Talk:Margareta of Romania

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Accused by Humanité- the French Communist Party Newspaper

Accused by Humanité newspaper, the French Communist Party Organ???? This is really serious, terrible! How will she ever get over this? Wow! How awful! Poor woman. Arkadiam 21:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Former organ. The political affiliation of the newspaper is, anyways, irrelevant. The newspaper report had quoted the AFP press agency: "puisqu’une très sérieuse dépêche AFP d’hier annonce (...)." Stefanp 21:52, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. You do not know what the AFP dépêche actually wrote. If you can find that, then you can quote it. It is l' Humanité that you are quoting, and that is your source. If Humanité's source is AFP that is their problem.

Second,the political affiliation of a newspaper is very important, readers have the right to know as much as possible about a source quoted in Wikipedia in order to assess it's verifiability and reliability. It is Wikipedia policy

[[1]] and [[2]] among other wikipedia pages.Arkadiam 10:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which "royal family of Hohenzollern"?

Translation of the pertinent fragment from "Blackberry Juice" (in Romanian), Gandul, June 21, 2006: "Although it is known that some of the rust of the British frigates ended up in the pockets of the royal family of Hohenzollern, the Romanian authorities rushed to muzzle the affair. Because, as a two penny nation, we have groveled so much before a king crushed by history, that after we had "forgiven" him for his father's mistakes, for his flirting with the fascist salute, and for the "Pobeda" order of daddy Stalin, we didn't shy away from calling "highness" even an eater of public funds, through whose veins a blackberry ("duda" in Romanian) juice runs." It is clear that the fragment speaks of that royal family of Hohenzollern to which both Radu Duda and King Michael - who ruled under the Nazis, was decorated by Stalin, and whose father, King Carol II, made the mistakes of giving away Bessarabia, Bucovina, and the NV of Transylvania without a fight - belong: the Romanian royal family. Ergo, it is Princess Margarita's family which is being discussed in the article, not another. Stefanp 23:11, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice of you to translate for us. The author says the "royal family of Hohenzollern," so if you are using this source you must be precise, even if he is wrong. M.Dinescu does not say Margarita's family got the money, it is very clear from your translation. AFAIK the Romanian RF seems to get on quite badly with the Hohenzollerns. That she comes from Hohenzollern stock does not lead to the automatic conclusion that "her" family got the money. Editors must be sensitive when writing biographies of living people and adhere strictly to NPOV and avoid "interpretations" of the sources. Just quote them as precisely as possible.[[3]].Arkadiam 10:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]