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AIC draft

Hi Sulfurboy. I've read your comments on my talk page and I believe I've actioned your request properly. Could you possibly confirm? Swright-aic (talk) 15:43, 15 May March 2020 (AEST)


Dear SulfurBoy,

Thank you so much for promptly reviewing my Afc: Lilian Ajayi-Ore; and most importantly, for your professional feedback why the afc was declined due to 'peacock' terms. I have reworked the article and re-posted it for another review. Keep up the good job! Best Regards, Ozonyiawiki (talk) 10:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC) Ozonyiawiki[reply]

Straight Talk Wireless Draft Rejection

Hi Sulfurboy,

Apologies to be having this conversation again, but I submitted an article for review, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Straight_Talk_Wireless, and it was rejected again for reading like an advertisement. If you're willing to discuss, I'd love to know how we can improve the page. I'm sure you noticed that I made significant updates to the page in an effort make it more neutral and less of an incentive to readers, removing details on how to purchase and activate service, removing price details and removing claims that TracFone is the largest prepaid service provider. I also added sources to corroborate the information included. As you know, I've been asked to create this page as part of my job, so I just want to see that page go live however possible. I don't expect this page to sneak by reading like an advertisement, and our client understands that as well. I genuinely thought the page adhered to guidelines much better than previous attempts. So, I'd appreciate any guidance on how to improve the page.

Take care, Frank FrankWS875 (talk) 14:20, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FrankWS875, You didn't remove details about how to purchase the service. It's literally mentioned in the second sentence of the article. The article has been CSD'd twice now and rejected which means it will not be considered further at this time. As already advised in the stern warning on your talk page, continuing to attempt to use Wikipedia for advertising will likely lead to you being outright banned from the site. Please stop. I would advise reporting back to your employer that you all need to do a better job of understanding our policies first before attempting to participate in black hat SEO/paid editing. Sulfurboy (talk) 19:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sulfurboy, I understand, and I appreciate the time you took to review the page again. Hopefully, I can reestablish good faith. 16:05, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Literature

  • Walter Methlagl: Der Traum des Bauern – Franz Michael Felder. Bregenz, 1984.
  • Wilhelm Meusburger: Die "Käsgrafen" - am Beispiel der Gebrüder Moosbrugger (Schnepfau, Thüringen, Mailand), 2001.
  • Dirk Strohmann: Gallus Moosbrugger - ein manchesterliberaler Ausbeuter? Bregenzerwald-Heft Jg. 31, 2012, S. 34 - 38.
  • Dieter Seibert: Bregenzerwald- und Lechquellengebirge [alpin]: ein Führer für Täler, Hütten und Berge. Bergverlag Rother, 2008.


Article on “Andreas Brugger“:

Literature

  • Hubert Hosch: Andreas Brugger 1737 - 1812. Maler von Langenargen. Ein Beitrag zur Kunstgeschichte des Bodenseegebietes und seiner Umgebung zwischen Barock und Romantik.

Jan Thorbecke Verlag, Sigmaringen, 1987.

  • Gottlieb Merkle: Andreas Brugger. Der Meister und sein Werk. Kressbronner Jahrbuch. Kressbronn, 1986, S. 86-94.
  • Paul Beck: Schwäbische Biographien. 27. Andreas Brugger, Maler aus Kreßbronn. In: Diöcesanarchiv von Schwaben. 18. Jg. 1900, S. 166 f.

Wikipub (talk) 22:02, 26 May 2020 (UTC) 26 May 2020[reply]

Literatur

  • Hubert Hosch: Andreas Brugger 1737 - 1812. Maler von Langenargen. Ein Beitrag zur Kunstgeschichte des Bodenseegebietes und seiner Umgebung zwischen Barock und Romantik.

Jan Thorbecke Verlag, Sigmaringen, 1987.

  • Gottlieb Merkle: Andreas Brugger. Der Meister und sein Werk. Kressbronner Jahrbuch. Kressbronn, 1986, S. 86-94.
  • Paul Beck: Schwäbische Biographien. 27. Andreas Brugger, Maler aus Kreßbronn. In: Diöcesanarchiv von Schwaben. 18. Jg. 1900, S. 166 f.

Regarding Yuva Unstoppable

NO

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Hello sulfurboy I am a little new to Wikipedia your two tags for and at this page are now resolved by some users and changed it please help me the remove it from the page.
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Animal Products in Pharmaceuticals, Updated page

Dear Sulfurboy,

In regards to the animal products in pharmaceuticals page, [1] I have made all of the changes you suggested and want to move forward with the article. Specifically, I added insulin and premarin to the active ingredients section, added a definition of pharmaceuticals to the first paragraph, added three citations about the relationship between animal products in pharmaceuticals to various religious, ethical, and cultural, groups, and made other edits inline with your suggestions. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do to get this article approved. This is a notable topic that is part of public and scientific discourse and should be part of Wikipedia as well. I am interested in hearing your thoughts on next steps to move this article forward.

Regards,

Skubydoo (talk) 01:01, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Skubydoo, I've approved the article. There's a small chance of blowback, but I think you've done enough to keep it neutral and scientifically backed. Cheers. Sulfurboy (talk) 02:27, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Sempert

Please just resubmit if you believe the issues in the article have been corrected.

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Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).== Michael Sempert ==

Hi Sulfurboy, Thanks for your edits and feedback to "Michael Sempert."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michael_Sempert

I had meant to completely remove the discogs, wiki and imdb on the last pass, but somehow my changes didn't stick. My apologies for that. At this point all the citations are either magazines (including music blogs), newspapers or online tracking databases (Tunefind, Whatsong, Songkick) which I believe would fall under "e-commerce." Thanks in advance for your help with the page.

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Don't forget to move articles with unnecessary disambiguators

Hey, I came across Al-Najm al-Thaqib (missile) and saw that you had reviewed it. Since we don't have any other articles by this title, you should have moved it to Al-Najm al-Thaqib as part of your review. I've gone ahead and done it so there's no need for further action on your part. signed, Rosguill talk 18:47, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rosguill, Thanks for catching it, I missed it. Sulfurboy (talk) 02:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft Article: Talitha Espiritu

Hi sulfurboy, I just created a draft page for talitha espiritu. Her name appears on many articles discussing Ferdinand Marcos's martial law in the Philippines. I think the gathered sources are reliable. Is there any other way to prove her notability? I am writing a series on Filipino academics for wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicparra (talk • contribs) 20:56, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 16:29:57, 28 May 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Vanitaapplebum


Hi. I am reaching out to ask about the Bashiri Asad draft that was declined. I would like clarification on the resources I provided for this article. Soul Tracks, Afropunk.com, Nuvo, Post and Courier, Indianapolis Recorder and WFYI are all independent media sources with reporters on staff. Please explain further. I would like to figure out how to fix it. Vanitaapplebum (talk) 16:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vanitaapplebum (talk) 16:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vanitaapplebum, If you want to use external links to establish notability then they need to be properly incorporated as references. All media sources have "reporters on staff", that doesn't demonstrate notability. Soul Tracks is basically a blog site, it's nice to use a reference, but does very little to establish notability. Sulfurboy (talk) 08:51, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rejected Draft:British Nuclear Medicine Society: Reason WP:SIGCOV

Hello, Three pints

1. I think this button on your talk page "Click here to start a new topic" is having some technical issue. I tried to post a message couple of times; however, it only got published once in the middle of the post. I think it got deleted by yourself as it did not follow the rules listed on this page.

2. Thanks for rejecting the Draft:British Nuclear Medicine Society  Courtesy link: Draft:British Nuclear Medicine Society. I have updated the page and would be thankful if you can have a casual look and suggest if it addresses the WP:SIGCOV issue, or if needs more work?

3. This article on EANM has only 10 references and is successfully published on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Association_of_Nuclear_Medicine. My article on BNMS is very similar, with over 40 references.

Thanks Earthianyogi (talk) 10:48, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Earthianyogi, Looks as if this has been moved to mainspace by a fellow editor. Let me know if you have further questions. Sulfurboy (talk) 08:49, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmed Emara

I hope you are doing well. I need some help for Draft:Ahmed Emara which you had shifted to a draft. Could you help me correct the errors in it.

Kindly waiting for your reply.

Thank YouTerminatorwil (talk) 16:47, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Terminatorwil, Please see WP:BUILDER. Fixing your article is your responsibility. If you have questions about specific policies then I am happy to help with that. Sulfurboy (talk) 08:48, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

NZ music history rejection

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I can't for the life of me understand your logic in rejecting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Universal_Music_New_Zealand Notability: it's the largest record company in New Zealand by a large margin and its catalogue includes much of the nation's musical legacy, which is the subject of a substantial reissue program. It really matters and seems to clearly fit the notability provisions of Wikipedia per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies). It is also directly responsible for the biggest selling female act in the world in 2015, Lorde.

This history and the importance of this company is supported by a multitude of independent links that include Billboard magazine, NZ company records, and multiple specific mentions in http://www.AudioCulture.co.nz links. AudioCulture is the definitive history of New Zealand music, funded by the NZ Govt, and the work on that site come from the nation's leading music historians, all acting independently. It doesn't get any more authoritative and yet you state "Zero standalone notability established" which is simply untrue. Perhaps it's intentional but this does feel like at best a cursory rejection without any real oversight. Perhaps talk to some of the NZ Music taskforce on Wiki who will explain why you are wrong. In NZ music terms it truly does not get any more "notable". Snig27 (talk) 08:35, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Snig27, The billboard article does not show WP:SIGCOV of the company and only mentions them in passing. NZ holds records on all incorporated companies, that doesn't make them notable. The audioculture articles talk about HMV and EMI. A company absorbing notable companies does not make the absorbing company notable. Notability cannot be inherited. Any time there is a spinoff article of a company's subsidiary, substantial independent WP:SIGCOV must be shown to pass WP:NCORP. And like I said, zero sigcov is shown. I would recommend reaching out at Talk:Universal Music Group to gain consensus for a spinoff article and seek the help of fellow editors to find better sources. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 08:47, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've reviewed WP:SIGCOV and WP:NCORP and this seems to clearly fit both notability and sigcover per those links. Talk:Universal Music Group are not the right people to talk with as they cover, as you say, subsidiaries and such. This is about a company in a small country that has inherited the vast bulk of the nation's musical legacy and is actively - as in now - preserving and reissuing this catalogue at some cost to the company and using this to create a sense of legacy for NZ's musicians and future generations. It's hard to overstate how important that this is to New Zealanders culturally.

The source (no it wasn't just EMI and HMV pages) is both published and authoritative - it doesn't get any more authoritative and frankly, dismissing this is incredibly culturally insulting for NZ. They show how this catalogue came together and allowed the local branch of the multi-national to undertake this process. Once again, please talk the NZ music taskforce. The UMG is not the right place at all. Thank you. Snig27 (talk) 09:23, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Snig27, Not once is UMG mentioned in the audio culture sources. I get that you think it's notable. I haven't even said that it isn't notable. All I've said is the sources do not demonstrate notability. Instead of working to find better sources, you've instead twice low key accused me of prejudice. I don't have the time or patience to put up with that kind of drama, nor do other editors on wikipedia. Take it elsewhere. Sulfurboy (talk) 11:13, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Request on 09:03:22, 31 May 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Littlepenguin100


Hello, thanks for the review and your comment. He has played at team listed on WP:FPL. Boston River in Uruguay belonged to Uruguayan Segunda División, as well as Khon Kaen F.C. in Thailand belonged to Thai League 1. Thanks.


Littlepenguin100 (talk) 09:03, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Littlepenguin100, Which sources show credibly that he's played for either team. If one of them is in a foreign language let me know so I can translate it. Sulfurboy (talk) 11:15, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Sulfurboy (talk) 07:31, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sulfurboy, this source

https://www.transfermarkt.com/club-atletico-boston-river/transfers/verein/18074/saison_id/2008

shows credibly that he played for Boston River. Thanks.

Littlepenguin100 (talk)

Review Manoj Tiger

I don't respond to request to review specific articles. If you have a specific policy based question, I am happy to help with that.

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Recently I have create a article named Manoj Tiger, I request to you please review this article. Thank You Pk41946 (talk) 09:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Back Market2

I have deeply changed Draft:Back Market and put it in Draft:Back Market/2, to avoid a mess between which was the original text and which one is the deeply modified. Can you see it when you can, please?. BoldLuis (talk) 11:35, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BoldLuis, Please don't create multiple instances of the same article. This can be viewed as disruptive editing. Sulfurboy (talk) 01:58, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It was not my intention, but to avoid disruptive editing, deleting a lot of text from the original article. If it is OK, I can put the second version instead of the first one. I used the precaution principle. BoldLuis (talk) 02:10, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
BoldLuis, Unfortunately, both instances have been rejected by a fellow editor. As such, they will not be considered further at this time. Please do not continue creating new instances of it. Sulfurboy (talk) 02:17, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have deleted all commercial "advertising" in the original draft. So, it is a completely new version. 02:20, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Upneet Lalli

Hello SulfurBoy, I have read the reasons for the decline of my article on Upneet Lalli. Link to the article is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Upneet_Lalli I agree that the article with links to things the subject has written does not demonstrate notability but other than her published columns from link 5 through 24, the remaining links from 1 through 4 and 28 though 29 and link 31 demonstrate notability of the subject and these are reliable secondary sources. I am a bit new to wiki so if you could help me a bit, it would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks VS 14:45, 31 May 2020 (UTC)SoodVaishaliVS 14:45, 31 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SoodVaishali (talk • contribs)

Question about my article

Hey Sulfurboy, thank you for moving my article to Draft:Flighthouse. It has been a while since I've gone through the Articles for Creation process so I appreciate you guiding me through it. I have a question - does the draft look ok to you? I did my best to draft it up but if you have any notes, that would be much appreciated for me to improve my editing skills. Thank you in advance and hope you are staying safe. Grimothy29 (talk) 00:34, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Grimothy29, I haven't reviewed your article. I just moved it to the correct place. Please note that reviews can take up to five weeks. Sulfurboy (talk) 01:57, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jean Margain

Thanks for your work. Among others you moved the draft Jean Margain by User:Jairon Levid Abimael Caál Orozco to the main space. The article, like so many other drafts by that user, is very problematic, to say the least. In short: The draft should not have been moved to the main space. I have cleaned up the most irrititating mistakes and pseudo-references, yet it is still not a useful contribution to wikipedia and it is said that a person like Margain is in fact dishonoured by such a stub. Have a nice day, --Qumranhöhle (talk) 08:22, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Qumranhöhle, You seem to have a mistaken understanding about AfC. We do not hold back articles for cleanup concerns, particularly when a subject clearly passes an SSG or GNG. Sulfurboy (talk) 08:40, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Probably different language versions may have a different understanding of quality and what should be part of wikipedia and what not. If you think that drafts with pseudo-references that come close to fake references should be part of wikipedia, then we may have a different understanding of wikipedia as well. Have a nice day, --Qumranhöhle (talk) 09:06, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Articles for Creation barnstar
For dedicated and tireless contribution at WP:AFC  ~ Amkgp ✉ 17:52, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Re: Mike Greenhaus

Thank you for taking the time to review my bio of Journalist Mike Greenhaus, Editor-in-Chief of Relix Magazine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mike_Greenhaus) I appreciate your feedback You commented that my submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage. However, I provided three (and have since added a fourth) references on the subject from third party independent outlets on the subject I am writing about that were approved as qualifying by another Wikipedia Editor (1292simon) last week. I appreciate your feedback on my article Caryplace7 (talk) 19:15, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Caryplace7, The comments by Chris in the latest review fully encapsulate my ongoing concerns. Sulfurboy (talk) 00:15, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you once again for taking a look at my biography of Journalist Mike Greenhaus, Editor-in-Chief of Relix Magazine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mike_Greenhaus) This is my first bio, though I have added references and edit over 100 other articles, so I am still learning how to do this properly. Chris' comments suggested that a majority of the references I cited were by the subject I was writing about when in fact NONE of the links are by him, nor from the magazine he edits (expect the masthead as proof of his current position) The four articles I cited as best references had all been cleared as OK by another editor and are focused specifically on the subject of my bio. In addition, the other articles cite him as an expert reference which according to my research is the type of articles that should be included as proof of notability. I understood I have perhaps too many references; I was trying to balance a mix of articles focused solely on Mr. Greenhaus with citations on his work from larger references. Please let me know how I can improve. Thank you so much Caryplace7 (talk) 01:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Explosive Removal and Destruction Service (EOD) (Belgium)|

Hi Sulfurboy,

I am still writing the Page, and I am having difficulty with the citations, Also I have another Page waiting in draft that I submitted "JAGER'S TE PAARD (ISTAR) BATTALION also about the Belgium Armed Forces do you have any idea when it will be in Wikipeadia.

Kind Regards,

Please review WP:RS and WP:GNGSulfurboy (talk) 00:42, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Sulfurboy,

Other submission waht you said was reviewed and declined that is not an Article. So can you review my submission? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sachi1307 (talk • contribs) 06:05, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rikkeisoft

Hi, I was wondering why you considered my page overly promotional.

I made very sure to look at other sites in other countries on this site (Russia, India, Bulgaria, Etc) in order to get a good feel for how the article like this should be written.

As discussed on User talk:Oshwah, I'm not connected with the company. I also made very certain to make everything as detailed as possible through discussion with Yngvadottir when citing things. Is there something else that you don't like?

Request on 15:15:11, 2 June 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Rnagfn


Hey! I hope you are doing well. I have written the article on an Engineering stream that was taught as an M.Tech course in IIT(ISM), Dhanbad in India. I believe the article will add value to Wikipedia. I have used all the credible sources that I thought is useful for the topic. Can you please guide me more? Thanks & Regards!


Rnagfn (talk) 15:15, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rnagfn, Educational programs such as this are almost never notable. If you want to include a bit about it on the school's page that would probably be more appropriate. I don't really have any suggestions as I feel there's virtually no chance of establishing notability to warrant a standalone article. Sulfurboy (talk) 17:11, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okhee Lee submission - footnotes

Hi Sulfurboy, thank you for your review of the article about Okhee Lee, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Okhee_Lee I reviewed your suggestions, reworked the footnotes and published the changes. Since then citation bot paid a visit. I leave it up to you to decide where it stands at this points. All the best, Mel

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