User talk:Marchjuly

Tom and Jerry images

@Marchjuly The images I requested for undeletion, I'm adding to Tom and Jerry articles, so I'm using them. Can I ask just two more images to be undeleted? YoshiFan155 (talk) 06:41, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi YoshiFan155. You can ask for as many images to be undeleted as you want. I was only letting you know that the each use of non-free content such as the files you are requesting to be undeleted must satisfy all 10 non-free content criteria listed at WP:NFCCP. One of these criteria is WP:NFCC#7 which says that non-free file needs to be used in at least one article. Non-free files not being used in any articles are subject to speedy deletion per WP:F5. However, simply adding a file to an article does not mean it still cannot be removed or deleted. There's another non-free content criterion called WP:NFCC#8. This basically says that seeing a non-free image to such has to improve the reader's understanding to such a degree that removing the screenshot would be detrimental to that understanding. Simply adding the screenshot with a caption is not enough; the use of the screenshot should meet the conditions as explained in WP:NFC#Meeting the contextual significance criterion. That can be a hard thing to do, so it would probably be best for you to more clearly show/explain how you intend to use the files when you request undeletion instead of just saying "I want to work on it". If an administrator undeletes a non-free file for you but the same file is subsequently deleted again for WP:NFCC reasons such a not being used in any articles or being used inappropriately in articles, your future undeletion requests are not going to be very well received by other administrators. That is why I suggest you try not to work on getting too many images undeleted at once. Many of these were probably deleted for a good reason. This means you have to clearly demonstrate how circumstances have changed and how you can fix the problems with the file's use so that it's not deleted again. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:02, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

I removed that message because I was trying to show Graeme Bartlett the revision of the pages' deleted history and confirm they're not non-free orphaned images. YoshiFan155 (talk) 04:17, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

You could have added that without removing my post. You may remove posts made by others from your user talk page as explained in WP:UP#CMT if you wish, but you should not do so on article talk pages, or community pages like Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion per WP:TPO unless you have a really sound policy-based reason for doing so. I understand you weren't trying to be disruptive, but you need think really hard before doing so because it could cause problems with other editors. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:21, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Revert of edit on UK 1964 election

I undid your rollback. The picture of Jo Grimond is the same one in use here -- the exact same file -- and you failed to remove it from there. Either finish what you start and provide back up proof of your claims or stand down. Dkendr (talk) 16:35, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dkendr. Although it is impossible to tell from just looking at them, there is a difference in the way some images are licensed for use on Wikipedia. Some images such as File:Harold Wilson Number 10 official.jpg and File:Alec Douglas-Home (c1963).jpg are either in the public domain or are freely licensed, which means their respective use in only subject to WP:IUP. Other files such as File:Jo Grimond.jpg are treated as non-free content, which means that their respective use is also subject to the highly restrictive WP:NFCC in addition to the IUP. I did not remove the file from Jo Grimond because the file has a non-free use rationale for that particular non-free use in that particular article. If you look at the file's page at File:Jo Grimond.jpg#Summary or click on the links I left in my edit sum and carefully read those sections you probably would notice that. Non-free files such as this are generally allowed in biography articles about deceased individuals per No. 10 of WP:NFCI. However, each use of a non-free file is required to staisfy all 10 non-free crtieria listed in WP:NFCCP. This particular use fails WP:NFCC#10c because there is no rationale provided for it for the use in United Kingdom general election, 1964. As it says it WP:NFCCE, "A file with a valid non-free-use rationale for some (but not all) articles it is used in will not be deleted. Instead, the file should be removed from the articles for which it lacks a non-free-use rationale, or a suitable rationale added"; moreover, the burden on providing a suitable rationale falls upon the person wanting to use the image. So, please provide the appropriate rationale if you feel that non-free use is justified. I did not provide the rationale myself because of Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 March 30#File:Clement Davies c1955.jpg where the non-free use of a similar image in a similar article was discused, and the result was that non-free use is only deemed OK in the bio article, not in the individual election articles. Of course, each non-free use is judged independently so it is possible that the circumstances of use of this file in the 1964 article are different enough to allow such use, but I don't think they are. If you feel differently, then (once again) please provide an appropriate rationale for the file's use in the article, add it to the file's page, and then re-add the file to the article. Please note that simply adding a rationale does not automatically make a particular use NFCC compliant, all 10 criteria need to be satisfied, and that any editor can nominate the file for discussion at WP:FFD if they disagree or tagged the file with Template:di-disputed fair use rationale. Anyway, if you're not sure how to do this, then you can ask for help at WP:MCQ or WT:NFCC. Finally, my use of the all caps "THIS" is this edit sum was simply meant for emphasis; I was not trying to shout or express anger, so apologize in advance if it came of as such. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:28, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Tom and Jerry trivia

The trivia section stated on most Tom and Jerry pages in nine years ago and was removed by Edward321 6 years ago. I'm now adding it and don't think it's unsourced. I discussed the issue in Talk:Tom and Jerry