User talk:Greenguytroy

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old census data

I usually move any sentences about the previous sentence into the appropriate chronological spot in the History section. I think it's useful if people want to compare the most recent population data with early data to get a sense of whether the population of the area is rising or falling or whatever. My longer term desire is to construct a population table using both recent census data available online and this historic data. Kerry (talk) 06:01, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Census data

While it's great that you're taking the time to update census figures, it appears as if you're using the wrong figures. The Australian locality articles have always been done on the basis that any figures, etc, refer to the gazetted locality, rather than any larger urban area (since we have other articles on those places). For census purposes, this equates to the SSC (State Suburb) boundaries and figures. As a result, it gets really confusing if you've got people picking random other population figures from the ABS instead of the figures consistently used everywhere else. The Drover's Wife (talk) 06:55, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@The Drover's Wife: Thanks for the clarification, as I have seen SSC, UCL and SUA all used. In terms of population figures, is it also preferred to use the most current ABS ERP figures (as it is my understanding that these are the most official figures, whereas the 5 Yearly Census figures are used for more detailed data e.g. Ancestry - http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/abs@.nsf/0/72998BF081BECAE5CA2577FF0012082F)?

Generally we use the latest ABS census population in the infobox. We use SSC if it's a suburb or bounded locality. If it's a town (multiple suburbs/localities), then we use UCL (or SUA if they are really big) for the towns and SSCs for the individual suburb/locality articles. The tricky (but quite common case) is that we have a small town in a single suburb/locality which leaves us in a bit of an indecision (as the SSC number is usually higher than the UCL number as it includes the people who live "just out of town") and I have to say that what happens in practice on Wikipedia is somewhat random, but my preference is to use SSC in this case, because I like to imagine that in that Great and Glorious Day when every suburb/locality has an article on Wikipedia, the sum of the population data for all of suburbs/localities will add up to the population of Australia. We had a lot of problems with the 2011 census as their boundaries for SSCs often incorporated multiple localities (so it was impossible to assign a population to a specific suburb/locality) but in 2016 they seem to have returned to having SSC boundaries much more closely aligned to the gazetted suburb/locality boundaries (hurray!). Kerry (talk) 10:48, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@The Drover's Wife::@Kerry Raymond:

The ABS regularly releases population estimates between official Censuses. Are these figures able to be used in the Infobox - Population or should the official last Census figures remain?

SVG conversions

Could you not use what ever tool you're using to create them? Since it puts a red border around everything and isn't 100% correct with its conversions from jpg/png. Bidgee (talk) 22:11, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Bidgee: I use Inkscape, which I has been told was an acceptable tool. Which tool is preferred?

Thank you for your work on Australian content!

Thanks for all the populating you are doing!

Kerry (talk) 11:23, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Kerry Raymond: Thanks for providing frequent positive feedback. It is refreshing when so many only chose to communicate to criticise!

Electorate updates

I see you've been updating electorate articles and thought I'd point out that commas aren't needed in the population figures as the infobox formats numbers automatically. That's if you use the field properly and don't add the year, which belongs in |electors_year=, which you called |electors_name= in some articles, causing the articles to be added to Category:Pages using infobox Australian Electorate with unknown parameters. I'm pointing this out because of this edit, which resulted in "Electors" being displayed as "55,476 (2017) (2015)" because the contents of |electors_year= always appears after |electors=. Regarding this edit, we agreed that "near" electorates shouldn't be used on large electorates, as they tend to vary in shape and size and the near electorates can get out of date very quickly and be a maintenance nightmare. This is not such a problem with smaller electorates, which is why the template documentation says "Do NOT use on large electorates" and why Category:Australian Electorate articles using near parameters was created. --AussieLegend (✉) 05:50, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Great work on those census updates!

Just one small comment though. You should not mark them as "minor" edits. A minor edit is something that does not change the information content of an article, say, fixing spelling/grammar or formatting. Anything which changes the information content of an article is generally not minor. Kerry (talk) 05:36, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

City of Newcastle logo

Just an FYI, you don't need to upload a completely new file when logos change. Just upload a new version over the existing one, update the FUR and tag the file with {{[[Template:{Orphaned non-free revisions|{Orphaned non-free revisions]]}}. That way the only changes you need to do are on the file page itself. When you upload a logo under a new filename the old one needs to be tagged with needing deletion under CSD F5 if it is no longer used. --AussieLegend (✉) 11:34, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Non free logo rationales

Hi. Thanks for the logos of local authorities etc. which you have been uploading. Just a small point - I've had to correct quite a number of your rationales recently, where you have put a URL or a link in the "Article = " parameter of the template, where it should just be the name of the article, in plain text, with no mark up. One example is File:Leicester City Council Logo.png, but there have been quite a few others. When you do that the files go into Category:Wikipedia non-free files with red backlink for checking, and someone needs to correct them to prevent them being accidentally deleted. No big deal, just thought I'd let you know, so that you can do it "right" in future.

Additionally, you might be interested in {{Non-free use rationale logo}} which enables you to use much briefer file description pages - for instance, File:York City Council.svg could be achieved with just:

== Summary ==
{{Non-free use rationale logo
| Description       = Official City of York Council Logo
| Source            = City of York Council
| Article           = City of York Council
| Use               = Infobox
}}
== Licensing ==
{{Non-free logo|image has rationale=yes}}

As you'll see if you examine that file page a lot of the fields where you've been pasting long portions of text are automatically provided by that template - which might save you some work... Keep up the good work. Thanks. -- Begoon 08:10, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Begoon: Thanks for sharing your knowledge and tips which are appreciated as will save me time in the future. It is certainly never my intention to create errors or work for others, so thanks for bringing it to my attention so I wont do it in the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenguytroy (talk • contribs) 09:46, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome. It really was no big deal, and correcting them was no problem at all, but I was certain you'd prefer to have it pointed out than not, as I do myself. Adding images to a whole group of articles as you do is a big task, and often under-appreciated, so thank you again. Cheers. -- Begoon 09:06, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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