User talk:Cahk

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I do not understand why you want to delete my article,have I violated any laws or policies?

I do not understand why you want to delete my article,have I violated any laws or policies? Alpha Wachira1 (talk) 10:12, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@Alpha Wachira1: See WP:U5.--Cahk (talk) 10:13, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE......I JUST UPLOADED AN ARTICLE....HOW DOES THAT VIOLATE YOUR LAWS????Alpha Wachira1 (talk) 10:22, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@Alpha Wachira1: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a web-site builder. Information not relevant to the project will be deleted by an administrator.--Cahk (talk) 10:23, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

I didn't realize the rules, I thought I was making like a profile page since most forums or whatever this would be considered have you make a profile when u first sign up. If I was in the wrong go ahead and delete the page. I don't know how yet Hot-pass-hand84 (talk) 15:43, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

M H

Hi yes!

I am currently working with my attorneys etc, and i had to found all online information on this person. That's when i realized his Wikipedia page is still open, and unchanged, and as he has used to trick underage children/minors into sexual abuse situations. So this is my first time ive ever posted on Wikipedia and was trying to figure out how references/sources work.

I've updated now with some references and sources, many, many more will be added. This man is highly dangerous. He has been convicted of the rape of more than 20 kids, including my friends. And is very well known in Norway/police.

If my references isnt enough, please for the sake of God, put his page on hold or something until you have received/confirmed this through police/Kripos (FBI of Norway) or by any means you need. But for the love of God, please do not let this man exploit his past reputation and wikipedia as a way to grab young naive kids into a "dangerously emotionless rapist" (direct quotation from the court, and in the reference i gave).

You can contact me on my phone if you want, my attorney as well, etc.

Thank you, and i beg for understanding and patience in this matter. Translate and read the articles, read what he did. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LarsMidt (talk • contribs) 08:30, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@LarsMidt: I've reviewed the 2 links you added as citation - nowhere did it mention Harg's name (feel free to correct me if I am mistaken). I would also assume a well-known Norwegian politician (with his own Wikipedia page in that language) would also mention something similar to what you have alleged (but there's nothing). I have also conducted a Google search and found no mention of the information you indicated. In accordance with WP:BLPREMOVE, the information must be removed until such time you can provide sources that indicate Harg's involvement in those court cases as you have alleged. Wikipedia can't use personally gathering information - it must be cited somewhere.--Cahk (talk) 08:54, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

By Norwegian law the media is not allowed to post names of any criminal during a trial. But I can give you the number to the judge? How can he use sources and citations that does not include his name, but in regards to rape situation it's suddenly strict? Is there any office my attorneys can send you court documents?

Check the text above?

"Morten Harg" (in Norwegian). Storting. "Gravdahl gjenvalgt i Bærum". Aftenposten Aften (in Norwegian). 18 November 1983. p. 3. "Etterbørsnotiser". Dagens Næringsliv (in Norwegian). 7 July 1998. p. 39. Magnor, Per Th. (12 March 1999). "Utfører ordre med godt mot". Aftenposten Aften (in Norwegian). p. 4.

None of these sources are even valid anymore, nor does they mention any names i think. Why can he spout whatever he wants unchecked, but when I actually come to help Wikipedia avoid more children being hurt it's scrutinized beyond belief? It is right there, the entire article even details his life story!...

I am speaking at an upcoming event for more than 1000 doctors and politicians in Europe, specifically on online security and dangers, and this seriously has to change. People are being hurt every week because of this Wikipedia page. As the police says, if you don't do anything.. The kids you will see in the next court case with their lives destroyed are on you and Wikipedia. And i'm sad to say this, but i will have my attorneys contact Wikipedia HQ/PR about this. At least remove/temporarily pause his website until i can gather every document you want..

@LarsMidt: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not an investigative/report platform. and thus, contacting outside agencies is not an activity to be undertaken by editors (and in any event, such action would make the source a primary source). If you wish to obtain more editing advice, you are free to visit the Teahouse or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography to discuss the matter. Please be careful as editors (like myself and others) are coming from around the world to edit pages voluntarily, none of us represent Wikipedia. Your message above constitute as a Legal threat, and thus, your account will be reported for further action in accordance with Wikipedia policy. --Cahk (talk) 09:07, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Can you explain to me, legal threat? A threat, or a legal threat? (Like a lawsuit). I don't really understand you. If it's about attorneys having to contact Wikipedia, then that's my legal right is it not. Especially if the website contains material deemed harmful by Norwegian/EU governments?

If it's about public speaking, then that's what I've been asked by a team of worldwide specialists to do.

If it's the comment "The children's lives will be on your hands", that's literally a direct quote the judge/police told a friend of mine when he was afraid to testify. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LarsMidt (talk • contribs) 09:57, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Edit; Ah, I see now. Legal threat. That was not directed at you, or any editors, but Wikipedia as a organization. Rofl, there is no legal basis to sue any individual freelancing editor. But I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

Though you have not answered why his entire page is without any reliable reference/sources, and a bit of the information is as ridiculously untrue as it possibly gets, though when I try to add perhaps the only information it should be there. It's not possible?

And I am forced to consider filing a complaint on the fact that you misappropriate what i had written and went so far as to report my account without even waiting for a response. It was very clear by my message i am talking about Wikipedia. You are an anonymous online editor doing your job. I understand that. Exactly why I mentioned it'll have to go through attorneys then, with Wikipedia.

And not only so, but you dont respond to anything of the important questions such that i can actually work on having the documents you need.

@LarsMidt: At no point were your comments misappropriated - all Wikipedia interactions between editors are logged and completely transparent. I actually did respond to your proposal re: documents in my previous reply, and cited links as to why that is not possible. 3 separate administrators reviewed your writings, and determined them to be of legal threats. While it may not be your intention at all, that's what was perceived by 4 separate individuals. As I am not an administrator, I am not in a position to resolve your dispute. You may wish to follow the procedure as outlined on your talk page for further information. --Cahk (talk) 15:57, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Reference

Hi Cahk,

What the best reference I had for Musa'ad bin Khalid Al Saud, I put it in his biography. The new reference was added 1 week ago. Can you please have a look and let me know your thoughts?

Rishi.kh (talk) 10:50, 14 August 2019 (UTC)Rishi

@Rishi.kh: Looks good to me.--Cahk (talk) 15:51, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Removal of Suncom Technologies article

Please provide a useful answer, as to why my article was removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hlev3 (talk • contribs) 17:30, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@Hlev3: Per my July 19 reply: "It was moved to draft, and subsequently deleted by an admin. You will need to leave a message with that administrator as I am not privy to the subsequent actions." --Cahk (talk) 01:24, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Diane

Hi.

I've been adding cited, documented statements based on the exact text of the articles cited.

The edits are being revered.

I am unsure how to cite an action that hasn't happened, much like I would be unsure how to cite "Canada has never invaded Pakistan"

Given that the statements are factual and cited, why are facts being scrubbed?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trevormerritt (talk • contribs) 12:46, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

@Trevormerritt: Plain and simple: Your addition had absolutely no relevance to the subject of the article.--Cahk (talk) 12:47, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

I'd like to add it to a new article that covers the 2019 tent city in Peterborough, and link from her page to this one that documents the process.

Would that be more appropriate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trevormerritt (talk • contribs) 12:48, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

@Trevormerritt: I am still unsure how Canada-Pakistan relationship has anything to do with a tent city in your neighbourhood. In any event, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia - not a news platform or forum. Creating a new article requires meeting the guideline on notability. I have no knowledge of the matter you are describing, so I can't comment on whether it would meet the threshold.--Cahk (talk) 12:57, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Ok. Its been the primary topic of discussion in town for the last few months and it looks like its going to explode soon so having the history documented would, if you ask me, be of value to see how we got where we are. Decisions, good and bad, got us here.