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BBC 12-hour Editathon - large influx of new pages & drafts expected[edit]

New Page Reviewers are asked to be especially on the look out 08:00-20:00 UTC (that's local London time - check your USA and AUS times) on Thursday 8 December for new pages. The BBC together with Wikimedia UK is holding a large 12-hour editathon. Many new articles and drafts are expected. See BBC 100 Women 2016: How to join our edit-a-thon. Follow also on #100womenwiki, and please, don't bite the newbies :) (user:Kudpung for NPR. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:55, 7 December 2016 (UTC))

New Page Review - newsletter #2[edit]

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Wikipedia entry autobiography vs information on author provided by author[edit]

Thanks for your message regarding the page Nicholas Karlson. I am Nicholas Karlson and I am the author of ESDOT - Econometrics, Statistics, and Data Analysis -- Open Text. See for a link to a very brief introduction to ESDOT.

ESDOT is public domain (CC0) text and code I authored that will freely help people all the way from the high school level to the Ph.D. level. I have not created the ESDOT wikipedia page but I would like to do this. The Nicholas Karlson page is meant to provide information to ESDOT users about the author of ESDOT. I will gladly wait to post the Nicholas Karlson page after posting the ESDOT page if that is the appropriate procedure.

Kind regards,

Nicholas Karlson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicholas Karlson (talkcontribs) 21:34, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

@Nicholas Karlson: Thank you for your message. You are welcome to create an article for ESDOT, but I would recommend using Wikipedia's Articles for Creation process. That will allow you to create a draft article that can then be reviewed by other uninvolved editors. As long as you are transparent about your connection to the subject and have reviewed Wikipedia's guidelines about conflict of interest, then other editors will be more confident that you are contributing in good faith.
Please note that a topic must be considered notable to be included in Wikipedia. You will be expected to show that this topic has already received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject to establish its notability. You won't be able to cite your own unpublished personal knowledge, as this is considered original research and not accepted on Wikipedia.
If and when an article is created about it, you won't have any ownership or editorial control over it. What you post will be editable by anyone at any time, perhaps significantly over time. Article content is arrived at by consensus in accordance with Wikipedia policies.
I would advise you not to create an article about yourself, for reasons explained at Wikipedia is not about YOU and Wikipedia:Autobiography. It is nearly impossible to accurately judge your own notability and write about yourself objectively. If you are a notable person according to Wikipedia's notability criteria for people, then it's best to leave the writing up to someone who's better equipped to write with the required neutral point of view. --Drm310 (talk) 21:39, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
@Drm310: Thanks for your help and advice Drm310. I appreciate the upwards boost on the learning curve! Nicholas Karlson (talk) 18:29, 14 December 2016 (UTC)Nicholas Karlson

Deletion of Fusion Radio page.[edit]

I would like to draw your attention to the relevance of the article and field any concerns relating to its legitimacy as an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fusion Radio (talkcontribs) 06:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fusion Radio --Drm310 (talk) 13:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

changes to page[edit]

why did you undo my changes to the page Weethalle, NSW. I am a resident of this town and with respect, think i know a little more about what is going on in regards to local religion than you, some school kid sitting behind his computer half a world away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:31, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

@ If you bothered to look at the page history, you will see that I had no part in reverting your edits.
Be that as it may, the reversions were justified on the basis that they did not provide the required reliable source to verify what you'd added. Your own unpublished personal knowledge and experience (referred to on Wikipedia as original research), cannot be used.
Finally, do not act as if you own the page - Wikipedia articles are owned by no one. Good faith edits to any article can be made by any editor, regardless of their location, knowledge or experience. --Drm310 (talk) 13:11, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


Thank you, I appreciate it! I've actually been editing Wikipedia for a while now, but this is the first time I got around to making an account. Cattyboi (talk) 22:23, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Ah, well a belated welcome then! Cheers. --Drm310 (talk) 22:44, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Re: Iya Valley[edit]

I appreciate your concern that my additions to the page for the Iya Valley do not include a "source" but I can not cyber-tastically "cite" the 90 year old woman sitting next to me who has lived in this village her entire life on this page. Have you ever visited this place? I've lived here for over a dozen years. My "source" is my own eyes ears, nose, tongue, and hands. It is the stories of my neighbors. It is the verbal history which has no physical "source", for which I hope to establish with this wiki. Please come here and help cite a generation who's ways are quickly and quietly vanishing... or otherwise, stopping trying to prevent such documentation with your desire for citation and re-instate whatever content you obstructed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:40, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

@ Please read WP:NOR. Wikipedia requires that any material added to an article must verifiable by citing a reliable published source. Your own unpublished personal knowledge and experience cannot be cited as a source as is impossible for a reader to verify it. The essay Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth states that:

Any material added to Wikipedia must have been published previously by a reliable source. Editors may not add content solely because they believe it is true, nor delete content they believe to be untrue, unless they have verified beforehand with a reliable source.

To summarize: whether you know something to be true or untrue is irrelevant. If the facts have never been published by a reliable source, then they cannot exist on Wikipedia. --Drm310 (talk) 16:56, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
@Drm310: OK, citations required. Everything's got to be verified, right? But why didn't you erase the whole Iya Valley page then, being that there are no other citations on the page? As a matter of fact, much of what's on many wiki pages have no citations, so it looks like you have a lot of deleting to do. Better get to work! Onward wiki-soldier! Such a fine benefit to human knowledge you are!! (talk) 12:47, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Your point is flawed. The subject is almost certainly notable enough to be retained, per WP:GEOLAND. The article is not unsourced - poorly sourced, certainly, yet there are a couple of external link sources. However the way it's written now is dreadful, and it needs a massive cull, perhaps as far back as a stub.
A great deal of stuff exists on Wikipedia that should not. Some bad articles persist for a long time because no one has noticed or taken enough of an interest in them to check their quality. Volunteer editors can only do so much.
Human knowledge is better served by high-quality, sourced information from credible sources. The presence of unsourced or poorly sourced material is more damaging to Wikipedia's usefulness and credibility. Therefore it is better for it not to exist at all. I am sorry that you've taken the removal of your edits so personally. Perhaps you should try editing a different topic where you have less emotional investment. --Drm310 (talk) 15:46, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Since I wrote that last response, I have added a number of external links to articles from reliable sources. Rewriting the article with these as the basis will satisfy the requirement of content being determined by previously published information. --Drm310 (talk) 17:40, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Tag Maintenance[edit]

I posted proposed edits to the talk page for Tom Joyce to address the maintenance tag for NPOV that you added to the article in April. I have not received any response on the talk page to my proposed edits and would like to move forward with cleaning up the article so that the tag can be removed. Should you have any suggestions for further edits to bring this article to compliance please let me know. NewQi (talk) 21:45, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


hello mr Drm310, I was a humanist of the city of Cirebon, West Java, Indonesia 45 155.

I am not doing spam, but is being revised on all pages of Cirebon culture.

Sincerely, Mohamad Katavi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohamadkatavi (talkcontribs) 06:05, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

@Mohamadkatavi: I do not remember what was on your user page when I tagged it for deletion, but the reviewing administrator agreed that its content was of a promotional nature.
Please review Wikipedia's user page guidelines. There are some specific rules about what is allowed and what is not allowed. Your user page is intended for basic information about yourself and your Wikimedia-related activities. Although a lot of freedom is allowed in personalizing your user page, it is not a personal website, blog, or social media site, nor should it be used to promote yourself, or host a fake article, CV/resumé or lengthy autobiography. Thanks. --Drm310 (talk) 14:18, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

wikipedia and copyright[edit]

Hi, thanks for that information about my contributing to Wikipedia for Michel Olatuja. I didnt know that, and I thought that is a very good drafting. I never do to copy, sorry. I will think about that. Thanks. --Ailimes (talk) 19:49, 26 January 2017 (UTC)Ailimes

@Ailimes: You're welcome. Wikipedia can be a confusing place, with lots of rules that you might not know about until you accidentally break them. You might want to try out Wikipedia:Your first article as a starting point. That will guide you through step by step and hopefully you will avoid some of the more common mistakes made by new editors. Best of luck to you. --Drm310 (talk) 20:42, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.2[edit]

Hello Drm310,
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A HUGE backlog

We now have 371 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

Hitting 17,000 soon

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

Second set of eyes

Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.


This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and

  1. this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
  2. this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in a community ban.
  3. This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

Coordinator election[edit]

Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.

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(four tildes)**** User talk to talk :Drm310 (new section) — Preceding unsigned comment added by VUONG&TRUMP (talkcontribs) 16:29, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

@VUONG&TRUMP: I'm sorry, but I do not know what you are trying to say to me. --Drm310 (talk) 16:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review-Patrolling: Coordinator elections[edit]

Your last chance to nominate yourself or any New Page Reviewer, See Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Coordination. Elections begin Monday 20 February 23:59 UTC. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:17, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Drm310, I am trying to talk to Jimfbleak as he has deleted a page that I created last week, but his talk page isn't allowing me to leave a message. Perhaps you could help or forward this message, please? I created the University of Essex Knowledge Gateway page as a paid communications employee of the University of Essex and all the information on the page is factually correct and non-promotional. The Knowledge Gateway is now a physical location and an address, and 20+ companies are now based there. Please advise on how I can alter or edit the copy so it will be approved. Many thanks, Jo. I havwe also posted this on: Jodaviesuniessex (talk) 12:24, 20 February 2017 (UTC) Jodaviesuniessex (talk) 12:42, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.3[edit]

Hello Drm310,
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Voting for coordinators has now begun HERE and will continue through/to 23:59 UTC Monday 06 March. Please be sure to vote. Any registered, confirmed editor can vote. Nominations are now closed.

Still a MASSIVE backlog

We now have 371 New Page Reviewers but despite numerous appeals for help, the backlog has NOT been significantly reduced.
If you asked for the New Page Reviewer right, please consider investing a bit of time - every little helps preventing spam and trash entering the mainspace and Google when the 'NO_INDEX' tags expire.

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User:Intern at TCOC[edit]

Hey. I saw your warning message regarding this user's username. Originally, it was User:TimminsChamberofCommerce, and they changed it to what it is now. Since the rename was performed (see log entry), we can presume that this form of the username is acceptable.

I encountered a similar username a couple of years ago. I reported it, but it was deemed acceptable. I'm with you; generic usernames like that seem unacceptable, but I can see the other side of the argument too.

Anyway, I would recommend you retract your uw-username warning to User:Intern at TCOC is it's not necessary. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:37, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

@Hammersoft: Retracted, although I was loathed to do so. In terms of a position, there's barely a difference between "intern" and "secretary", which WP:ISU cites as an example of an unacceptable username. I don't agree with the others' interpretation of WP:ISU and we're sending mixed messages by allowing these. --Drm310 (talk) 21:02, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I don't disagree with you. I just see such name structures being routinely accepted, and in this case the person who changed the username allowed it to go through, so it already has a stamp of acceptance. Wikipedia, being the amorphous blob that it is, frequently disagrees with itself. --Hammersoft (talk) 21:04, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


User talk:Prof. Biswajeet Pradhan#Recreation and new account


Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:30, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: @DGG: I first suspected this might be this individual's colleague and a simple COI, but now I'm inclined to take it to SPI. Do you think there's enough behavioural evidence for it? --Drm310 (talk) 16:10, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
DGG has deleted it and say he'll talk to the user. I'd say no SPI. Evidence is a single edit posting the same text. Could be an observer who kept a copy, a sock, or a colleague. who knows? We seek the path of least resistance. In this case, the outcome we want is the text gone and no further resources spent. Let's let sleeping dogs lie and search "Biswajeet Pradhan" once in a while, for a while. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:28, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
I agree with Anne's approach to this . Though I think its very probably the same editor, there's no point spending our time investigating isolated events of this sort. As she indicates, if it recurs, that's another matter. DGG ( talk ) 04:10, 4 March 2017 (UTC)


Hi, Thanks for your comment related to the quasardb content. Indeed I work for this company, but I tried to create the most objective page with the relevant sources whenever required. All the sources used are public and cross reference-able to ensure its objectivity. I'm fairly new to Wikipedia as an editor so I tried my best to make this page in Wikipedia's rules respect. Please let me know if by doing so I failed and I will see how to amend it to make sure it is 100% in line with Wikipedia's objectives. Best, gilles Gilles-quasardb (talk) 07:59, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@Gilles-quasardb: Hello Gilles, and thanks for your message. Looking at your article, I think you've done a very good job at keeping it factual and neutral. What I would advise you to do now is:
  1. Make a formal disclosure of your employment on your user page, User:Gilles-quasardb. You can use the {{paid}} template to save you some typing.
  2. Avoid editing the article directly from this point onward. Instead, use the {{request edit}} template to alert other editors to changes that you want made.
  3. Look at Wikipedia's paid-contribution disclosure rules and plain and simple conflict of interest guide, if you haven't already done so. You've done a good job at following the rules so far, but it's good idea to review them fully.
Thank you again for your contributions. I hope you will continue to contribute to Wikipedia in the future. Take care. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:34, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Transylvania band[edit]

Good evening. Please restore the page. References: official site1.

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Thank you in advance!)--Елизавета Павлова (talk) 00:29, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

@Елизавета Павлова: I am not an administrator and I did not delete your page, nor do I have the power to restore it. It was deleted by User:Ritchie333 - you can make a request to him. However, before you do, please be aware of the following.
Wikipedia is selective about the topics it includes. The subject of an article must be considered notable to be considered worthy of inclusion. There are specific criteria for musicians and ensembles, so this group would need to satisfy them in order for an article about them to be accepted.
The only sources you have are the band's own website and Facebook page. Both can be considered valid primary sources, but because they are self-published they will not count toward establishing notability. Any band can claim that they are notable, but the true test is - did enough other writers with no connection think they were worthy enough to write about?
My suggestion is to create a new draft article. They are at less risk for deletion than articles created in the main space. It will give other, more experienced editors to review it and give you feedback before publication. Good luck. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 04:04, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Good evening. Thanks for the answer. --Елизавета Павлова (talk) 22:38, 21 March 2017 (UTC)