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R&L banks - Culture clash

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Culture clash - Physical Geography and Geophysics descriptors Hi-jacked by Cultural references:

Logging Left_Bank_(disambiguation) this RFD discussion as co-discussion for wider input regarding various redirects, and the badly named pages:

Left Bank (disambiguation) (edit talk links history) Vs. left bank (edit talk links history)

Right Bank (disambiguation) (edit talk links history) Vs. right bank (edit talk links history)

My primary case was made in the RFD, but most simply, XXXX Bank (disambigulation) forms force everyone else in the world to deal with Paris, (re: Left Bank & Right Bank), a place which is nice, but not germane to physical geography, or the other uses disabig'd. It hardly seems fair to other river cities such as Pittsburgh, New York, London, or New Orleans. (ad nauseum) Making the left bank and right bank terms a disabig is a better solution, provided the dic-def physical geology term is first in the disambig page — or keep the status quo, and use them as soft redirects, which is pretty much why we have the {{soft redirect}} template, so far as I can figure from what I recall in discussions 11-13 years ago in Meta-wiki. FrankB 20:33, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My logic and point in this was simple. Make Left Bank, Right Bank the disambig pages pointing as they already do. Freeing 'lower case' left bank and right bank for physical geography, geophysics, and geography descriptions. Currently, Godsy would have descriptions in town, road, and mountain articles use forms like [[left bank (disambigulation|left bank]] every time there is need to describe such a geophysical attribute... which is to say things which should be in any article where a stream is in the local geography!. So do reconsider, Uanfala, Station1, and Shhhnotsoloud, and to your point, the problem is the same, if there are no dic-def leads in overlapping terms uses, then we have to build a link to use a technical term to wiktionary, so involves a ton of extra characters obfusticating the flow of the descriptive sentence... which are often convoluted enough as it is! See where and how Left bank (edit talk links history) and Right bank (edit talk links history) are used forsooth! // FrankB 16:37, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Fabartus: Actually, as I state in the rfd, I think left bank and right bank should redirect to Bank (geography). — Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 16:44, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Fabartus: This forum is for proposals to delete pages. If you do not want to actually delete the disambiguation pages, you are simply in the wrong place. Station1 (talk) 22:36, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Station1: - I've been hanging XFD tags since 2005, so I didn't stutter. With Left Bank and Right Bank getting the contents of those suffixed by "(disambiguation)", there is no purpose in keeping the latter group. // FrankB 00:14, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. – Uanfala (talk) 20:37, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. – Uanfala (talk) 20:37, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Move Left Bank (disambiguation) and Right Bank (disambiguation) to Left Bank and Right Bank respectively, unless a strong argument can be made that Rive Gauche and Rive Droite are the primary topic (in which case these pages should be kept as is). Most of the disambiguated items have both words capitalized, which makes that appropriate for the title per WP:DIFFCAPS. That aside, as I stated in the related RfD: in the mainspace, {{soft redirect}} should only be used to invite readers to visit a page on a different Wikimedia project. — Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 22:27, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. If this is a move request, it's the wrong forum. WP:RM should be used. Obviously the pages should not be deleted. Station1 (talk) 23:47, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a regular at Afd and I have to admit: I have no idea what this is supposed to be. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:33, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. No policy reason to delete. What does need deleting is the latest edit adding a non-standard preamble that could be obtained by the linked dictionary-definition. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:01, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]