Talk:Quba Khanate

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Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:21, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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@Kansas Bear:, check seventeenth page[1] again. And that quasi-independent phrase can be deleted since it's unsourced. Shahanshah5 (talk) 11:46, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Shahanshah5:, why don't you check page 17. Notice the number in the top right hand. Your viewer does not show page numbers on the page. Also, "later becoming powerful" is nonsensical term and tells the reader nothing.

"And that quasi-independent phrase can be deleted since it's unsourced."

Is it? Going from what is written in the article:

"In 1689, he came to Bashli and took back the hereditary governorship..."

Hmmmm....who was in power over this area in 1689 when this was established? S....a...f...

What means Saf? Shahanshah5 (talk) 06:58, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"The Khanate achieved quasi-independence after the assassination of Nader Shah in 1747."

Wait quasi-independence? Quasi means...."resembling; seeming; virtual:"...hmmm.

AND, since you can not/will not read your own source, page 2;

"In 1747 Nadir Shah..[..]..was assassinated in a palace coup..[..]. The circumstances effectively terminated the suzerainty of Persia over Azerbaijan, where local center of power emerged in the form of indigenous principalities, independent or virtually so, inasmuch as some maintained tenuous links to Persia's weak Zand dynasty.[..].. Most of the principalities were orgainzed as khanates, small replicas of the Persian monarchy, including Karabagh, Sheki, Ganja, Baku, Derbent, Kuba, ......"

So, it wasn't established under Safavid suzerainty? It didn't become quasi-independent upon Nader Shah's assassination?

Why you ask me that wasn't it established under Safavid suzerainty? Shahanshah5 (talk) 06:58, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So other editors should just assume that you are cherry-picking information from Swietochowski's book or you haven't read it completely?

Maybe you should find more than one book on this subject, quit editing nonsense into the lead of articles, and try reading for a change. --Kansas Bear (talk) 14:21, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm curious that how it could be quasi-independent and powerful khanate at the same time. Shahanshah5 (talk) 06:58, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]