Talk:PageCloud

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Request on 15:20:04, 29 May 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Redavidwilliams

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Hey Legacypac,

Thanks for taking the time to review Draft:PageCloud! Have to say off the bat that as a fellow Canadian I'm particularly impressed by your list of travel destinations... Hopefully I can say the same at some future point.

With regards to the article; at the outset I wasn't sure about being able to meet notability standards for the subject, but I thought dedicated articles about the company in the National Post and Globe and Mail (among others) would serve as credible sources because they are internationally distributed, published, reliable, and independent. I recognize that you probably see a lot of companies so the standards for notability are rigorous.

I'm trying to assess the likelihood of even getting this article accepted. I can provide additional sources but I just want to establish a baseline for what you would require to make this pursuit worthwhile. Thanks in advance for your help! Redavidwilliams (talk) 15:20, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Very hard for a new company to pass WP:CORPDEPTH. I've copied your comments here for the next reviewer. I always prefer someone else takes a look. Legacypac (talk) 23:46, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

COI

@JJMC89 and Redavidwilliams: What's going on with the {{Connected contributor}} template above and {{COI}} template on the article page? Where was this conflict of interest declared by Redavidwilliams? Mkdw ^talk 19:46, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redavidwilliams added it to the article, so I moved it here, where it is supposed to be, and replaced it with {{COI}}. — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:17, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JJMC89: Thank you. Mkdw ^talk 05:06, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Redavidwilliams: Absolutely under no circumstances may you remove the {{COI}} template from an article in which you have declared a conflict of interest. Furthermore, I am moving this back into the draft space as it was declined and the changes were not substantive enough to meet the concerns of the reviewer. I strongly suggest you thoroughly read WP:COIEDIT. Mkdw ^talk 05:06, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Barkeep49: If you strongly feel this article clearly meets our notability guidelines, then it may be moved into the article space -- however, I would recommend it not be approved and moved if it does not do so unquestionably. Previously, a massive undisclosed paid editing sock farm was uncovered, the editor community banned, and a sizeable unanimous consensus to have the articles deleted. PageCloud was one of those articles. I find the circumstances of this draft, the declared conflict of interest by this single-purpose editor, and that it was moved into article space after being declined by Legacypac to be troubling. Mkdw ^talk 05:38, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rather than sending it back to Draft I'd rather see it go to AfD for a decisive result. Legacypac (talk) 14:26, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Mkdw: I hold no torch for this page and would have to look again at the sources to see which I felt confident enough about to remove the notability tag but I agree with Legacypac that AfD feels like the better next step for this page. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 14:35, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Legacypac and Barkeep49: Please feel free to move it back to the main space and nominate it for AFD. Mkdw ^talk 14:59, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Legacypac, Barkeep49, Mkdw, and JJMC89: Hi there, I'm happy to provide details about my particular Conflict of Interest in this case but I can assure you I am not a paid editor, nor am I involved with any Paid Editing Farm. I'm not sure why PageCloud was previously flagged but this is my first attempt (and the only that I know of) to publish an article on this subject. After re-reading the COI editing article referred, I decided to step back from doing any editing to avoid any further issues or mistakes. On that note, removing the {{COI}} was definitely my mistake; I misinterpreted the meaning of the initial conversation here, but I have tried to be forthcoming about it since beginning this article. Sorry about any misunderstanding, I assure you I had no malicious intentions. Redavidwilliams (talk) 16:04, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]