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Purely defensive?

I just watched the P-47 Thunderbolt episode of History Channel's "Dogfights" series, where they describe a fairly offensive mode to employ the Lufbery circle.

A Thunderbolt returning from a ground attack missions was caught by 20 German Bf 109. After a deep dive, the P47 pilot tried to climb for the cloud cover to get away, which the vastly superior German force attempted to prevent by forming two counterrotating Lufberys next to each other right below the clouds. "If the P47 tries to run in any direction", the commentary explains, "they can easily dive and shoot him down."

The relevant parts of the episode may be accessed on Youtube under

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omO5VXOBZ80&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG7SK53uVOQ&feature=related

But this is not a "Lufbery" circle - the aircraft are not circling to cover each other's tails against fighter attack - but to remain in roughly the same position, and to be ready to pounce in any direction. The tendency for ANY turning manoeuver to be called a "Lufbery" is obviously very confusing. Incidentally I have made major changes in the article - comments welcome of course! --Soundofmusicals (talk) 00:38, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Can someone include a picture of this? 216.51.189.93 (talk) 20:25, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]