Talk:Shrinking city

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Problems

I believe the list of shrinking cities has problems. First, many of these are cities at the center of urban areas which are clearly growing, e.g. Washington, Philadelphia, Minneapolis. So "city" here means only an arbitrary municipal boundary. Second, my (limited) understanding of Wikipedia is that we needn't/shouldn't be doing our own analysis and adding it, we should find already published results of shrinking cities and reference them.Ddjwp (talk) 07:56, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with the association of "government policies creating disinvestment" and the term "redlining" - the two have similar effects but they are two distinct problems. Plus, I think it gives the first paragraph a slightly political slant. (Dylan) 132.235.125.197 (talk) 01:10, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This page needs to be expanded. Marbel hill 20:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So do it! This is Wikipedia. :) I added a list of shrinking cities, and sure hope others expand it. If some WP genius knows of a way to point a bot at census figures and get this stuff automatically, that would be extremely cool -- especially if it pours the results into a template that shows peka population vs. 2006 (estimated) population, with percentage change. tgeller 22:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Paris ?

Why Paris is include if it has gowth.

1999 : 2,125,000

2005 : 2,153,600

And it is only for the inner city. The inner suburbs wich are urban have a high growth. Minato ku 20:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Leipzig and Dresden are not shrinking

This article seems to be based in part on outdated information. Neither Leipzig nor Dresden are currently losing population - quite the contrary. They are especially attracting young people from smaller cities and rural areas. Leipzig has even been called "Hypezig" by some in the press Hobbitschuster (talk) 17:40, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

History: Not just a modern phenomenon

I have 2 Problems with this article: 1) missing historic aspect of the problem: I can understand that this article isn't really about history but I guess it would be good if some historic examples would at least be mentioned in order to show that this isn't just a modern problem. Some links would be enough. You don't have to discuss it in depth. One of the most drastic examples I know of is Rome after the fall of the western empire. A city that had a bit less than a million inhabitants in antiquity and shrank to about 30k? inhabitants during the early middle ages before it started to grow again. (Quote from the Rome wiki site: Its population declined from more than a million in 210 AD to 500,000 in 273[41] to 35,000 after the Gothic War,[42] reducing the sprawling city to groups of inhabited buildings interspersed among large areas of ruins, vegetation, vineyards and market gardens.[43])

There are also examples where large towns completely disappeared (Babylon, Memphis and Thebes(Egypt), Karakorum etc. → Lost_city)

2) Several kinds of articles seem to be overlapping: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterurbanization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrinking_cities etc... It might be good to either distinguish or combine those articles. They seem to be quite similar.