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Thanks for writing

I am sorry please do not delete the article Kinita Kadakia Patel I will fix it and I will improve it, please give me chance to improve it, I have been editing from a long time please give me a chance. (Shubham Ghodke) 10:01, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Seraphimblade please help me with this, I can fix the page please give me a copy of the page, its a humble request, I have been editing for a long time. (Shubham Ghodke) 15:41, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Shubhamghodke3904, I am first curious about why you are so intent on writing this particular article. You had several photographs in the article over a long span of time and up quite close, including one which was used for the cover of this individual's book, which you listed as your own work, meaning you are the photographer. If you are being paid or compensated to do this, or are expected or asked to do so as a duty of employment, you would need to make the mandatory paid editing disclosures before we proceed at all. Seraphimblade Talk to me 16:45, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Seraphimblade No one is paying me for such things please don't misunderstand, I agree that I added more pictures this was my mistake, I am curious about my editing account I don't want any strikes on my page, I love creating articles on Wikipedia I like to write that's why I spend time here writing. (Shubham Ghodke) 06:25, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And about pictures, I personally got them I agree with this thing, but I make sure that I am not getting paid for anything please do not misunderstand. (Shubham Ghodke) 10:58, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Shubhamghodke3904, well, something doesn't add up there, but I'll take your word for it. Regardless, if one looks just at the lead of the article, it refers to her as "...India’s leading Sports Nutritionist [sic]". "India's leading" by what standard, according to whom? It goes on to say "She has established the Mumbai based best nutrition center...". Who said it's the "best", by what standard? Those are puff terms. It inappropriately uses a "get to know ya" tone throughout (as an example, she should be referred to as "Patel", not "Kinita"), more puff terms ("globally reputed", "internationally renowned", more uses of "leading", etc.), and ends with "The Athlete in You will help you build this new athletic lifestyle by guiding you to eat, think, look and most importantly perform like an athlete. There is an athlete in all of us, and it is time to bring that athlete out!". (An article must never address the reader or include a "call to action"). If you believe you can write a neutral article free of any type of promotional language, you may do so at Draft:Kinita Kadakia Patel and seek approval via articles for creation, but it will need to remain entirely free of those issues. (By the way, the above issues were not an exhaustive listing of the problems, only examples of them. The entire article carried on in that promotional, "talking up" tone.) Seraphimblade Talk to me 21:18, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Seraphimblade Thanks for understanding me this means a lot to me, so I will create the draft and let you know so please look at it tell me which things will work and which don't, and also you can edit it on my behalf if you wish to, so that I may create the best article if you help me. Thanks again. (Shubham Ghodke) 05:10, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nominated For Speedy Deletion (Awele Aina Make up artist)Saxfreak 11:48, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Good day. I noticed that you NOMINATED the article i created Awele Aina (Make up ARtist) for speedy deletion. I'd like to know which aspects of the article was ambiguous or promotional, as i did a lot of research to come up with this article. Would be great to hear from youSaxfreak 11:48, 12 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saxfreak01 (talkcontribs) Saxfreak 15:39, 12 March 2020 (UTC)--Saxfreak 15:39, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Saxfreak01, the entire thing was. The article uses unnecessary disambiguation (it should be at Awele Aina), and its tone has quite a bit of "talking up". Such as popularly known as (by whom, according to whom? That's weasel wording), celebrity make-up artist and skin care expert ("sourced" to a clear puff piece/interview), famous music video director ("famous" is a WP:PEACOCK term), The marriage generated some media buzz and controversies (what were those controversies and why?), but the couple has stayed above the storm in all of it (inappropriate informal/"get to know ya" tone.) Those are only examples; the whole thing is like that. Wikipedia articles must be strictly neutral in both tone and content, presenting only facts verified by reliable sources, not an editor's impressions of them. Seraphimblade Talk to me 21:05, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Seraphimblade. I Learnt a great deal from your explanation. I'll work on my drafts and get it sorted out. Regards--Saxfreak 12:21, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page access

Hi Seraphimblade. Last July you blocked the user Briar Interactive for promotional editing and username violations. They have returned and spammed on their talk page (Special:Diff/945211723). You might want to revoke talk page access - thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:32, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drm310, thanks for the heads up, and done. Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:57, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page deletion without notification

Hi, I have noticed that you deleted the reviewed article that I created, Felix Bast without marking it for deletion first. You have not given me a chance to explain, I find it very rude. The page had already been reviewed and is an informative one. I am sorry, but I fail to understand the reason for this drastic step, I could have modified it in case you want it to be improved. --Iflex (talk) 02:07, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Iflex, I don't know when you think it was "reviewed", but it was never placed through articles for creation (which it should be any time you have a conflict of interest, such as writing about yourself). The article was written like a CV, and used quite a bit of inappropriate, language, such as "Dr. Felix" and "Dr. Bast" (no "Dr." in an article, just "Bast"), a bunch of inappropriate and unreferenced "get to know ya" type stuff, and then a massive laundry list of mostly non-notable awards and stuff written. While writing about yourself is not forbidden, it is heavily discouraged. If you insist on doing so, please ensure to only do so via submitting a draft article through AfC, not placing it directly in mainspace. Seraphimblade Talk to me 02:26, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

---I am incorporating all these changes and submitting to articles for creation once again. I would be humbled if you let me know how can it be further improved.--Iflex (talk) 07:28, 18 March 2020 (UTC)--Iflex (talk) 07:28, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Happy First Edit Day!

Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society

Dear Seraphimblade,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Fifteen Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for fifteen years or more. ​

Best regards, Chris Troutman (talk) 18:54, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I hadn't even stopped to think it'd been that long, but I suppose it has. Definitely older, maybe even a bit wiser. Seraphimblade Talk to me 23:32, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks,

--David Tornheim (talk) 06:15, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

March 2020

I receive a message of your intention to block me from editing and I really want to know why.

The pages I try to contribute to doesn't have any promotional write ups or materials on them. If it had, you probably should have drawn my attention to it and I'll make necessary corrections but you chose to threaten to block me from editing, really?

I'll need you to point out the promotional phrases on the pages I created to enable me understand my lapses.

Thank you Thisissegun (talk) 20:38, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thisissegun, as you have written several promotional articles, please first clarify whether you are being paid or compensated to edit Wikipedia, including being asked or expected to do so as a duty of employment or internship. If so, you will need to make the required disclosures before we proceed. Seraphimblade Talk to me 21:11, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seraphimblade,

No. I'm not been paid to write or edit on Wikipedia and it never cease to bother me why you think I received compensations for my work because I don't.

I've read the Wikipedia rules and I understand that receiving payment is one thing editors shouldn't do.

I really love the encyclopedia and I want to contribute but I'm frustrated right now.

How can I show my inoncency, how? Thisissegun (talk) 21:24, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thisissegun, in the case of Alex Ajipe, the article is written in a CV style, "sourced" only to an online "profile", or earlier to other non-independent sources like LinkedIn. In order to be an appropriate subject for an article, there must be substantial quantities of reliable and independent reference material about a subject, and it needs to be an encyclopedia article, not a CV. For Ondo State Music Awards: Our findings shows that The OSMAs is the only indigenous music award in Nigeria (who is "our"?), You can simply relate with “OSMA” (No second person/"you"; never address the reader), rewards excellence in our fast rising artiste across the country (pure puff), and section header titles should be written in mixed case, not all caps. (Also, the use of "we" and "our" makes me suspect the article may have been partially copied and pasted from another source, which is not permitted). The rest of the article carries on like that. Wikipedia articles must be strictly neutral in both tone and content, and never promote anyone or anything, including just by "talking up" or use of marketese words. Seraphimblade Talk to me 21:37, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, Now I understand better.

In the case of Alex Ajipe, I was still working on the page when suddenly, I got the "speedily deletion" notification. Like I was just starting to add more contents, references and citations but I couldn't continue since it was already tagged to be deleted.

Ondo State Music Awards on the other hand was sourced from few website including the awards official website, the mistake I made was copying & pasting (Which is against the rules). An administrator left a message for me to address few lapses which I instantly worked on but before I could do all that necessary, I saw a notification that the page has to be "deleted speedily" meanwhile I'm already working on getting things done the right way.

I was really frustrated but I agree I made few mistakes but I deserve a chance to do things the right way. Thisissegun (talk) 21:51, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You have that chance; you haven't been blocked. However, articles created directly in mainspace will be expected to be ready for mainspace right away. You might instead consider creating articles in a userspace sandbox or a draft. You still can't have copyright violations or promotional material, but that will give you time to get things ready to go. Seraphimblade Talk to me 23:14, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, Thank you.

I'll go ahead and develop the article in sandbox.

I'll surely reach out to you to check the article if it's up to the Wikipedia standard before going live.

Thank you once again. Thisissegun (talk) 07:17, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Straight Talk Wireless Page Deletion

Hi Seraphimblade,

Thanks for taking the time to review Straight Talk Wireless. I'd like the chance to access the page to improve or use for future reference. If you wouldn't mind sharing any specifics on what within would have been considered too close to advertising, that would be appreciated. Happy to adjust as necessary.

Thanks again. FrankWS875 (talk) 21:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FrankWS875, thank you for making the required disclosures. In regards to the deleted article, the following are some examples of problems, though not an exhaustive list. First, the logo and summary information were placed on the left side of the article. That needs to go on the right, and in a standard infobox, with the logo at standard rather than oversized size and the other infobox fields being the standard ones. From there: America’s largest prepaid, no-contract wireless service provider No, we don't slice things up to describe them as "largest". If it's America's 15th largest provider (I'm not saying it is, but whatever it may be), it should be described as that, supported by reliable sources. Don't slice it to put in a puff term like "largest" in some "segmentation". If it's the tenth largest, it gets listed in the article as the tenth largest. family of brands. Marketese. Is the "family of brands" companies, products, franchisees, licensees? Be specific. The junk marketese term "brands" is not acceptable. Straight Talk Wireless offers a variety of no-contract single-line plans and one multi-line plan ranging from $30 to $90. Articles should not include pricing. including budget-friendly devices According to what reliable source? and the latest Android and Apple devices. According to what reliable source? The rest continues on the same way. Wikipedia articles are to educate the reader, never incentivize them. I suspect, quite honestly, that the subject actually is notable, but we would never permit something like what you wrote. Wikipedia articles must never promote anyone or anything, even by any form of "talking up" or marketese. Seraphimblade Talk to me 00:48, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did it again

Regarding your warning here. He's done it again. Brendan Luke Byrne. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:45, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]