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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Paul Sarebresole. Closing as redirect right off the bat rather than merge because multiple editors have asserted there are no sources (and therefore nothing verifiable to merge). Content remains undeleted in the history should anyone wish to source and merge it. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:41, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
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Not enough sources exist to write an article of substance. Questionable notability. Vmavanti (talk) 20:19, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 20:28, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 15:13, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy Close. This is a song written by a notable composer and performed by a notable ensemble. If, as the nominator alleges, not enough sources exist to write an article of substance, the correct action would be a merger, as turning this to a redlink would not be desirable. AfD is the wrong venue for this concern. Chubbles (talk) 01:17, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to Paul Sarebresole since we lack enough sources for a seperate article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:04, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter if the person or the band is notable. What matters is the song. The song doesn't inherit notability. What matters more is having sources from which to write material about the song.Vmavanti (talk) 22:52, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
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- AfD is for deciding whether articles should be deleted or not - whether a bluelink should turn red. People use it as an omnibus cleanup facility, for mergers, redirects, and article improvement, but I take that as unfortunate scope creep. If you have a problem with an article that is not related to whether it should be turned into a redlink, consider WP:ATD. Chubbles (talk) 13:47, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- Using it as an "ominbus cleanup facility"? When? Where? What people are you talking about? And since when are you against red links? In the past you have argued with me many times about how Important it is to create them. Now you use it as a rhetorical strategy to avoid the dreaded red link that will be created. You don't say "delete". You say "whether a blue link should turn red" on the assumption that people recoil at red links and will therefore agree with you. It's a slick move but a desperate one. I doubt it will work. So far it hasn't. And since when are you against "scope creep"? You have argued with me in the past about all kinds of changes you would like to see to expand Wikipedia. Expansion is practically your creed. That's the problem with many "discussions" on Wikipedia: The inability to accept limits. I don't have any rhetorical strategies. I stick with honesty. I remain flabbergasted at how attached people can become to these articles and how emotional these discussions get when all we're talking about is deleting inert data on a computer screen. Why do people pop up to "save" and "rescue" articles. People are rescued. Not articles. You understand no one's being killed here, right? No one's being harmed. Except maybe the nominators, who are always attacked by the members of the Church of Infinite Expansiveness.Vmavanti (talk) 02:39, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- AfD is for deciding whether articles should be deleted or not - whether a bluelink should turn red. People use it as an omnibus cleanup facility, for mergers, redirects, and article improvement, but I take that as unfortunate scope creep. If you have a problem with an article that is not related to whether it should be turned into a redlink, consider WP:ATD. Chubbles (talk) 13:47, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect and merge to Paul Sarebresole. Searches of Google Books, the internet archive, Newspapers.com, Newspaper Archive, and Proquest brought nothing on the song. I added what I found on the composer to that article. It would be helpful if someone who searched for the song were redirected to the composer's article, and the image in this article could be used there as well, as it has none at present. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 01:45, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Paul Sarebresole: Barely found anything about the song. ASTIG😎 (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 10:09, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.