1987 Superman film series[edit]

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Superman in popular media. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 02:07, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Propose merging Template:1978–1987 Superman film series with Template:Superman in popular media.
A lot of the links here are not directly related/do not originate in the film series (characters, locations, etc), so these are not really suitable for inclusion here. If these were to be trimmed, then what we have left could easily be incorporated at {{Superman in popular media}}, if they aren't already. Target could also use some trimming of the parodies, and largely unrelated/tangential entries (Seinfeld, songs which happen to mention Superman etc, etc). --woodensuperman 12:36, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

  • Weak support. It would be best to merge them and then post a permanent link to how big the template is so others can vote with sufficient information. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 05:33, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
Looking at {{Superman in popular media}} more closely, I think the only link I would consider appropriate to add would be Superman III (soundtrack). The rest are either already included, or inappropriate as I note above. With some of the more spurious links removed per my suggestion above, we could be looking at a substantially smaller template anyway. --woodensuperman 14:15, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
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  • Merge, and trim the main template as suggested. Renata (talk) 16:18, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Merge but go easy on the trimming (although yes, music and parodies can probably all be removed). Randy Kryn (talk) 10:28, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Ed Kowalczyk[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:42, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Too little content to navigate. Fold the couple of relevant articles into Template:Live (band)Justin (koavf)TCM 01:50, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete, too little content. Renata (talk) 16:16, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox artist signature[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete feel free to continue the discussion concerning (a) and (b) elsewhere Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:40, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

we should either (a) add a signature parameter to {{infobox artist}}, or (b) don't add signatures to artist infoboxes. either way, we don't need this template to do it. Frietjes (talk) 17:32, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Support the former, (a). This was just a workaround, and Frietjes has shown how to do that better. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:27, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Weak support for (a), just to be consistent with other signature things in bio infoboxes. Many editors are not convinced we should retain them at all. A recent RfC, however, did not conclude with consensus to remove them, so at least do them consistently while they are here.  — SMcCandlish ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ʌ<  15:58, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support (A), signatures are very interesting and relevant additions to some infoboxes. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:30, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Support (b), don't add signatures to artist infoboxes. If a signature is of particular interest, it's better presented in context as in Albrecht Dürer or William-Adolphe Bouguereau; if it's not of particular interest it needn't be given prominent display. An artist's biography usually includes several jpgs of the artist's work, and if the artist signs his/her works the signature can be seen there, which makes the signature in an infobox redundant as well as distracting. Ewulp (talk) 02:07, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Arabic name[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 03:47, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Propose merging Template:Infobox Arabic name with Template:Infobox given name.
Redundancy. Variables should be able to merge. Chicbyaccident (talk) 23:40, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

  • I'm not sure I see the point of the merge as the two templates don't have any overlap: {{Infobox given name}} is the infobox that goes with articles about given names and has fields about the origin, meaning etc. {{Infobox Arabic name}} on the other hand is a sub-box to be tacked to infoboxes about historic Arab personages and its function is to display in a structured way the various component parts of the typically long name. – Uanfala 00:16, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Yuan family tree[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:39, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

unused Frietjes (talk) 17:13, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Template:Wikibookssub[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:39, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

unused Frietjes (talk) 17:11, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:39, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

unused, not clear why we need a template for this since it would violate WP:SIG#NT Frietjes (talk) 17:10, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Template:WEByr[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:39, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

unused, most likely replaced by other cat header templates Frietjes (talk) 17:06, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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