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Misleading quote

I strongly feel that the quote in the "How to avoid Open Candy" section of the article is heavily misleading and taken out of context. In context, I read it to be meant as a satirical rejoinder to the "you can turn off Javascript if you don't like Google Ads" argument (s)he was replying to -- the point being that both arguments are somewhat ridiculous in today's environment. While I have no opinion on the legitimacy of Open Candy, this quote is everything but impartial and Wikipedia can do better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.33.13.171 (talk) 09:59, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you mean the quote in the reference, I see it as an attempted argument for the legitimacy of OpenCandy; that you can avoid it by turning off your internet connection during the install. I find that information important for people that want to avoid OpenCandy. I do not understand why you are upset ("strongly feel", "heavily misleading") - could you please explain that? And could you please explain what it is you feel is misleading? The wikipedia text was never meant to be misleading. And the quote was never meant as an argument for any legitimacy of OpenCandy; it was meant as a quote of a simple, claimed fact. --Jhertel (talk) 02:50, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In the original comment the quote is taken from, it is not intended as a serious suggestion of how to avoid OpenCandy recommendations, but merely to illustrate the (perceived) hypocrisy of the site's author who claimed that -- other than OpenCandy -- his Google Ads can be turned off by turning off Javascript. "Your highlighting of the difference between your ads and our recommendations doesn't make sense. You say your ads are fine because users can disable them by turning off javascript -- but how many users actually know that and do it? The exact same can be said about our recommendations and users with software firewalls or strict Windows firewall settings. You can simply not allow internet communication during a software install and you will never see an OpenCandy recommendation. How is that different, better, or worse?"
Without that context, I felt that the paraphrase in the Wikipedia article reads as if the OpenCandy developers see turning off the internet connection during install as a viable option which is clearly not the case (not because it doesn't work, but rather because it's not something most users would do or consider and thus not really a legitimate option, like a checkbox would be). Thus the absurdity of the quote, without the proper context, could lead a reader of Wikipedia to make wrong assumptions about OpenCandy's developers and their stance towards their customers. I'm not "upset" (I agree that I might have given off that impression), by "strongly feel" I merely wanted to imply that what you obviously see as innocuous advice, reads as somewhat snippy and cyncial to me robbed of its original context, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.23.193.144 (talk) 21:25, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry you misunderstood my addition to the article and the quote. It was really only meant as helpful advice to users wanting to avoid OpenCandy when installing programs. And the quote was just meant as a simple fact, as the source of the information. But maybe I can try to rephrase it a bit to make that more clear. You're welcome to suggest a rephrasing too if you want. --Jhertel (talk) 00:02, 15 January 2015

References needed

There are a number of entries in the list of applications that use OpenCandy (see section OpenCandy#Applications known to use OpenCandy) that are unreferenced. Editors also have been adding new unreferenced entries to that list. Please update those references or delete those that are unreferenced. Thanks JoeSperrazza (talk) 14:01, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Given that listing software and sites is basically making an accusation of bad practice, I suggest that all unsourced entries be deleted. This does lose useful information in the cases where reports are true, but it's "WP:Original research" if not sourced. Pol098 (talk) 21:03, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've deleted all unsourced software and sites listed. Anyone who wants to reinstate them with sources can find the deleted list in the article History. Pol098 (talk) 21:24, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Other Software.

I am pretty sure that other installers are using OpenCandy too. It would be nice to have someone confirming them and adding them to the list. You can add more unconfimed software below:


OpenCandy re-branded as SweetLabs?

In the first portion of the article, there is a reference to "OpenCandy [being] shut down in 2016"

An exhaustive web-search discloses no, repeat ZERO, references to OpenCandy being "shut down", though the "opencandy.com" site appeared to be down when I tried to reach it today. However there were a number of very interesting facts disclosed by this search:

  • Sweetlabs was founded in 2008 [1]
  • OpenCandy's Twitter page was created in 2008, and maintains continuing references to SweetLabs. [2]
  • SweetLabs employees brag about getting OpenCandy swag, both on the Twitter page noted above, as well as on Instagram. [3]
  • SweetLabs advertises monetization via app install bundling [4]
  • At least two of OpenCandy's original founders were also founders of SweetLabs, including Darrius Thompson and Mark Chweh. [5]

I think it is safe to assume that OpenCandy had become so notorious that it was rebranded and/or subsumed by a new company called SweetLabs.

Suggestion: Remove the reference to OpenCandy being "shut down" and add a reference to it being part of SweetLabs.

What say ye?

Jharris1993 (talk) 02:10, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Axcrypt

Axcrypt could be added to the list: http://www.axantum.com/axcrypt/Freeware.html 141.168.250.245 (talk) 05:39, 7 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ (http://sweetlabs.com/company/)
  2. ^ (https://twitter.com/opencandy)
  3. ^ (https://www.instagram.com/p/f5zH18N_iY/)
  4. ^ (http://sweetlabs.com/developers/)
  5. ^ (http://sweetlabs.com/company/ - click on "Team")
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