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You have no wikis in which you meet the requirements for UTRS. Your account has been removed and you will be required to reregister once you meet the requirements. If you are blocked on any wiki that UTRS uses, please resolve that before registering agian also. -- DQB (owner / report) 19:45, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I just clicked that login button for fun, I saw on the Wikipedia talk that non admins could log in and was curious if I could since I'm extended confirmed now. Looks like I can't. I wasn't expecting it to work anyway so it was unsurprising. Leijurv (talk) 19:50, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maths banner

The maths rating template hasn't been upgraded in a long itme, and it doesn't know how to handle redirects. Putting the maths banner template on them, despite the big red warning label, is the only way to get them into the correct maintenance category. I don't like it either. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 20:16, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All right, I guess. My monkey brain just saw the red text and thought "bad" lol Leijurv (talk) 20:17, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I guess I did screw up, because that one's actually not a redirect; there were hundreds of other number redirects I was blasting through, and I guess I assumed that was one, too. Sorry for the confusion! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 20:19, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Mz7 (talk) 18:11, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

July 2020

Information icon Hello, I'm Leijurv. An edit that you recently made seemed to be a test and has been removed. If you want to practice editing, please use the sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks!Template:Z191 Leijurv (talk) 19:05, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your points about SLS cost on the talk page

Hey, just to let you know, I've got some new info I'd like to bring to that conversation that I think you might find pertinent. However, I think it'd be best to wait for the ANI and Arbcom proceedings to finish first, considering the combative behavior going on right now. I hope you can understand. – Jadebenn (talk · contribs · subpages) 19:48, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jadebenn: Ok. I don't know what an IBAN would mean for the dispute on the article... would it mean you couldn't weigh in if Moamem started a RfC or vice versa? I wouldn't hold your breath on arbcom by the way, I emailed them to get unblocked in July 2018 and I only got a reply in late October 2018. Leijurv (talk) 19:57, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think participating in an RfC would be an issue as long as I avoided interacting with or mentioning the other user, but I'll have to read up on the policy to check. – Jadebenn (talk · contribs · subpages) 20:28, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jack of all trades change

Sorry if this is not the correct format, first time I am doing this and trying to follow the guidelines. I removed the quoted part that I did because looking at the source I saw it was just a personal blog. Looking it up I could find no concrete evidence of this add-on being an actual part of the quote. Many people have added it, but the phrase that dates back to at least 1732 goes as follows "A jack of all trades is of no trade." This is according to Martin Manser, The Facts on File Dictionary of Proverbs (2002) where he pulled the quote from Thomas Fuller, Gnomologia: Adagies and Proverbs; Wise Sentences and Witty Sayings, Ancient and Modern, Foreign and British (1732). The last line seems is really new, and completely changes the meaning of the proverb. Instead of the jack of all trades being essentially undesirable to it now being preferred. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.86.244.21 (talk) 20:00, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're right that the source doesn't appear to be reliable. In the future you could say that in the edit summary so that it's clearer. I'll self revert then :) Leijurv (talk) 20:05, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Richard

Here is the reference, a clip from Season 5; he is literally called Richard. "'Rick and Morty' posts a scene from upcoming season 5 online". EW.com. Retrieved 2020-07-25. 51.171.113.150 (talk) 20:56, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding a source, I'll accept the edit. But I wouldn't be surprised if someone else reverts it, because this sort of this will generally need consensus on the talk page. Leijurv (talk) 20:58, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Can't you see a CT-Link? I don't see any restrictions here on that page while I'm not subscribed. However NY-link you provided just repeats told there and have same date. Even pagenames are equal and 'ct' probably means 'Chicago tribune', so then CT is initial source.
There is a link to ebay there, but it appears to be dead? Yep, but archived one is still online.
About registration: I know such cons but I still searching your and mine previous IP's pages by direct URLs. And, as you see I prefer to teach anything through examples
In pursuit of the correctness of the information displayed, Wikipedia is drowning in bureaucracy, because ones who add content have become much less than ones who are trying to control it, and they choose quite rude way to do it - simply canceling hours-long edits of those who are looking for relevant information and sources.
And no one controls the activities of these controllers, because no Wikipedia rule prohibits them to "simply undo" edits instead of revising them and bringing them to the appropriate form. And no one discusses the quality of the undo edits while attempting to understand whether it was necessary to undo the edit or whether it would be enough just to change some of the details in it.
Other words, there are much more “teachers” who are trying to roughly teach other editors “how to do it” than those who are interested in filling this resource with relevant information.
No, I do not want to be part of a project in which the "war of edits" and "opponent" is not a pronunciation mistake, but, alas, a harsh reality.
Over the past month, I made edits to only 2 articles of the project, but in the story with you, you explained what was wrong, and I corrected it accordingly (however sources still were complexed to become RS). In the Jumanji story - no one is trying to change anything in my edit, they are only going to cancel everything, although I initially spent at least 8 hours searching for the relevant sources, including archived ones. And why should I register? To "enjoy suffering"? ;) No thanks )
I'd rather just forget about filling this project with anything, because it does not make sense - this is not a resource with "collective mind" filling it, but simply a dictatorship with a huge number of "special services" in the form of such careless controllers who are trying to "guide" simple editors "on the true path" not by examples, but by humiliation ...
Here, no one understands that the provided Chicago Tribune news itself does not contain the final sale price and that my question was exactly about using the ebay resource exactly for confirmation of the fact of exact lot sale was successful, so then can't be a RS of confirmation item was really sold and its final price ($60800, both evented day later news was published) itself, and not "information from the description published on ebay" (that is not 'user-generated' but automated), everyone just echoes "the information from the ebay page description cannot be used in the form of a RS" not even reading a topic where said "Does ebay... can be reliable source of fact something was sold...?".
Therefore, it is completely incomprehensible to me - it is in Wikipedia that all the "controlling editors" who speak out there are so stupid not even trying to understand a RS problem here exists and I asking about, or is it my "skis do not go".
There's situations where no clear information exists itself at some 'news' but 'true is out here' in COMMON pieces (part of overall news) of some news and sources exists that can (imho) be considered as RS because of repeatable both in news and other sources.
Modern news are quite brief to be contented enough with full event information (example - is Jumanji game book selling at ebay) so what to do about such event filling in Wikipedia? Not post? Even if sources complex (news one with others news is linking to) approves the fact itself?
I think Wikipedia lost it flexibility fearing bad news will be published there (came up with huge amount of unrelated to each other rules) however still having articles with unapproved information that just 'nobody cares' and nobody reads to examine because of leak of info (just to raise Wikipedia articles number when no alternative article view exists, even it's initially unapproved).
Wait how do I know it's still you??? :) By writing style and context ) And sure, by first part of IP (it's almost unchanged). With all aggregated, for sure )
And... They just deleted in full my Jumanji change. Again. Fill something more? Register? $) No way.
I even know what they will tell me (to confirm their undos) if I will continue: "CT article is @Redeye (Things to do) section and links to facebook that is user-generated blog so can't be RS any way" however there's no any info at news page itself about that's 'blog' or 'opinion' or 'newspaper did not checked that' which means that have to be true and checked by newspaper editors (about it's correctiveness) before publishing... And such justification of 'other editors' (who just cancelling my changes again and again) greatness will happens (I assume) indefinitely - instead of filling something to the resource they will just cancel everything again and again just 'because they can'.
85.238.102.245 (talk) 16:41, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Response to your edit.

Hi Leijurv, I added that particular content to Paoli Dam's wiki page as it is one of her films. This particular film was not included in the list and can be verified from IMDb entry [1] or film details from other sources [2,3,4]. I would request you to reinstate the content, otherwise a legitimate filmography entry would be missing.

[1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10574498/ [2] https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/shantilal-o-projapoti-rohoshyo-movie-review-pritam-d-guptas-insipid-film-suffers-from-clunky-writing-7231771.html [3] https://www.filmcompanion.in/features/bengali-features/the-actress-and-the-reporter-paoli-dam-and-ritwick-chakraborty-talk-shantilal-o-projapoti-rohoshyo/ [4] https://www.moviebuff.com/shantilal-o-projapoti-rohoshyo

Thanks, AmiArnab (talk) 03:01, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@AmiArnab: Thanks for finding some sources! But, you don't need to demonstrate it to me. Unless you put the sources in your edit itself, someone reading your edit or the page won't know if they exist or not. We need to include them in the page itself, because of WP:V. By the WP:BLP policy, we have to have sources for just about everything we say about living people. All the other films in that list have a <ref>, or there is a reference elsewhere in the article. You can of course redo the edit (you don't need to ask me for permission), but I suggest that you cite those sources, otherwise it might be reverted again by someone else. See WP:CITE for how to do it. I would probably only cite the later three, and not the first one (IMDB), because IMDB is not considered reliable (see WP:CITEIMDB for why). Leijurv (talk) 03:11, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Leijurv: Thanks for you reply and suggestions. I understand the issue. I will add the references (latter three) as you have suggested.
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