Talk:At That Point

This article was nominated for deletion on 5 August 2010 (UTC). The result of the discussion was merge to Teairra Marí.

This article was nominated for deletion on 19 June 2010 (UTC). The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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No No

The song No No is not a leaked song, it's released as an single. (itunes link [1] )

Its a song from 2008. --Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:56, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article Re-creation

I'm going to remove the redirect and recreate the article with more details, etc. HooDooMooDoo (talk)

I'm commenting here because there seems to be a potential edit war brewing. HooDooMooDoo (talk)

My redirection

@HooDooMooDoo: This was originally destined for your talk page, but for posterity's sake I'll leave it here instead. I apologize for not explaining what terms I was using meant when I redirected this. I honestly assumed you were a more-experienced editor than you are because of the article's quality. For what it's worth, I'm perfectly willing to explain the notability guidelines to you if you have any questions about them, or anything else, so please ask. To be more specific, I mentioned "significant coverage" as my reason for redirecting. Significant coverage basically means the coverage of the subject in a source isn't merely a mention or the like; it's something substantial. It's somewhat hard to quantify this, and interpretations vary somewhat, but I myself like to see multiple paragraphs in a source that are specifically about the subject you're writing on. I looked at a dozen of the more promising-looking sources, and found that they (in my editorial view) were more about, for example, Marí, although I will freely admit that I am only human and may have overlooked something.

Because of this, it would likely not survive a discussion at Articles for Deletion, which tends to be belligerent about the music notability guidelines. It's hard to keep the crap out otherwise; if we didn't have those guidelines, there would, no exaggeration, be an article with no real content for every album and song in existence (I've redirected many myself). For what it's worth, I can try to give you guidance on sources to look for; I would see if you cannot find any articles that discuss the release (the day it was released is often a good time to look, or when the release date was announced). The drama between Marí and Milian about rights to songs could also be promising. But any two (independent) sources that discuss the album at some length would appease and me most deletionists. Regards, —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 21:08, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I understand what your saying you wan't me to provide a reliable source that states when the album was released or the relevant things that started after and before the album's release I just wanna let you know that I actually work with Teairra and she told me that the album was released but did not reach a huge success that she expected it to and that her label forced her to re-enter the studio and attempt to re-publish the album so the album was removed from stores but I still have a CD of it that does not really work. --HooDooMooDoo (talk)

Actually, I seem to have confused you. I want sources that cover the album in some depth, because the notability guideline for albums demands it; the release and such were merely suggestions on where to find those. For example, an article discussing when the album comes out will likely be significant coverage, whereas an iTunes page is not. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 01:35, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I can see that you want me to provide at least 5 sources that say the release date of the album and I will be adding them to the article in a few I can even ask Teairra some more details and sources about the album's release date. --HooDooMooDoo (talk)