Talk:Ruder Finn

What about involvment in de propaganda for the Kosovo-war? --2A02:8109:9A40:1778:5424:6CFD:94DD:DF87 (talk) 17:26, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What about it? Carptrash (talk) 19:56, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello,

I am an employee of Ruder Finn. I would like to suggest an edit to the introduction at the top of the page because we would like to add more specific information about the company. It currently states "Ruder Finn is a public relations firm with co-headquarters in the United States and China". Can you please change it to "Ruder Finn is a public relations firm with co-headquarters in the United States and China. It is one of the world’s largest privately-owned communications agencies. Ruder Finn serves over 250 corporations, governments, and nonprofit organizations. The agency has 4 divisions Health & Wellness, Corporate Reputation & Transformation, RFI Studios, and Consumer Connections."^[1]

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Hello -- Emily Rossi here on behalf of Ruder Finn. We noticed some of the content on the existing page is inaccurate or incomplete. Due to the conflict of interest, we will not directly edit the article and work through Wikipedians to revise the page. There are a few updates we suggest, here are the first two:

1-The third paragraph in the History section currently reads as follows: "In the 1960s through late 1990s, while representing long-time client Philip Morris (now Altria), Ruder Finn was instrumental in crafting the public relations campaign that disputed the evidence tobacco smoking is hazardous to health."

We suggest adding the following sentence be added to provide a more accurate picture:

"Ruder Finn resigned the account when the surgeon general came out with their warning on cigarettes and has abstained from representing the tobacco industry since due to the scientific evidence that smoking has a dangerous negative effect on human health." ^[2] ^[3]

2-In the 4th paragraph of the History section, it currently reads: “In 1997, Ruder Finn ran the Global Climate Coalition, a group of mainly United States businesses opposing action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.” We suggest amending and adding information as Ruder Finn did not run the GCC, a subsidiary company that was later acquired by Ruder Finn provided counsel to the GCC.

Proposed updated language: “In the 1990s, the E. Bruce Harrison Company -- which was acquired by Ruder Finn in 1997 -- represented the Global Climate Coalition, a group of mainly United States businesses opposing action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Ruder Finn has worked with environmental and renewable energy clients including the United Nations Environmental Program, Det Norske Veritas (a Norwegian institute that provides a system to measure greenhouse gas emissions reductions), and the Solena Group (a producer of energy from biomass). ^[4] ^[5] ^[6]

Just want to note that we've followed Wikipedia guidelines as noted here: WP:SCOIC

Many thanks! Emily

Emilyrossi1 (talk) 16:39, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Emily, and thank you for your proposed changes and for following Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines. I am afraid I must reject your suggestions. You did not give any independent sources for supporting the claim that Ruder Finn has since refused to represented the tobacco industry. My Way Forward is offline, so I cannot access the source, but judging from the title it was written by an RF employee. The second article is an interview, and the only person who stated that RF no longer represents tobacco companies is also an RF employee. As for the second change, I don't see any indication that RF immediately stopped representing the Global Climate Coalition as soon as they acquired E. Bruce Harrison. In fact, the source currently cited in the article states "The Global Climate Coalition (GCC), run by Washington P.R. firm Ruder Finn" so the Wikipedia article does not appear to factually inaccurate in this regard. I am not going to add the following sentence about "working" with environmental groups. "Working" is a very vague descriptor. It tries to convince readers that Ruder Finn is committed to environmental protection without giving any specifics. Thus the sentence clearly tries to dilute the implication of the sentence prior to it, so I am not approving it. Best, Altamel (talk) 19:03, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/17/business/keeping-it-in-the-family/index.html
^ The Way Forward: My First Fifty Years at Ruder Finn. New York: Millwood. 1988. p. 78.
^ "Ethics of Tobacco PR Argued by Holmes, Cohen Ruder & Finn, Inc". Retrieved September 18, 2014.
^ "Global Climate Coalition".
^ "E. Bruce Harrison". Source Watch.
^ "O'Dwyer's Guide to Enviromental PR & Public Affairs" (PDF). Odwyer PR.

[1] ttp://www.cnn.com/2014/04/17/business/keeping-it-in-the-family/index.html

[2] The Way Forward: My First Fifty Years at Ruder Finn. New York: Millwood. 1988. p. 78.

[3] "Ethics of Tobacco PR Argued by Holmes, Cohen Ruder & Finn, Inc". Retrieved September 18, 2014.

[4] "Global Climate Coalition".

[5] "E. Bruce Harrison". Source Watch.

[6] "O'Dwyer's Guide to Enviromental PR & Public Affairs" (PDF). Odwyer PR.

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