Talk:List of masts

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Merger nomination

The table of radio masts in the list of tallest buildings and structures in the world article is not nearly as exhaustive as this one, not even for the ones above 600 meters; however, it's entirely possible some of the masts in that table are not listed here. Therefore, that table should be merged into this one; even to copy the over-600 meter section of this article into the other one would overwhelm what is already a long article. --RBBrittain 06:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article was nominated for deletion on 28 July 2006. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Oldest talk

The text at the top of this page should probably be moved out of this article and into something like mast (tower). —User:Mulad (talk) 03:00, Sep 7, 2004 (UTC)

Please check, if there is not listed any mast of the US under different names!

Try to find out all masts taller than 500 metres!

Emley Moor TV Tower and uperstacks are not guyed and belong to List of towers.

Please put the article on a correct form!

The word "mast" is never used for broadcasting towers in the US or Canada. 18.26.0.18 06:44, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Shoreview cluster

I'm having difficulty tracking down any heights, but there is a cluster of towers in Shoreview, Minnesota that are very tall. One that collapsed while under construction in 1971 was 1285 feet tall, according to [1], and one currently in existence is said to be 1400 feet tall, though I'm not sure how precise that height is. —User:Mulad (talk) 01:29, Jan 18, 2005 (UTC)

List of catastrophic collapses of masts

At transmission tower there is an (incomplete) liste of mast collapse catastrophes. Please make this list complete!

That is now on its own page at Radio masts and towers - catastrophic collapses--Spliced 11:02, 14 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Identity unclear

Masts withe the comment (identity unclear) cannot be found by the help of http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/asrRegistrationSearch.jsp . Perhaps they are identic with other masts in the table! Check these masts!

Article naming

A lot of these seem to be poorly named. Pinnacle Towers Tower Mooringsport, from what I can tell from google, should probably be [[Pinnacle Towers tower (Mooringsport)]], as "Pinnacle Towers Tower Mooringsport" gets no hits, and "Pinnacle Towers Tower" doesn't seem to be a proper name either, just a descriptor for a tower owned by "Pinnacle Towers". ~~~~

Planned towers

I am removing articles on planned towers because wikipedia has a policy that wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Dave the Red (talk) 05:51, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

KWTV Mast

Was KWTV Mast rebuilt in 1986? According to http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/asrResults.jsp?searchType=TRL there is no mast from a height around 480 metres built in 1954!

Fantastic List!

The list is, I must say very fantastic! I saw never such a detailed list! But please extend the table as follow:

First Column: Name of mast Second Column: Town where mast is Third Column: Country where mast is Fourth Column: Year of Built Fifth Column: Use (longwave, mediumwave, UHF/VHF, meteorological/scientific experiments)

Skyguy

Policy discussion on mast articles

A policy discussion has been opened here to examine the question of how best to manage Wikipedia's growing collection of mast articles.

The proposal is to extend the table in this article (List of masts) and merge the information (location, coordinates, owner, purpose) into additional table columns.

Please feel free to contribute to the discussion. --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 22:03, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The policy discussion seems to be leaning heavily towards merging many of the mast articles into the existing table. Several proposed formats for the merged table are being discussed at List of masts/Sample tables. Comments and proposals are encouraged. What do people use these tables for? What are we missing? --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 19:05, 3 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Article format

Hi all.

This article doesn't really follow Wikipedia convention for List of... articles. Usually, such articles have—at most— a couple of paragraphs of introductory material describing the nature of the list. Lengthy descriptive material is most often placed in the main article on the topic. For the List of masts, this material belongs in Radio mast. By merging the content there, we avoid duplicating content and effort between the two articles. Also, this article already has some truly gigantic tables; shortening the list article certainly wouldn't hurt....

If one our resident mast experts would like to merge the content from here over into radio mast, that would be great. If nobody steps up, I'll take a (nonexpert) stab at it myself. Cheers, TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 23:56, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Further columns

Table contains now columns (town and remarks)

Russian 460 metre mast

Try to find out more about the Russian 460 metre radio mast

Wind turbines

These have been overlooked and need to be added. Sub-200m. Sleigh 23:36, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merging

Congratulations and thanks to User:Ksax on finally doing the merge. I would prefer the name List of masts though - it's consistent with other lists in Wikipedia. -- I@n ≡ talk 17:04, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dismantled/collapsed masts

Added a new section above, as ex-masts, while interesting (and I'm not suggesting removing them completely) should not be in the main tables. -- I@n ≡ talk 17:04, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Need a cutoff

It's a nonsense to have a section titled "Masts shorter than 200 meters". That could include every mast ever built. This article desperately needs an overall inclusion criteria. I suggest 300 meters. -- I@n ≡ talk 17:04, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've been bold and removed masts less than 300 m -- I@n ≡ talk 12:08, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! It was necessary!

Cutoff 200m?

would it be ok if i made the cutoff for 200 meters?

please put planned list back on...with catch

Could you please put the planned tower list back on? Put it on only if it has a license to build approved from the FCC or something of that nature. Thank you!

I have no idea what you asking -- I@n ≡ talk 12:10, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to know which towers are planning to go up, if they are known to be going up by a published source. This is to obey the rule that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.

Cannot the complete list be saved?

Is it impossible to save the complete list in a sensitive way? Why not to move it into Wikisource? Would be a good idea!

Please note that Wikisource no longer accepts reference data, including tables of data or lists, per its inclusion guidelines. I've deleted a page recently created there with this list. // [admin] Pathoschild (^talk/_map) 10:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Still failing to see the point

There are 14,000 broadcast stations just in the United States, and a good number of them have tall towers. That doesn't make the towers in themselves notable ot encyclopedic. Having a list of them is at least arguable (although you can find them just as easily in ASRS which is not only an official source but in the public domain). As someone who has both seen and written about a lot of broadcast facilities, I don't see the point of dumping all this data into WP without a great deal more editorial effort, even if Wiki is not paper. (And I would note that many of the stubs about U.S. towers were clearly created by someone who had no knowledge of them beyond what is shown in ASRS—might as well just name the articles "Antenna structure number 1023456" and so on—and did not write them in American English.) I believe these articles are forever destined to be of very low average quality. (Speaking only of the U.S. towers as I have no direct knowledge to evaluate the articles about other countries' towers.) 121a0012 08:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see no reason for these stubs to exist. I can just about see the reason for this list, but the data in the stubs should just be in the list (as I think it is) and the stubs tidied away to the great e-bin. Skittle 22:44, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Get rid of the stubs. It's eating bandwidth and most of these towers are not notable at all. --Zpb52 05:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've started a "special" AfD for the stubs, using this article as a kind of anchor. This deletion request does 'not include the List of masts article itself.

If we're going to be stuck with all these articles

It would be good if editors familiar with the industry and the areas where these towers are located would fix the article names. Most of them appear to have been made up by whomever started this article, who clearly was not a native English speaker nor a U.S. broadcast engineer. (I would also point out that the "mast versus tower" confusion does not exist among the engineers I know -- they are universally "towers". "Mast" means something else. This and related articles currently privilege civil-engineering jargon over broadcast-engineering jargon, which seems an inappropriate choice to me. [Of course, they also privilege en_GB usage over en_US usage, which is so commonplace in WP as to be hardly noticeable even if still irritating.]) 121a0012 07:13, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup - Height inaccuracies

Most of the heights given in feet are way off, especially those towards the bottom of the list. Mgiganteus1 13:07, 1 October 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Tagged this article for cleanup because of this problem. TRosenbaum 14:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC).[reply]

LORAN-C, CHAYKA, RSDN-20

There may be still masts taller than 300 metres used for LORAN-C, CHAYKA and RSDN-20. Fnd out the height of these towers!