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Picture

Ah, I uploaded this but I should have come to check whether this article already had a picture. Oh well. Marnanel 18:57, 31 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

"Fast Eddie"

Hmm.. Is it NPOV to mention that he is also known as "Fast Eddie"?

Ha, ha! Good question, hard to say. I doubt many outside of Philly have heard him called that. Functc ) 23:06, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mark B. Cohen

I would like to ask this question to anyone else that has editted this page. I have consistently seen the name of Pennsylvania "Mark B. Cohen" pop up in political articles all over the place, especially regarding racial politics. It seems strange that he doesn't have his own article on wikipedia, and yet someone keeps quoting him in a range of different articles. Does it sound a little paranoid for me to suggest that maybe one of the guy's associates is promoting him in wikipedia discreetly? Call me insane, but it's just weird to me.

Cohen's legal counsel is a savant-like internet/technology fetishist. He is most likely the one pimping out his boss.

"2006 Re-election bid" Section Needs Trimming

Specifically, the parts about candidates who have already dropped out and those who never entered. It's probably ok to list them, but I don't think we need to go into detail about their reasons for not staying/entering in the race. Also, the stuff about the July poll seems rather pointless at this point. It's odd to discuss why Rendell is performing badly, even in retrospect, when he now has a 12 point lead over a popular former NFL star. - Maximusveritas 05:52, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe spin the section off to an seperat article on the election? --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:54, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There is already a separate article on the election. I am going to change the tag in the section from "see also" to "main article", and move or delete most of the material in the section. I'm also going to fix the July poll (I thought I'd done that on an earlier edit, but apparently not.) Good suggestions. John Broughton 19:16, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I wasnt sure if their had been a seperate article, had not come across one. But if the information is their, then it is far more relevant to that article then it is to this article, whith short blurbs about the election with link to the election article for more indepth information. As for the poll numbers, to be honest for me right noe their a bit hard to follow, every day when i read ehither the PG or INQ online they both seem to say something different about the number then they did the previous day. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 03:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Good job trimming it down. As far as the unstable polling, I think it has to do with the methodology employed by Rasmussen, Zogby, and Strategic Vision, all of which are very questionable. I tend to trust the Quinnipiac polls much more than the others. - Maximusveritas 22:40, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with the trim comment, good job, i could have not done better my self. As for polls i have allwaways found polls in general to be questionable, at least in the last several years. I also thing that a lot has to do with the current shuffle in canidates, which seems to be on a daily basis. Just my opinion. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:16, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shaping the article

I reverted WayneNight's edits that came about 5 minutes after mine.

  • I don't know who Mark Cohen is and why he pops up in the article.
  • The headers should stay the way they were in accordance with the standard format on Wikipedia.
  • The changes I made to the Plan for a New Pennsylvania paragraph were because the piece looked like they were from the Governor's public relations people. By the way, before we get charges that I am just a GOP hack, the information is based on material from the PA House Democratic Caucus and the Governor's own press release. And I voted for Ed Rendell.
  • I would hardly characterize the Philly suburbs as heavily Republican. The Republican registration advantage is relatively small in all four counties. I would also quarrel with the assessment as to why Rendell swept the four suburban counties. Rendell was popular from his time as mayor and the 'collar counties' also tend to vote regionally. Milton Shapp won in the southeast in 1971 back when the GOP advantage was far larger. Arlen Specter also blows people away in the southeast.
Republicans control pretty much all the Senate seats in the Philadelphia suburbs at the moment. There are, on the other hand, the most moderate of the GOP. Still, it's been considered a GOP stronghold until this year when everything is getting shaky. Sot it's fair.

I invite discussion over my changes. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Montco (talk • contribs) .

I like the way the article reads now. I took the liberty of making some minor copyedits. Hopefully the most controversial of these is removing a bit of speculation about realignment of voting in Pennsylvania (one election does not a realignment make, and in any case wouldn't these be better discussed in, say, the article on Pennsylvania?), and removing the "first governor from Philidelphia since 1979", which - to my non-Pennsylvanian ears - isn't particularly memorable. John Broughton 17:26, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In all honesty you can put back the 'first Philadelphian in a century' if you want. I guess its technically true since Governor Shapp actually lived in Montgomery County although his business was based in Philly.
I think the part where he's a "key supporter of Bob Casey" is weird considering half the political talk in the state right now is about how his support has been lukewarm.

pundints

What is the pundents saying about the election?