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Yuri Lowenthal in Murdered: Souls Suspect

If actually watching the credits isn't enough to prove to you that he is in the game I don't know what will. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur5ojca1Bfo @ 10:58. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James12183 (talk • contribs) 06:19, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

James12183, he's listed in additional voices along with hundred other voice actors. That's not a significant role to be mentioned in his filmography. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 06:29, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just because you don't see it as a significant role doesn't mean it should not be mentioned. Otherwise any mention of various characters and such would have to be taken off as well since that is usually put for non-significant roles. {{subst:uw-unsigned| James12183}}

James12183, please read Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga/Archive_70#When_are_additional_voices_eligible_for_inclusion_in_voice_actor_articles?_2. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:29, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well I guess Wikipedia will have to remain incomplete then. That will obviously disappoint people who go on here looking for information about whether someone was in something but I guess I can't go against policy no matter how nonsensical and irrational I find it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James12183 (talk • contribs) 16:43, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

James12183, there's an external link to IMDb at the bottom anyway if people want to find additional voices or know exactly which episodes he voiced in. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:51, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jay Munly's Wikipedia Page

Hi, I responded to your other notes on my own talk page for Jay Munly. I can copy/paste them here.

One more thing: I saw this note when going through the revision history today: "use musical artist instead of person"

I just wanted to let you know that when I started to revise the page in March, I started modeling it after both Jack White's page and Taylor Swift's. Jack White has a combined musical artist and person infobox, which looked like a good idea to me. Since he's a pretty popular/famous artist, I thought that'd be the right format to use.

I thank you for the rest of your edits and notes as well - it's been a big learning curve for me! - Xx rapunzel xx (talk) 01:09, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Xx rapunzel xx, that's fine, it can go to infobox person later when they become more of a celeb than a singer/musician. Keep finding those external news sources like Billboard, Rolling Stone, newspapers outside of Denver's immediate area. Those will help keep his stuff notable. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:18, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good evening, xx rapunzel xx here. I'm looking over all these edits that you made... wow. It's a lot for me to take in! I have a few questions:

  • I came across the DOB on social media and the year on one of those background check sites. This is an example where the date is more widely known than the year, but would citing social media be acceptable?
  • The obituaries I have are on sites like "tributes.com" - doesn't sound like a news source to me. As per your note, I should delete those and the info with it, right? If so, I have to remove a lot of things, then.
  • How come sites like "Discogs" or "Genius.com" for lyrics aren't good sources? Should I use sources like bandcamp or the band's own website? The thing is that lyrics aren't easy to come by since they aren't usually published.
  • Not a question: The 'controversial lyrics' section doesn't have to be reinstated. I guess it was a way for me, as a fan, to address problematic things while also trying to protect the artist. It was kind of a 'CYA' thing for the artist and for me too. It doesn't need to be there. There really hasn't been much outrage except for one site which mentions it but isn't calling for a full-on boycott. I'm assuming that the other part of that section, now renamed 'Public Image' is mostly okay except for the 'peacock prose'.
  • Not a question: Under 'Other Ventures': I have no idea what the plays are called. Children's stories: that's the only source I know that mentions that. Copper Nickel #5: I got that info from munlymunly.com, which is only a fansite apparently, although no one knows who that fan is. The only reason I know the title of the story is because I found a post on Tumblr that said so. The official University of CO site has an archive that doesn't go back that far, and Amazon does not have a list of contributors or a table of contents to view.
  • Under 'Personal life': should I delete the text under the warning box?

When I first came across Munly's page, there wasn't much information there and I thought that was due to neglect... I now see that it probably was due to WP's strict guidelines. TBH, I'm at a standstill and I'm not sure whether I should start drafting related band pages. - Xx rapunzel xx (talk) 00:12, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Xx rapunzel xx, thanks for commenting. Sorry some of the cuts were rather severe, but I'm trying to make sure the trivial tidbits are cleared out. It would be good if there was more detail on his albums and singles, as well as national tours and reviews. If most of his notoriety came from SCAC then that section could be supported with those sources.
Social media from Munly himself would be okay as WP:TWITTER but if he only confirms month and day, then you will need an external news article to confirm the birth year. Public search records (court, DMV, property, marriage, etc.) are not allowed.
For obituaries, you can cite the actual newspaper if it was published in one of those.
Discogs is a user-generated database. If you are wanting to cite pictures of albums and singles, then you can cite the album itself or album cover or liner notes.
Genius shouldn't be used. If another news article cites lyrics, use that instead. Yes, some of his lyrics might get the Parental Content warning sticker, but unless it's been discussed by a separate critic in an external news review, then it doesn't need to be listed. Bandcamp is self-published material but again, why need to list out his lyrics like that? I don't see the relevance.
You don't need to protect the artist, in fact, it's better that you don't for WP:COI purposes. See WP:PROUD. If they're notable enough to have a page, they are subject to have not-so-favorable news brought up, provided it shows up in reliable news sources.
As for plays and children's books, I would only list them if they are recognized by external news sources. He could have a number of projects going, such as YouTube videos.
Personal life. I kept it to his immediate family, live-in partner, and religious affiliation, but you can update/cut where appropriate.
As for drafting related band pages, just keep in mind the WP:NMUSIC criteria and if they meet that, then they have a good hance of going through. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:44, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't realize that Ext. Links go under Refs - I think they'd go unnoticed since "refs" signal that I've reached the end of the article and I don't read anymore. Xx rapunzel xx (talk) 20:30, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New: Good Morning! Last week, you tagged one of my edits as 'peacock prose'. Do I delete all these names? How would I write it from a more neutral POV? - Xx rapunzel xx (talk) 13:11, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Xx rapunzel xx, that paragraph just contains a bunch of name drops. It needs to be rewritten to describe who and from where it's making the comparisons to the authors and other writers. More detail would be good. In the Jennifer Hale article there's just a single reference from a writer comparing her to Meryl Streep. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:54, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How is the post I made any worse than this accepted one?

Shredgod21 (talk) 23:48, 3 May 2020 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Allen_Van_Wert <- you rejected the one for him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Linstruth <-- this was approved but contains less information and work history stuff.[reply]

Shredgod21, see WP:OTHERSTUFF. If you can find the person who accepted Lori Linstruth's article, you can ask him or her to review this one. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:40, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft Ustad Ashique Ali Khan Indian Musician

Please check https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ustad_Ashique_Ali_Khan, you declined on 2 May 2020 now i edit it. Check Amaan.ali30 (talk) 04:53, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Amaan.ali30, the article Draft:Ustad_Ashique_Ali_Khan is still too promotional with its wording and portrays him in an overly positive light. It also needs more external news sources. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:08, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your rejection to Articles for creation: Joanie Loves Chachi (Band)

Hi There,

Thanks for taking the time to review my first Wiki article! However I do not understand your reason for swiftly rejecting the article. You mention that there is not enough independent notability.

According to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music) link, Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria, and from what i understand, Joanie Loves Chachi qualifies the following:

1. Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself: The Chilliwack Progress article and the Claudia Wyler Blogs are two of these sources, are they not? There was once an AnnaNova.com feature (UK) but I cannot find that should I try and link that too?

2. Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart. At the moment, their current record on the North American College Charts, and it even debuted in the top ten at several stations. I did not include that in the article, will that help the notability? I left this out so the article felt more neutral.

3. Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition. Although it is arguable that the Fraser Valley Music Award they won is not a notable enough award, it is notable at least as a music competition, and it is first place is it not?

3. Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network. Their first records garnered them the licensing spots on the Alienated series from the Space Channel. How does this not qualify?

Thanks a bunch for your time, looking forward to your response! Deanfreakinyoung (talk) 15:47, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deanfreakinyoung, 1) those are non-notable blogs. Please find some more notable newspapers and magazines such as Billboard, Entertainment Weekly, maybe CBC. 2) As for music charts, they need to chart on Billboard or something major. College Charts isn't notable. 3) Fraser Valley Music Award is not a notable award. We're talking Grammy. 4) Space Channel isn't a music television network, it's a regular television fiction channel. This might bring popularity later but please find more mainstream Canadian news sources. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:05, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Deanfreakinyoung, please also connect your references to the article instead of just leaving them at the bottom of the page.AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:31, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

World Federation of ADHD

Dear AngusWOOF, thanks for your valuable feedback to my draft of the article for the World Federation of ADHD. I've checked your comments and updated the draft accordingly by adding more external and internal sources. I hope the re-submission finds your approval. Best, VaJaMe — Preceding unsigned comment added by VaJaMe (talk • contribs) 07:27, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

VaJaMe, can you use references instead of embedded links? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:46, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AngusWOOF, thanks for the inspiration, I changed several embedded links into references and hope this is more satisfying now. Anything else I could improve? We use The Movement Disorder Society as our role model and I cannot see so many differences to our association. --VaJaMe (talk) 13:17, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

King Arthur, the historical king and his dynasty

Based on your advice, I withdraw my article titled "King Arthur, the historical king and his dynasty" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cunedda (talk • contribs) 14:37, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cunedda, you can blank out the draft if you don't want to use it anymore. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 04:23, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Wall Of Death

We edit-conflicted, and the AFC script doesn't recognize edit-conflicts, and we wound up creating two copies. I will see if we can get them both to direct to the track listing. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:02, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, no worries. Thanks for fixing that. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:45, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Albmi & Draft:Nosaxa

I find this and this quite puzzling and counterproductive. Checking the validity of each redirect takes less than 20 seconds (unless the connection is not good) and adding the redirect even a shorter time. I agree, it probably takes a few seconds longer than those editions I link to, but is doing that kind of thing worth it? The redirect is still not there, will probably remain the same for a long time... unnecessarly, it scares away occasional contributors and contributes to creating more (again unnecessary) noise with comments like this, possible replies etc. Just for some kind of strange red tape. That kind of thing is not helpful in general, for users or the project in general pero bueno, vosotr@s mism@s, colegas. Regards. --37.35.185.168 (talk) 02:24, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

37.35.185.168, those are redirects. Just request them at the redirect instructions listed. Do not use draft pages to create it. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 04:21, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I know. You are not telling me anything which isn't stated in the links I provided. The issue I mention seems not to be an issue at all? Anyway, a few more details in case they can help you (and others) get yourself/-selves in other peoples' shoes: a few days ago, I tried to add some redirects, something I used to do in few seconds time ago. I could add the info in existing pages like disambiguation ones, not problem with that, but I found I couldn't create a new page as an IP. A wall for vandals, I guess. Fair enough. After searching and reading a lot of not always very helpful text for long minutes (15 or probably longer) I found the draft option. If my memory serves me well somewhere was mentioned that redirects could be done that way but I might be wrong with that (a lot of blahblahing usually distracts rather than helps and I am unable to find the draft option again). I created a couple of draft redirects... wrongly, it turns out. OK, my fault but also frustrating. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels frustrated by this strange, thick mesh. Now I know how to do it properly (thank you) but the whole process probably shoos away a lot of people. It's quite easy to feel one loses their time here under such procedures and then they brandish further red tape before your nose once again. I repeat: that kind of thing is not helpful in general, for users or the project. I wonder how many useful redirects are sleeping the sleep of the just while the noise continues increasing and how many users decided contributing here is not worth the trouble. Regards. --37.35.185.168 (talk) 14:30, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
37.35.185.168, how long did it take to process the redirect request when it was submitted to that form? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:12, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not much. That's not the point, though. You are still failing to address the issue I mention. It's like pointing to the moon and people looking at the finger, so we'd better move forward to our own businesses. Regards. --37.35.185.168 (talk) 23:15, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
37.35.185.168, actually that is the point. If the process is broken or too slow then you need to bring that up with the admins here so they can fix it. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:20, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
37.35.185.168, did you submit it as a redirect using the Redirect Wizard at WP:WIZ/R? That's seen from the WP:AFC page. Is there another spot that makes it clearer where to go? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:37, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Kola Oyeneyin

Dear AngusWOOF, Kindly review this draft article as previously declined by you. I have now removed promotional content and also added references from reliable sources. I will like to know what you think and should incase, there are areas I still need to work on, kindly point out. I appreciate your contributionKojomo (talk) 20:20, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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