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Kiran Bedi

Dear Sir

I'm an assistant of Dr Kiran Bedi. Yesterday twice I edited her page, but it was reverted back.

The case is that she is not a active politician but Wikipedia claims it. That's why she wants the "Politician" tag to be removed from her page. For the past 42 years she is doing social work for the society. Last year in 2015 she contested the Delhi elections, but after the elections she is no longer active in regular politics nor she has attended any political gathering, speech, debate or anything on politics. No doubt she is a member of a political party, but just being a member of political party how can she become a Politician?

So, it's a personal request to you to remove the tag of Politician from her page. If you need she can also connect with you or your office via phone or email.

Hope you will help us in this regard.

Aakash Singh

C/o Dr Kiran Bedi, IPS +91-9015442458 aakashsingh.noida@gmail.com

Allahabad Airport

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Zoom Air has already confirmed it's future operation expansion to Allahabad. The referenced linked specifically states 24th March as the date. Airline website also shows Allahabad in it's destination list. This does not need anymore clarification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoorv2312 (talk • contribs) 06:35, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Apoorv2312: If that is the case, it your burden to provide a reference which states the firm date. Stop adding this reference which just states that the airline plans on starting which in no way is a confirmation. If you do add a correct reference, just add the destination content and stop blindly reverting and adding the content related to Central Air Command. It is nothing by original research. — LeoFrank  Talk 06:39, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Apoorv2312 (talk) 06:45, 11 February 2017 (UTC) Your reverted edits regarding Zoom Air, could be accepted until the operations really starts. No more disputes on that.[reply]
But a brief about Central Air Command topic should not be removed from the page. I belong to the place of interest being discussed, and the Bamrauli (Allahabad) Airport is primarily known for Central Air Command operations and proceedings only.
Operations for civilians airlines for public is a secondary simultaneous proceeding at airport. This particular edit is not acceptable. Stop reverting edits, you may be blocked from editing.
@Apoorv2312: As I said, the content on Central Air Command is nothing but original research. If you need to add it, just like in the Zoom Air case, it your burden to provide reliable and verifiable sources for the content! There's not a single source. Understand how things work here in wikipedia and reason out why your edits are reverted than blindly reverting them back. Remember, there is no hurry in adding content. Go through all the links in this message. And don't you threaten me, I know how things work here better than you! — LeoFrank  Talk 06:50, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Apoorv2312 (talk) 07:02, 11 February 2017 (UTC) This shows how much you actually know. If you don't see sources you try adding them, rather than deleting the content. We have improvise to Wikipedia not deplete it of information. What's the source of your edit, what's the source of your actions/judgement to be justifiable.[reply]
One should edit those areas that are specifically in their scope and reach of observation or interest.
And for your information, Central Air Command is Indian government based organization/undertaking. You need sources for that?
I am not going to dispute with you anymore, you rather are too learned to be taught.
@Apoorv2312: This actually shows how much you understand the policies here. As I stated, it the burden of the editor who claims the content to be true to provide references. Despite providing all the links to policies, all you want is justify the fact that you love adding back original research. You don't own any article here. Everyone is free to edit any article and remove content that violates our policies! And whenever you reply, stick to the same section instead of creating a new one every time! We are done talking here. — LeoFrank  Talk 07:07, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Central Air Command

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Why don't you simply delete this page then: Central Air Command. I repeat, if you do not belong to this region, stay out to edit it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoorv2312 (talk • contribs) 07:25, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Apoorv2312: You do not own any article. And stop posting on my talk page. — LeoFrank  Talk 07:28, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Reverting my edit of native names of Mumbai, Bengaluru and Kochi

May I know the reason why you have reverted the edit made to native name? Every city has its native name depending on the region it belongs to.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Prameetc (talk • contribs) 12:26, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Prameetc: You should read the reason given in the revert. I mentioned WP:INDICSCRIPT as the reason, please read this RfC. — LeoFrank  Talk 12:27, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@User:LeoFrank: In such a case, there are many violations right now. Almost all pages of Indian Cities still have a native name. You can check that out yourself! Prameetc (talk) 12:36, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Prameetc: That does not automatically imply that you have to re-add it in articles where it was removed. This is not how things work here in Wikipedia. Read other stuff exists. — LeoFrank  Talk 12:38, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@User:LeoFrank: Then I will be happy to remove the native names from all Indian Cities. If that is a rule, then it should apply to all pages and not some. Thanks! A few examples are Ahmedabad, Patna, Kolkata, Raipur etc. I shall remove it now. Prameetc (talk) 12:41, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Prameetc: You are free to remove them from any India related article. — LeoFrank  Talk 12:42, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@User:LeoFrank: So it applies to states also right? Prameetc (talk) 12:49, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ @Prameetc: Yes. Any article related to India. — LeoFrank  Talk 12:59, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@User:LeoFrank: Ok Thanks! I have changed most states and their capitals, if any are left out, please do change it Prameetc (talk) 13:40, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of passenger movements from Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport

Hello. I know this message is long but please read it complete. I had placed that "threatening comment" in the infobox of the page with passenger movements which you removed along with figures of passenger movements. I had placed two comments (firstly the longer one and later the shorter one) only to prevent repeated IP vandalism to which that page was target for long time (this page was not protected at that time, I requested its protection yesterday). Even despite of the longer comment, some IP vandals shamelessly altered figures of passenger movements, aircraft movements and cargo tonnage as per their choice. Just see the page history of Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport. That's why I placed another short comment (before figures of passenger movements) which warned (not threatened) IP vandals and new users not to change the figures or else their editing privileges will be affected. Moreover, the earlier and longer comment (placed after passenger movements figures) was an explanation of how the statistics were calculated for CY 2016. That comment also urged users not to modify figures. I can see some logic in your removal of first comment but why did you remove figures of passenger movements and the explanatory comment ? Is there any logic behind it ? Let me tell you that both comments are needed to prevent IP vandalism in the article. This page has been protected only for 1 month. It will become available for editing to IP users after that. Those comments will serve as instructions for them and they don't have any "threatening" element.

You are a senior editor and that kind of thing of indiscriminately removing passenger movements figures is not expected from you. It's really unfortunate that disruptive edits by IP vandals are not even noticed quickly and constructive edits of users like us get reverted for no reason. Do you know how much time it took for me to calculate all the statistics for 2016 and putting them with elaborate sources ? Just see reference 1, 2 and 3 of article Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport. I have updated 2016 statistics for many other Indian airports all by myself. Please do care to see the content before removing it. I have placed back passenger movements figures and longer explanatory comment but not the warning comment. Thank you. Please let me know your views on this. Vibhss (talk) 18:39, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Vibhss: I have no patience to read such a long message and neither do I have the time trying to read a supposed justification. Your editing manner indicates a naive approach to editing here in general. No one is ever worried about how long you would've taken to calculate something unless it follows any guidelines. Adding from two different sources is not allowed here. Go through WP:SYNTH. — LeoFrank  Talk 10:58, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@LeoFrank:: That's certainly rude of you. By the way, the comment was for IP vandals who now and then, shamelessly changed figures of statistics. PLEASE SEE REFERENCE 1,2 AND 3 OF ARTICLE. But why are you removing passenger movement figures and let remain Aircraft Movements and Cargo tonnage figures? The latter two also have been calculated from adding by two sources. Statistics for many other Indian airports have been calculated in the same manner. (Since AAI upload its annual figures on fiscal year basis (April to March), this is the only way to calculate statistics for Calendar year (January to December). All major international airports around the world compile their statistics as per CY and same is reflected in Wikipedia. To maintain uniformity with oversees airports, statistics of Indian airports must be mentioned on calendar year basis.) See good articles Kempegowda International Airport and Rajiv Gandhi International Airport and other articles Indira Gandhi International Airport, Chennai International Airport, Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose International Airport and so on. Will you remove passenger movements figures of these articles also ? Well, I am not understanding the logic of different sources here. There is a single single source Besides the source provide details about calculation Are you bullying me or Wikipedia as a whole by your chauvinistic behaviour ? Vibhss (talk) 11:47, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please see Kempegowda International Airport first. Statistics for that "good article" also have been calculated on same basis. See "Statistics" section of article for source. And please do see articles of other airports I mentioned above. Vibhss (talk) 12:06, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Airport article title

Hello, I was wondering what you would think about this situation. The official name for the Gwalior airport is "Rajmata Vijaya Raje Scindia Air Terminal" per AAI. However, the article is titled Rajmata Vijaya Raje Scindia Airport – with a capital A in Airport, suggesting that is the proper name when it is not. Do you think the title should be changed to "Rajmata Vijaya Raje Scindia Air Terminal" or simply "Gwalior airport"? I hope I am not nitpicking! Regards — Sunnya343✈ (háblame • my work) 03:12, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

@Sunnya343: Agree. Even I am inclined to naming the article Gwalior airport. — LeoFrank  Talk 10:56, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

February 2017

Information icon Hello, I'm Jackninja5. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, it's important to be mindful of the feelings of your fellow editors, who may be frustrated by certain types of interaction. While you probably didn't intend any offense, please do remember that Wikipedia strives to be an inclusive atmosphere. In light of that, it would be greatly appreciated if you could moderate yourself so as not to offend. This is not an acceptable edit summary for removing this. The Ninja5 Empire (Talk) 12:06, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jackninja5: WP:DTTR. I hope you know that. A note in your own words would have sufficed. — LeoFrank  Talk 12:11, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you are correct. I should probably have not used the template in this case. However, that is still no excuse. The Ninja5 Empire (Talk) 12:14, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Jackninja5: When did I even give an excuse? — LeoFrank  Talk 12:16, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I guess that was not the right thing to say. Sorry, ignore that part. The Ninja5 Empire (Talk) 12:18, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Mumbai Airport

Please try to get what I am saying. See ref no. 63 of article Kempegowda International Airport and compare it with reference 1 of article Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport I have used same methodology for calculation of statistics. Vibhss (talk) 12:19, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Vibhss: I hope you do understand WP:OSE. And as per consensus, AFAIK, yearly stats was what was agreed upon. Yearly stats are available only for a financial year. Changing stats for each and every month was not agreed upon. So that's what I am doing as this financial year is still running, I am adding the previous financial year's stats. — LeoFrank  Talk 12:29, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Again regarding Mumbai Airport

At least, you must learn difference between INTERNATIONAL TRAFFIC and TOTAL (INTERNATIONAL+DOMESTIC) TRAFFIC. Even in figures of financial year, you did mistake. You provided international passenger figures of 11 million and not total passenger figures of more than 41 million. Total passenger traffic of Mumbai exceeded 41 million in last financial year. You yourself defined this source as such.[1] You just read the international passenger figures on page 1 of PDF and quoted those figures in infobox of article but didn't care to read Total or International + domestic passenger figures on page 3. Yes you did this. Airport articles always mention Total or International + domestic traffic statistics and not International traffic stats only. Please come out from your "I am always right" perception. At least have a full reading of source. Vibhss (talk) 13:38, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A friendly word of caution

Bangalore is Telugu speaking Morasu Nadu

Dear Abhishek / LeoFrank, The following is an account of the Portuguese records taken from the book the New Cambridge History of India. I update the same and if you have any contention let me know how you propose to resolve. On the northern boundary of th e future core of that kingdom was the area called Morasu-nadu (modern Bangalore and Tumkur districts) dominated by one of the large sections of the southern Karnatak peasantry, Morasu Vokkaligas, who seemed to have been Telugu migrants to the area in the fourteenth century. T o the south of the core of the future Mysore state was Kongu withits mixed population of Kannadigas, Telugus, and principally Tamils; to the east and north-east there were Telugu chieftains the most powerful of whom was the lord of Mulbagal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tellasitis (talk • contribs) 01:19, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bangalore is Telugu speaking Morasu Nadu

I am adding this from a book The new cambridge History of India. This is a very reliable source. Also, even today the Morasus are the only Native people of Bangalore. Though Mysore Kings bought Bangalore by paying 3 lakhs to the Moghuls, the native demography are Telugu speaking Morasus. Kindly note, Regards
  1. ^ Passenger Movements for the period April 2015 – March 2016 (PDF) (Report). p. 3. Retrieved 2017-02-18.
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