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68.129.15.71

Hi Ed. Not sure where I could post about this as I'm having a bit of trouble with an IP user. The user was previously banned for about 6 months for not adhering to Wikipedia rules. I've engaged conversation with the user on their talk page which led to you originally issuing a six month ban. Shortly after the ban was lifted the user has tried to add content with sources as requested, but countless times I've looked at their sources, the user is not writing information that is being claimed by their source. As you can see from the past month, I'm not really convinced the user has learned anything and seems to ignore any rules list I send them or suggestions on using a sandbox to learn how to use sources. This isn't blatant vandalism, but it is basicly problematic editing. How should I handle this? Feel free to respond here, on my talk page, or that users talk page. Hope you can help! Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:39, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have left a note for the IP that their edits are being discussed here. EdJohnston (talk) 17:52, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As you know, I just recently got back onto wikipedia after being blocked for 6 months. I seriously do not want to be blocked again, as I enjoy editing and trying to make the pages more complete and informative. There is an editor who is closely following every word I put on wikipedia, and he's been telling me every time I break a rule regarding the use of only "reliable" sources. I have been reading the information he links to me, and although I find the tutorials confusing at times, I've really been trying to follow the rules, because as I said, I don't want to be blocked again. I've been putting footnotes on everything I add, but he keeps telling me that the sources I'm using aren't reliable enough. All I ask is that you try to understand that I'm not deliberately adding unsourced material, it's just that every source I find seems to be not good enough. Even dvd liner notes and sources that other people have already used on the page aren't reliable enough. I've gotten to the point where I'm afraid to add even facts that are already alluded to on the pages by previous editors, it's paralyzing. I guess he just wants to get rid of me? But I'm just asking you to understand I'm a serious editor and I am really into the topics that I try to edit, and I'm not trying to be annoying on purpose. I really think I've got the hang of the "reliable source" thing now, and I'll certainly try my best not to break any rules. Please understand the topics I edit involve obscure foreign films that seem to have very few reliable sources at all on the internet. But from now on, if I can't find a source that's specific enough, I just won't add anything at all to the article. Thanks for your consideration and patience.68.129.15.71 (talk) 02:27, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pleased to hear that you have good intentions. Though good intentions are necessary they are not sufficient. We expect that new material will be reliably sourced, and that you are able to read the source carefully to verify what it says. Wikipedia can't tolerate frequent sourcing errors because we have no staff available whose mission it is to go around double-checking things. Your recent set of changes at House of Terror (film) suggest that you are on the right track. When you are uncertain, you should ask an experienced contributor. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 02:44, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Ed. Sorry to poke you again about this so soon, but the user seems to be not getting it. Since your edit, he's added a new release date to the article here (note that he leaves the old release date in too). I've looked at his source and while they do mention the year 1959, neither source explicitly states that these films were released in 1959. One is only mentioning an actor travel in 1959. I'd normally let this pass as a good faith edit, but I've told this editor this through months and months of editing that he needs to WP:STICKTOSOURCE. Even in a most recent conversation on Talk:Face of the Screaming Werewolf, the user has suggested when a film was being edited, and when I asked for a source, they claim to just assume it. This is a repeated behaviour that I don't really see changing in the near future. I know this doesn't warrant a block, but the user really does not understand the rules and I'm running out of ways to explain it to them. Whats the next situation to help this person out?Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:28, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ed, please look at my situation here. Every time I edit anything, this editor reports me! He knows that you blocked me before, so he figures I have very little credibility with you. But if you look at this latest so-called "violation" he reported me for, you'll see how he's nitpicking every detail I write in an attempt to get me blocked again. I didn't say anything about the film's "premiere date". I was just quoting the two sources I listed verbatim. They both refer to Casa del Terror as "a 1959 film", that's what they call it. Every internet source I see calls it a 1959 film. The book source I used said specifically Lon Chaney "went to Mexico to make the film in 1959". I just wrote EXACTLY what the sources stated. I didn't say anything about any premiere date, simply because I wasn't sure of the premiere date. The reason I left the 1960 date in the infobox was because some other editor put it there awhile back, and I figured if I took it off, he'd report me for vandalism! (I had posted a reference source to prove the other editor's release date but I later thought it wasn't strong enough so I removed it, but I left his release date in the infobox to avoid being accused of vandalism). He just keeps posting notices on me like I'm vandalizing wikipedia, while I'm actually spending all my time and effort trying to improve the pages. I even purchased a bunch of expensive reference books to use. It looks like he just doesn't want me editing wikipedia. I even asked him, if he sees an error I made, to either delete it or tell me to change it. I told him I do NOT want to get involved in an editing war, but he keeps reporting me over and over. I don't know why he wants me blocked, I even asked him if we could cooperate on this stuff. All i'm saying is, PLEASE look at this latest violation he reported me on, and you'll see how petty it is, and how malicious he's making me appear so that you will block me from editing. I'm sure you will see that i'm being set up here, I did exactly what he told me to do, quoted the sources verbatim, and now he's saying I wrote the wrong "release date". I never said 1959 was the theatrical release date, I just repeated that the sources alkl refer to this movie simply as "a 1959 film". PLEASE look at the situation i'm in, and if you can, try to figure out why this editor wants me blocked so badly?? I love wikipedia, and I have been on it for over 10 years, I would never vandalize an article. Surely you can see this editor must have a motive for stalking me from article to article every day, and reporting me over and over. I'm trying to abide by the reliable source rules, honestly. I think I've gotten much better just in the past few weeks, I scrutinize my sources now like never before. But this editor corrects every word I write, and slaps "unreliable" notices on every footnote I use, and reports me to you for any little thing he can think of! Please look at my side of this? There's something wrong going on here, seriously. I know I make mistakes, but it's not done maliciously, I think you can see that?68.129.15.71 (talk) 18:55, 26 June 2018 (UTC) PS -If you get a chance, please look at my edits on LA CASA DEL TERROR and on FACE OF THE SCREAMING WEREWOLF. I'm sure you'll see I used some very good footnotes and I totally rewrote the plot synopses on both pages. Thanks for your consideration, Ed.68.129.15.71 (talk) 19:16, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

At first sight, the arguments that Andzebanas is making at Talk:House of Terror (film) look to be valid. When WP:Reliable sources are not available we can simply leave the information out. If you can't get agreement on the article talk page, you could try some of the other steps that are listed in WP:Dispute resolution such as the WP:DRN. It seems that you want information for the article so badly that you are willing to use things you believe are likely to be true even when they can't be confirmed from the sources. EdJohnston (talk) 19:23, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's pretty much the situation. I'd forgive it if were the first (or second...or third time) this editor has done that, but its just repeated behavior. I've explained the rules to user several times, and I'm confident the user has not read the rules pages. I'm beginning to bring up WP:COMPETENCE as an issue honestly. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:52, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I never entered any information on the page claiming it was a theatrical release date. I just quoted a number of sources that said how Lon Chaney traveled to Mexico in 1959 to make the film. That 1960 date that was in the infobox was put there many moons ago by some other editor. I left it there to avoid getting accused of vandalism, but then I get blamed for the unsourced date? I just left it there where I found it, because I don't know the release date. I doubt anyone does. I just know every source i've seen refers to this film as "a 1959 Mexican film". As far as getting agreement on the talk page, Andzre doesn't have to get me to agree because he obviously outranks me and he can just put whatever he wants to on the pages. I'm not edit-warring with him or anyone else! If he deletes my information, I'll just leave it off. I'm not here to cause conflict, I'm only seeing what info I can dig up that isnt already in the articles and if it's deemed unreliable, then I'm fine with that. I don't want erroneous information in the articles either. That's why I'm doing this, to correct the erroneous facts and dates if I can. But his habit of reporting me for vioations at least once a day makes me think he's just trying to get rid of me by getting me blocked. Go back and look how many months (years) he's been following me from topic to topic. I feel like I work for him! Now he's calling me incompetent. I don't know why we can't work together. I already told him if he feels I made an error, he can delete any of my stuff that he doesn't like. I'm trying hard to do well at this, please give me the benefit of the doubt?68.129.15.71 (talk) 23:48, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What did you think adding a year would be? I already stated how these years are listed on wikipedia several times before. You ignore the manual of style when I show it to you, or if you do read it, you don't seem to follow it. Trust me, I don't want to follow you around, but your edits to films , despite being in good faith, have not been for the better. If you have been editing wikipedia for 10 years as you have stated, you did not choose to learn the rules in that time. Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Closing SPI cases

I just wanted to respond to your comment at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Neurosurgeon2be123. For cases like this where a request for admin action has already been handled (or if you are handling it), you are allowed to close these cases yourself. Just change the parameter in the SPI case status template from admin to close, and leave a comment explaining what you're doing. Don't feel like you have to this, but if it seems appropriate to you, you don't need to ask someone else to do it for you. Cheers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:31, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info. I'll consider that. EdJohnston (talk) 17:21, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Olsen24

I've blocked this editor twice for edit warring and fully support the indef but was surprised at your no article talk page posts ever assertion. Maybe you were looking at another namespace? [1] --NeilN talk to me 16:59, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. I've apologized for my mistake on the editor's talk but still retain confidence in the block. Thanks for your note, EdJohnston (talk) 17:25, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@EdJohnston: Proof Olsen24 is lying: [2] SportsFan007 (talk) 13:58, 1 July 2018 (UTC)SportsFan007[reply]
I saw that edit but believe that there is nothing more to do, for now. The user's block is in effect for another three months, and we'll see if everything is OK when he returns to editing. EdJohnston (talk) 14:24, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lithuania

There is a user at Lithuania's page who is edit warring by changing the country's geographic position in the lead section despite a consensus being reached almost 1 year ago. I tried reasoning with that user in his talk page, but he just ignores it. You were the last administrator to protect the page in October 2017 for the very same reasons at my request. I need an advice about reporting that user. I thought about going to WP:EW, but I believe that would be premature since the WP:3RR rule was not broken. I am leaning towards WP:ANI, but I am not sure if that would help either. Any help would be appreciated. – Sabbatino (talk) 06:46, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you're talking about Niivent (talk · contribs), so I've added a userlinks template for them. I'll let them know about your comment here. Thanks for your note. EdJohnston (talk) 13:24, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Syrian Turkmen (also Turkish people)

Hi EdJohnston, I hope you're doing well. We had communicated on 20th June 2018 when you warned me about edit warring on my talk page. Since then, I have tried to communicate on the talk pages, particularly Talk:Syrian Turkmen, and a lesser extent on Talk:Turkish people. I included a disputed template on Turkish people which has since been removed. On Syrian Turkmen, I have sought to propose a rewriting on the talk page; however, I am constantly met with negative comments with no evidence to suggest that the other party wishes to work together. I am here seeking for advice; any help on who I can contact for mediation will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance, O.celebi (talk) 14:44, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In general, use the steps of WP:Dispute resolution. The disagreement you are having at Talk:Syrian Turkmen could probably be taken to the WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. EdJohnston (talk) 18:50, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Kind regards. O.celebi (talk) 19:21, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Crown of Aragon

Hi EdJohnston, I am trying to edit the "Crown of Aragon" page because some people try to introduce non-historical terms for promoting Catalonian independence. The term "Catalanoaragonese crown" has never used in the past. There is no ancient text which uses that term, but now it has been created for promoting the idea that Catalonia was a country. In the edition I made, I didn't delete the term, I only added that it was incorrect but saying that, even it's true, it's a problem for some people. I can send you references showing that but It's easy if they can send one ancient document reference using that term. If not, it has to be classified as incorrect because It's like call the Roman empire, the Spanishroman empire because Spain was inside. Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.144.114.81 (talk) 18:22, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please make this argument at Talk:Crown of Aragon. You can provide your references there. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:46, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Avianca

Before threating Wikipedia content contributors, firstly you should check if the other people's reviews are valid or not by contrasting other trustful information sources (i.e. relationship of Avianca brand with Nicaragua and Mexico). An almost perfect lack of knowledge from your side (using the same kind of friendly expression you used towards me). Ju98_5 (talk) 09:50, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This must be a response to the warning I left you per a complaint at WP:AN3. Even if you have good knowledge about Avianca, this doesn't give you license to keep reverting without ever discussing or using an edit summary. You did not take the opportunity to respond at AN3. As an administrator, I'm not expected to know about Avianca, only to check whether people are going through the proper steps when they disagree. EdJohnston (talk) 14:38, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Web_SourceContent

Something doesn't smell right here. Out of the blue they revert me on a page they have never been to. I suspect they might be looking at some latest edit list but... something's not right here. This is a user who has edited a handful of times outside of this last month, suddenly editing in a way that seems to imply they know way more than they should rightfully know, with a signature that doesn't match their user name. I saw you tried to engage with them on their talk page. Now they've started working in their sandbox in... another weird way. I'd keep an eye on them. I'll report back if I see anything unusual. --Tarage (talk) 18:53, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is likely to be a returning editor. No problems yet. What's more of a concern if somebody pretends to be a new user and they are not. Their English is not yet good enough for them to work in contentious areas, so I hope they pursue a quiet career. EdJohnston (talk) 19:40, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Normally I'd agree, but the revert out of nowhere on my edit has me concerned. Regardless, I'll leave it be for now. --Tarage (talk) 20:42, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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