Talk:Glen
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River??
From where does the claim that glen can mean river come from? I've never heard of this. An Muimhneach Machnamhach 16:09, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
This makes no sense. A glen is "anything but a valley"?????LD 01:02, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
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In the dictionary, glen literally means a small, narrow secluded valley. According to a cheap baby-naming book, (from which I was named) it means "From the valley" which is dubious at best. The Irish/Gaelic origin coincides, but the definition doesn't fit at all.
Someone please flag this wikipedia entry as contested. It's certainly wrong. Twisted Wrister 02:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Valley valley
I've removed this sentence:
- The word is sometimes found in tautological placenames where its meaning was opaque to a new linguistic community, an example perhaps being Glendale (literally "valley valley") which is a combination of Norse "dale" and Gaelic "glen".
because when you click on Glendale you get this discordant explanation:
- The Gaelic name, Gleann Daill, is derived from gleann, meaning "valley", which usually refers to a harsher environment that can be steep and/or rocky,[2] and dail meaning "field, dale, meadow, plain or river-meadow", which usually refers to fertile, arable land beside water. The Ordnance Survey (2005) suggest that dail may also mean "level field by a river".[3] This makes the English translation read: "valley of river-meadows" or "valley of level fields by a river".