Talk:J. M. Barrie
![]() | Biography Unassessed | ||||||
|
I believe Barrie's brother David died while young and may have been part of the inspration for Peter. Will verify this and if true add it. Any comments anyone ? Julianp 01:17, 13 May 2004 (UTC)
- David Barrie died in January 1867, and he was the third brother, therefore probably <5 years old (and certainly <7). I think the inspiration part is speculative. - Nunh-huh 01:21, 13 May 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. I know of one commentator who stated that Barrie's mother had once said that David would remain "forever young". If true that would indeed suggest a clear inspiration for Peter. Any info on that one? Julianp 01:37, 13 May 2004 (UTC)
- Drat, now you've made me do research and I have to retract David's age at death, as he was an older brother: killed in a skating accident aged 13. Here's what Andrew Birkin says in J.M. Barrie and the Lost Boys: "Barrie was too young to remember the tragedy with any clarity, his chief memory being that of playing with his younger sister Maggie under the table on which stood David's coffin. For his mother, however, it was a catastrophe beyond belief, and one from which she never fully recovered"..."If Margaret Ogilvy drew a measure of comfort from the notion that David, in dying a boy, would remain a boy for ever, Barrie drew inspiration." So you can safely ascribe the contention that David was an inspiration for Peter to Birkin. - Nunh-huh
- Nice one. My pathetic excuse for not checking it myself is that I have to do some work now and again !!
- Why no mention of Psychogenic_dwarfism? He is mentioned there and on other sites http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro01/web3/Munoz.html, http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~ogilvie/margaret.html) as a psychogenic dwarf, but is this confirmed somewhere?
milk and cookies
... Barrie stated that they would tell stories, have warm milk and cookies, and that it is was very charming.
- I doubt that he would have used THOSE words.... "milk and cookies" is very much an American expression. IVoteTurkey 01:25, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I think the "milk and cookies" and "charming" addition at the end of the Barrie article are in reference to the statement Michael Jackson made about why he likes being around children. I guess someone just couldn't resist making a comparison.
Inspiration for Peter Pan
an excellent article by Anthony Lane on J.M. Barrie and the inspiration for the creation of Peter Pan appears in the November 22, 2004 issue of The New Yorker Magazine (a link to this article was added to "external links" section January 21, 2005) (contributor Khyber453@comcast.net) this change is a response to a request in the "Talk" section of Wikipedia for information about Barrie family history.
missing pieces
I am a bit disappointed that the article practically opens with an excuse (about his NOT being a pdeophile). As the French well know, qui s'excuse s'accuse, and Barrie needs no apologists, he seems to have handled himself with great dignity. That does not mean that he did not love his boys deeply, or that he did not enjoy their physical beauty. But no mention of that anywhere. He may have been short, but it is us who are the dwarves. Haiduc 03:32, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
spelling of Llewellyn-Davies
In the opening para, Llewellyn has 2 sets of double els, but later on it has only one such set. I don't know which version is correct. Can anybody assist? JackofOz 05:58, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
His first two novels were set in Kirriemuir, disguised as "Thrums" (his father was a weaver).
What does Thrums mean, and what is the connection with weaving? Ubermonkey 13:28, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I sometimes wonder why Anthony Powell put Barrie, and H.G. Wells in with the fictional writer St.John Clarke in his novel "The Acceptance World". (the three of them are in an old photograph, then they are discussed a bit). I suppose no one knows, but Powell introduced nearly every element for a reason Seminumerical 10:57, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Psychogenic dwarfism
The page for this condition mentions JM Barrie as a sufferer - this is a very serious condition usually found in feral children. Can anybody tell us whether he suffered the condition or something similar, and if so why ? thanks WinstonBerni 23:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Furthermore, the article says he "never reached puberty". However both illustrations of him show him wearing a mustache. Can this be explained? -- The Photon 01:48, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Not only does he have a moustache in every photo I've seen, he has an adult jawline. His face is not at all child-like. The page on psychogenic dwarfism says "regular growth will resume when the source of stress is removed."
Is there any evidence that he "never reached puberty"?
Footnote reference link for psychogenic dwarfism
whats wrong with it?? why wont it work properly??!?!!? someone fix it!!??! urhghgughuhguurgh!!!! Bwithh 19:41, 9 September 2006 (UTC)