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Jack hart

You deleted jack hart boxing referee ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:9A0C:8100:3C4A:4410:A4AD:FDAA (talk) 19:51, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, appoligies for the delay in answering you. The Jack Hart (Boxing) article was deleted following a descussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Hart (boxing) where concensus was to delete because there was not enough evidence that he meets the notability guidelines. Sarahj2107 (talk) 08:53, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Euromonitor International Article Deletion

Hi Sarah Jane,

The article on the company Euromonitor International was deleted in October 2016 due to the notability guidelines. I believe this was an error. I have listed evidence that should support the articles reinstatement. I don’t have a copy of the original text, but I am more than happy to ensure that all factual information is backed up by verifiable information from reliable sources that provide evidence of notability. I can see from Google data that around 75 people a month are specifically searching for Euromonitor’s Wikipedia entry.

Many thanks

--OlivierEuro (talk) 17:57, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Euromonitor International Notability

Delete discussion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Euromonitor_International

Companies House (UK.Gov) Established 1972. Turnover £122 million. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/01040587/filing-history

Price Waterhouse Coopers (PwC) Private Business of the Year http://pwc.blogs.com/press_room/2013/09/euromonitor-wins-private-business-of-the-year.html

Winner Queens Award for Enterprise 2014 (UK Government) 90% of revenue earned from overseas sales.

https://www.ft.com/content/bc36dbb4-c3ec-11e3-870b-00144feabdc0 http://queensawardsmagazine.com/business-winner/euromonitor-international-plc/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen%27s_Awards_for_Enterprise

Wikipedia Top 10 UK market research organizations in 2013 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_research

Corporate Social Responsibility: Supported Charities • Unity in Health. (Healthcare Development Agency)

“UiH would like to thank Euromonitor International, the world’s leading Independent provider of strategic market research, for supporting our work in Nepal. Through a well-structured and meaningful CSR Programme, Euromonitor has a long tradition of engaging in responsible business activities and of providing essential funds for social causes worldwide. “

http://unityinhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Newsletter-Feb-2017.pdf

• The Walkabout Foundation (Wheelchairs for South Sudanese Refugees in Uganda) https://hopehealthaction.org/news/war-wheelchairs-blog-3-felix/104/

• Refugee Empowerment & Support Taskforce (REST) https://www.the-rest.org/partners

• United Nations Global Compact https://www.unglobalcompact.org/system/attachments/cop_2017/379801/original/Euromonitor_International_United_Nations_Global_Compact_Communication_on....pdf?1493635724

Global Business Press Citations 

(190 articles in just one month, January 2018)

Bloomberg https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2018-01-23/bacardi-s-tequila-shot-risks-hangover-for-jack-daniel-s

Forbes https://www.forbes.com/sites/andriacheng/2018/01/21/one-more-sign-walmart-is-serious-when-it-comes-to-fighting-amazon/#78a0699b6e63

BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42619887

Reuters https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-samsung/u-s-washer-tariffs-put-samsung-lg-supply-chains-through-the-wringer-idUSKBN1FJ0LZ

Wall Street Journal https://www.wsj.com/articles/outfoxed-by-small-batch-upstarts-unilever-decides-to-imitate-them-1514910342

CNN http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/23/news/economy/washing-machines-trump-tariff/index.html

Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jan/17/nearly-1m-tonnes-every-year-supermarkets-shamed-for-plastic-packaging

Hi OlivierEuro, appoligies for the delay in responding to you. I've had a look at the sources you have provided and I to me they all appear to be either not independant or just mention Euromonitor in passing rather than being about them. The Guardian article for example just mentions them in the sourceing for a graph. However, it's been a year and a half since the deletion descussion, which had a weak keep and a weak delete, so they may meet the notability guidles now. I'm not willing to restore the article as it was, but you could try creating a draft with some better sources and submitting it for review. Sarahj2107 (talk) 09:09, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Responses to past messages

I have been away from Wikipedia for about 9 months and there are a few messages from this time I have not responsed to. If your message was one of these and you would still like an answer then please feel free to ask again and I will be more than happy to help. You can find the original message in my archive here. I will be taking some time to get back up to speed with things and read up on any changes that have happened since I've been away but will now be around to respond to any messages. Sarahj2107 (talk) 09:21, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Commune by the Great Wall

@Sarahj2107:, sorry for the ping as urgent clarification needed. Thanks admin for cleanup, but then [1] this Afd? Can I replace the Afd tag on the page? Need advices --Quek157 (talk) 13:06, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Quek157: I didn't see the AfD template, thanks for letting me know. I've now added it back. Sarahj2107 (talk) 13:11, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
thanks, I CSD for urgent attention for G11 / G12 after issues are raised in the Afd, and I checnked almost every version except that (the whole list of contributors are socks and etc). Will wait for Afd to close then and anyway, voted there as keep also. --Quek157 (talk) 13:13, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Panihati Dandomahotsav

Panihatichidautsav.in website link was given to the wikipedia page. Why are you deleted this pagge ? I was want to share this festival to all public not for business purpose. already in my wiki pagge, i mentioned thhe website link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subherjeesr (talk • contribs) 04:00, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Subherjeesr, I'm sorry but I had to delete Panihati Dandomahotsav as copyright infringment. Even if a link to the source is provided, Wikipedia can't legaly host copyrighted material. If you hold the copyright you can consider donating the material to Wikipedia. Information on how to do that is at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. However, if you want to recreate the page I would suggest you write it in your own words and only use the linked website as a source. If you need any more help let me know. Sarahj2107 (talk) 07:51, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

why delete my article ????

sir why delete my article (saqlain baqir)???? this is my personal biography . please tell me Saqlain5 (talk) 10:28, 28 May 2018 (UTC)Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).[reply]

Hi Saqlain5, I'm sorry but your article was deleted because it did not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject. Wikipedia is not a social media site or a place for personal biographies. Subjects need to meet the notability guidelines or at the very least say why they should have an article. Sarahj2107 (talk) 10:56, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Vincent Edwards

Vincent Edwards does have a son with autism. I think everyone at least knows he has a son, there are many articles that mention him. At least leave that in there. As for the autism diagnosis, he has posted on his ig story about it. And trace edwards mom is constantly discussing it on her IG. Maybe you could properly add that back.

I'm not saying he doesn't or that it shouldn't be in the article, just that if it is, it needs to be supported by an independent, reliable source as per our biographies of living people policy. Sarahj2107 (talk) 14:28, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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15 days

Dear Sarah, Thanks for your post on my talk page. Have you read 15 days? The page (after the lead section) seems to serve no purpose except for to disparage the game, saying it is boring and had no suspense. I agree it is not your typical attack page, but it does not meet any of Wikipedia's guidelines, does it? I guess I will nominate the page for a non-speedy deletion. CheeseCrisps (talk) 16:41, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@CheeseCrisps: I did read it. While it may be a little one sided, I don't think it meets the criteria for G10. We'll see what other people think at the AfD. Sarahj2107 (talk) 16:46, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

AOAC INTERNATIONAL

Hi Sarah-Jane, My name is Bob Rathbone (rrathbone@aoac.org) and I’m the editor at AOAC INTERNATIONAL, and I’d recently updated AOAC’s Wikipedia page. I’m writing this because I believe you just reverted this page back to old and outdated information? I’m just learning about Wikipedia, so please let me know how to make the needed changes. A lot of the information now displayed is more than 15-20 years old. 73.134.219.236 (talk) 13:20, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bob. The information that was added to the article was removed for two reasons. One, it was a copyright violation. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material. Two, it was overly promotional. As an encyclopedia the content must be written in a neutral and unbiased tone. The type of language used on company/organisation websites is not suitable here.
As someone who works for AOAC International you also have a conflict of interest so should be careful when editing the article yourself. I understand that it is out dated but I think the best way to improve it is to make suggestions on the article talk page and allow other editors to make the changes for you. Sarahj2107 (talk) 15:24, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Sarah,

Thank you for the fast response. The article was edited before it was deleted. Can we please go back to the unedited version as that one had many sources and was also no promotional in nature.


Hi Sarah-Jane, Thank you. As one editor to another, could you then help and make the changes for me? I need to somehow update our site (AOAC is now a standards development organization!) in line with the Wikipedia rules, and I’m wondering if you could somehow paraphrase from the information I’d posted. I’m happy if you’d also edit whatever you deem to be overly promotional. Bob73.134.219.236 (talk) 12:07, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah-Jane,I read AOAC’s Wikipedia page this morning, and I want to thank you for adding some new information regarding sections, publications, etc. But, I still need you to update the information about AOAC’s business. The page incorrectly states that “AOAC International's technical contributions center on the creation, validation, and global publication of reliable analytical test methods.” In fact, AOAC changed what it does. We no longer develop and validate analytical methods, but instead, we develop voluntary consensus standards against which methods can now be judged. A lot has changed over the past 15-20 years.
I appreciate your continued help. Regards, Bob50.249.43.187 (talk) 15:42, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sarah-Jane, With our newest update to the AOAC page, I’m surprised you immediately reverted back to the old outdated information. The new copy was finely edited, and wasn’t promotional, and by posting it, we accept that it can be and will be edited in the future by the Wikipedia community. I’m not indicating any copyright status. Did you read it before you reverted back to the old?50.249.43.187 (talk) 14:30, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think I have been more than patient with you about this, but with you now calling me a vandal and accusing me of acting in bad faith that patience has worn out. I will be having nothing more to do with this article eccept reporting any more edits that go against Wikipedia policies. Sarahj2107 (talk) 15:19, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Erik Gatenholm page

Hello Sarah,

I hope you're doing well and that you're having a great start of the day. You recently removed the page for Erik Gatenholm, it was a few days ago. I'm not sure why this was removed. Was there something incorrect on the page? I'd like to see how we can resolve this.

Have a great day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Egatenholm (talk • contribs) 07:23, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Egatenholm,
The page was removed following a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erik Gatenholm. At Articles for Deletion, editors will assess the article to see if it meets our guidelines and policies. After at least 7 days, 17 in this case, an uninvolved admin will determine the overall consensus of the discussion and close accordingly. In this case I determined the consensus to be to delete the article as it didn't meet our notability guidelines and was overly promotional. To prove notability there would need to be significant coverage in multiple independent, reliable sources.
If you are the subject of this article you will have a conflict of interest. I would suggest reading our guidelines of autobiographies.
If you have any more questions just ask and I'll be happy to help. Sarahj2107 (talk) 08:14, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sarah,

Thank you for the fast response. The article was edited before it was deleted. Can we please go back to the unedited version as that one had many sources and was also no promotional in nature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Egatenholm (talk • contribs) 08:36, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid not. The editors who took part in the deletion discussion will have looked at the history of the article and will have done an independent search for reliable sources before giving their opinion. It's isn't just the most recent version of the article that is looked at. Sarahj2107 (talk) 09:54, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that update Sarah. But this is very surprising... the sources that are presented are BBC and many other globally reliable newspapers and media outlets. And none of the articles are paid or considered to be promotional or marketing.

Sahuarita Unified School District

Hi Sarahj2017. You revdeleted some content from Sahuarita Unified School District because it was flagged as a copyright violation by Whpq. Nathanl01444 appears to be a new editor who is employed by the school district and who has been assigned to update the article; unfortunately, Nathanl01444 seems to misunderstand WP:COPY and appears to have basically re-added the same content again. I've removed it, but was wondering if you'd take a look at it a revdelete anything that needs to be revdeleted. Perhaps you can also post something on Nathanl01444's explaining why they shouldn't do this again. I'm trying to keep the links to a minimum but the content appears to come from susd30.us/about/ -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:38, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know Marchjuly, I've done the revdel and left them a note. I'll keep an eye on the situation.Sarahj2107 (talk) 09:07, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for checking on this Sarahj2107 and thanks for taking the time to add a message on the editor's user talk page. FWIW, the Duplicator Detector showed quite a bit of overlap, but Earwig came up empty probably because of the way the source website is formatted. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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On improvment of Ujjawal Krishnam

The article, which I created and disclosed as WP:COI has been nominated for deletion. It is not a method of canvassing that I approached you, but I wish that article must be kept. May you please highlight your independent view point? AchaksurvisayaUdvejin (talk) 04:58, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

Yes, I can back up my information with sources. What do you need to see? I have screen captures, twitter links, ect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poiena (talk • contribs) 12:45, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Poiena: Any controversial edits about a living person need to backed up by reliable sources, especially something as serious as accusing someone of being involved in issuing death threats. Screen captures and twitter links are not reliable sources and cannot be used to support such claims. Any re-addition of these allegations using those sources may result in a block. Sarahj2107 (talk) 13:07, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edits to AOAC page

Hi Sarah, I am the consultant that updated the AOAC page. Bob Rathbone (you had a discussion with him earlier) asked me to make the updates. I read that you removed some things, not sure what the where. All of the edits I made were from Bob at AOAC. Can you Identify the problem items and I will check with Bob.

Thanks, Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.134.24.178 (talk) 21:32, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I will repeat what I said above
The information that was added to the article was removed for two reasons. One, it was a copyright violation. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material. Two, it was overly promotional. As an encyclopedia the content must be written in a neutral and unbiased tone. The type of language used on company/organisation websites is not suitable here.
As someone who works for AOAC International you also have a conflict of interest so should be careful when editing the article yourself...I think the best way to improve it is to make suggestions on the article talk page and allow other editors to make the changes for you.
I'm aware that there are still some inaccuracies that need to be updated, and I will try to do this. However, you need to understand that Wikipedia articles are summaries of the information found in independent, reliable sources. This is not a social media site, or somewhere like LinkedIn where an organisation has complete control over that appears on the page; AOAC has no control over what is on their page here. So, I'm sorry but while I will try to make sure it is as accurate as possible, it will never look exactly like you want it to. Sarahj2107 (talk) 09:08, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Justification

Hi,

I didn't find the any promotional in my page. I was sharing my opinion on that, it was just my first draft my page. May I know why page was sent to deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shakthi24 (talk • contribs) 11:30, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Shakthi24: - Things like "We have debut in 2010 and have hosted over 75 seminars with more than 1000 participants.", "Mix with the Masters residential seminars are held at the Studios La Fabrique in South of France which is the perfect setting to both learn and relax." and "Andrew Scheps has an incredible career of achievements..." to list a few are defiantly promotional, it doesn't matter that your are not connected to the subject or are not making any money out of it. Wikipedia is not a place to share your opinion, article must be a neural, unbiased way summary of information in reliable sources. Sarahj2107 (talk) 12:04, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have told you it's just a first draft which got published, it would be very kind if you undo the process, so that after completion of the page. you will be able see the justification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shakthi24 (talk • contribs) 12:47, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter that it's a first draft, and it has been "published" even though it is not in the main Article name space. Everything saved after clicking the Publish Changes button is published. All content on Wikipedia regardless of if it is an article, a draft or in your user sandbox, must comply with our policies and guidelines on promotional content and spamming. I cannot undo the process and there is no "justification" that will allow such promotional content to be published here. Sarahj2107 (talk) 12:54, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Smarkets article

Hi Sarah-Jane, I wanted to get in touch to contest the deletion of an article I contributed: the page on British technology firm and betting exchange Smarkets.

This article was deleted for failing notability criteria, however these criteria - WP:GNG - state that "if a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article". I'd argue that all of these criteria are met. The organisation has received significant coverage (being the main topic) from numerous reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as The Guardian[1], Sky[2], BBC[3], AFP[4][5], Moneyweek[6], and RTL[7] (in French, starts at 2:30).

I recommended keeping the article when deletion was proposed, but this was disputed on the grounds that the sources fail WP:NCORP independence criteria, specifically that they are not "intellectually independent".

The criteria according to WP:NCORP are:

  • Independence of the author (and clearly this is the case).
  • Independence of the content, or "intellectual independence", meaning that "the content must not be produced by interested parties. Too often a related party produces a narrative that is then copied, regurgitated, and published in whole or in part by independent parties (as exemplified by churnalism)."

I would strongly argue that the coverage by Moneyweek, The Guardian, Sky, RTL, and AFP all represent significant, intellectually independent reporting on the subject by a reliable source.

Not least because the Sky and AFP coverage specifically sets the company's salary review policy in the context of the wider societal discussion of the UK's gender pay gap; the RTL piece addresses the salary policy in the context of employee freedom (an analysis of Smarkets' company culture); and the Moneyweek piece, despite mentioning an employee, analyses the company's chances of success on its own merits, without recourse to primary sources. This coverage, which includes three major European broadcasters ostensibly travelling to the offices of the company, is clearly a very long way from churnalism.

I would love your thoughts on the above and am hopeful the article can be reinstated. I propose, if it is, that I add in a couple of extra sources (specifically the Moneyweek and Guardian articles, which I had not included) to further demonstrate the qualifying coverage, and therefore notability.

Thanks in advance, Chopz Chopz (talk) 16:30, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/oct/03/ibas-bet-declared-void-should-be-paid-out
  2. ^ https://news.sky.com/video/large-firms-to-justify-fat-cat-pay-11400294
  3. ^ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-44045911/the-london-company-allowing-employees-to-decide-your-pay
  4. ^ https://www.yahoo.com/news/london-firm-revamps-pay-letting-staff-set-salaries-031253635.html?guccounter=1
  5. ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6t4fNMk4jY
  6. ^ https://moneyweek.com/betting-on-politics-a-new-betting-exchange/
  7. ^ https://www.rtl.fr/emission/rtl-monde/rtl-monde-du-04-avril-2018-7792896915
Hi Chopz. All I did was determine consensus at the AfD, which was very clearly to delete. You put forward the above sources during the AfD and other editors reviewed and commented on them. I can't go against that consensus and restore the page, even with these sources included. You have two options at the moment. 1) If you think that one of the criteria listed here is met you can open a discussion at WP:Deletion review. 2) You can create a draft and work to find and add additional sources to support notability, and then submit it through WP:AfC. If you need any help with either of those options, let me know. Sarahj2107 (talk) 17:20, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sarahj2107. Thanks for your explanation and kind offer to help. I'll look this stuff over and let you know. Chopz (talk) 18:05, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Bobby Nelson

July 15, 2018


Hello Sarahj2017,


I am composing this message to inquire about your recent deletion for the article Bobby Nelson. I would appreciate some insight and direction on the possibility of restoration for the article. All of the reviews and deletion posts from the editors were all taken into consideration while re-editing the article. I made sure to add corrections, references, verifiable sources, and necessary revisions.

I also added credible references from sources such as IMDB, PR sites, and other articles where Bobby Nelson and his notable work were mentioned - as there was questioning as to whether Bobby Nelson's television appearances were credible and able to be proven. Also, there are several other television appearances made by Bobby Nelson that had not yet added onto the page yet - in response to one user mentioned that one television co-star appearance was not enough to have a Wikipedia page.

Would you be generous enough to undelete the page and give me and other editors time and opportunity to add more credible work from Bobby Nelson, in which will be able to be proven and cited from multiple reliable sources, on top of the ones that were already added? I was in the process of adding more references, additional television work, and citations before the page was deleted. Hope to hear back soon -- appreciate your time and consideration.

Best, NJPRWORK — Preceding unsigned comment added by Njprwork (talk • contribs) 08:13, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Njprwork, I deleted the article as a result of the outcome at the deletion discussion, where consensus was clearly to deleted. I cant go against that consensus and restore the article.
References from sites such as IMDB are not considered reliable and PR sites will not be independent as they are usually written by a business or person hired by or affiliated with the the subject. As such, these types of references cant be used to support notability.
You have two options at the moment. 1) If you think that one of the criteria listed here is met you can open a discussion at WP:Deletion review. 2) You can create a draft and work to find and add additional, reliable, independent sources to support notability, and then submit it through WP:AfC.
On a final note, you username suggests you may be editing here as part of a job "prwork". If this is the case, you need to declare that as outlined in our policy - Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure, which you need to fully read and understand. Users who do not follow our policy on paid editing are blocked from editing.
If you require any further help, please let me know. Sarahj2107 (talk) 10:30, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request for page Opening

Dear Sarahj2107

Can you kindly open this page Joseph Kalimbwe you protected from creation? The page was deleted for not having notable sources. I have sense found more reliable sources and wish to first submit as a draft for review rather than create instantly as it will need to be reviewed beforehand.

Best regards

105.232.255.39 (talk) 17:56, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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