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Hello, Thanks for your good EDITING! You are a valuable editor! Thanks! 2015 1 June (1:57 UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:57, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Your Cedar Point revert[edit]

Hi GoneIn60, I just noticed that you had reverted my change in the Cedar Point article. The reason I did the change at all, was because I found and added a picture of the Cedar Point dance pavilion to the article Dance hall/Dance pavilion. It's a postcard from the early 20th century and it boasts that Cedar Point has "the largest dance floor on Lake Eire". The postcard also shows that it was a pavilion and not a hall (i.e. it has no walls, just a roof). In an attempt to find out the size claim, I eventually found that fan site. Yes, fan sites may not always be reliable, but as all the other facts on that fan site page tally with the Wiki article about Cedar Point, one may assume that the size of the dance floor is correct as well, as it obviously was something very impressive. Best regards, Thomas Blomberg (talk) 00:59, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

California's Great America[edit]

nothing id "disruptive" by making the tables sortable, up-to-date and easier to use for joe blow.

back off your high horse — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xcoaster1 (talkcontribs) 18:34, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

@Xcoaster1: You are removing links, prose, and adding random terms in what appear to be nonsensical acronyms, as shown in this diff. Also, you made over 50 edits in a row ramming through a lot of changes in a short amount of time. Since you have already been reverted once for doing this and ignored the message on your talk page, I suggest you start a discussion on the article's talk page before attempting to repeat these edits. It can be seen as disruptive and form of vandalism. --GoneIn60 (talk) 18:42, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Unnecessary Deletion[edit]

I don't understand why the other two incidents for the ride, Poltergeist get to be listed but mine doesn't...What do you want me to do, call Six Flags and get a note from 15 years ago?? Because the park didn't want it spread, they chose not to report it due to the ride being newly released and the fact I wasn't injured.

For years I've been upset that my incident was not recognized when the idiots could have cost me my life at the age of NINE! So to delete what you did is ridiculous.

Who are you to delete people's content?

Wow. Neveralone7 (talk) 18:48, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

@Neveralone7: First of all, please don't take it personally. Multiple editors have removed the content on the same basis. I suggest you take a close look at some of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, which is what we are basing the removal on. The Welcome page is a good place to start. In this specific situation, the policies concerning verifiability and identifying reliable sources can be found at WP:V and WP:RS. Per WP:RS, for example, "self-published media—whether books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, personal pages on social networking sites, Internet forum postings, or tweets—are largely not acceptable." The exception to that rule is if the author of the self-published work is "an established expert whose work in the relevant field has been published by reliable third-party publications". If you can show that your work merits an exception, then you should begin a discussion on the article's talk page to gain consensus before trying to include this information. Hope that helps. --GoneIn60 (talk) 19:32, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Roller coaster rankings[edit]

Now that The Smiler is officially SBNO, would that not just asterisk it in List of roller coaster rankings instead of removing it? I put it back and grayed it out, but I haven't changed the color of the new #1 ride (the four way tie for the various Colossus clones). Feel free to undo or tweak it, and thanks for all your help and contributions during this incident. --McDoobAU93 14:09, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

@McDoobAU93: Sorry, just posted to your talk page. You can look at "ring racer" in one of the other charts to see how SBNO is typically treated. It still needs to be in the list but should be greyed out and stripped of its ranking as signified by the *. Do you think we should handle these differently? I was only going by the way the page's creator handled it. Thanks. --GoneIn60 (talk) 14:12, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Cincinnati Reds[edit]

I reverted this edit of yours. The deletion by the IP was proper. No Cincinnati Red was National League MVP in 1971, alone there being a player named Justin Hundley at the time. I'm a baseball aficionado, but the fact that the entry was a redlink should be a clue. FYI all people who have made at least appearance in a Major League Baseball game, get an article....William 21:34, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

@WilliamJE: No problem. I didn't look that deep into it. Just saw the removal of content without an edit summary. Thanks for the heads up. --GoneIn60 (talk) 21:10, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

The Scenic Railway at Dreamland[edit]

Yes, The Scenic railway is under referbishment, as it is being repaired, but will not open for Dreamland's reopening on the 19th of June 2015. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:28, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

@ Your edit was reverted, because you didn't provide a reliable source. This doesn't mean it isn't true, nor does it mean a source doesn't exist. It just means you should provide one when adding updates to articles. If you need help with citations, see the referencing for beginners tutorial, and feel free to ask if you still have questions. Thank you. --GoneIn60 (talk) 17:41, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Dear GoneIn60, I have added comments to the talk page of the Scenic Railway regarding the closing date and the distinction between Grade II and Grade II* listing. Please could you review my comments and reinstate my edits based on this. --Peet13 (talk) 09:53, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Undue weight?[edit]

Unfortunately, this backwards compatibility has several nuances that cannot adequately be summarized without losing key information. I've been trying to to trim it down further, though. Also, I thought undue weight was more about the representation of viewpoints, not how much coverage we give to something that, undoubtedly, no one saw coming and will probably be considered today's highlight unless Sony does something similarly groundbreaking. Backwards compatibility has been a point of contention this generation... ViperSnake151  Talk  20:58, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

@ViperSnake151: In addition to balancing opposing viewpoints, WP:UNDUE also applies to the amount of coverage that any particular aspect of a topic has in an article. For example, of all the published material covering the Xbox One, the portion that is focused on backward compatibility should get adequate coverage in the article, but that coverage shouldn't exceed a reasonable amount. A reasonable amount can be hard to gauge. If say 5% of all published material covers backward compatibility, then only 5% of the article's length should be reserved for that aspect. Of course, it's not an exact science since there's no way to determine the exact ratio. However, using 20% of an article on something that has had a small footprint in sources would easily stand out. After further review here, the backward compatibility section appears to only be taking up roughly 4.5% of the article, so it's not a major concern at this point. I'll let the recent changes sink in, but at some point, I may make a few minor modifications to help shorten it a bit. Thanks. --GoneIn60 (talk) 14:09, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Terminator Genisys[edit]

Hi, its NeoBatfreak. I just wonder, you seems to know lot about Terminator franchise. Do you think that the movie will get a sequel despite it is underperformed?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 20:53, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

@NeoBatfreak: Sorry, I'm not an expert by any means when it comes to the Terminator franchise, but I have seen all 5 movies. From what I've read, at least one sequel has already been planned with another possible sequel after that. However, it all depends on how well it performs in the international market. Domestically, it doesn't look like it will break $100 million at the box office. If it fails internationally too, then they could cancel any planned sequels. That would be a shame, but it's the nature of the business! --GoneIn60 (talk) 21:25, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Also, have you checked the soundtrack section? Is it okay for me to put the film's single (Fighting Shadows) with the score's template, since they are both consider official soundtrack of the film?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 21:29, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
I don't mess with the soundtrack sections much, but looking it over I'd say it looks pretty good. Nice work. If another editor with more experience with that template sees an issue, I'm sure they'll make the necessary corrections. --GoneIn60 (talk) 03:35, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
You already download the soundtrack yourself, both the score and the single?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 05:42, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
I have not. --GoneIn60 (talk) 11:45, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Can you copy edit the soundtrack section too?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 09:00, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
I'll look it over when I have a chance, but like I said, I'm not all that familiar with them. Give me some time to look at other good and featured articles, so I have an idea of what's generally expected of them. --GoneIn60 (talk) 09:12, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @NeoBatfreak: Ok, so here's the deal. First, I made some minor changes to the prose and collapsed the primary track listing. I looked at the Dredd article as a reference. So I believe it's in better shape now. However, we need to keep this in mind: per MOS:FILM#Soundtrack, "Track listings for film scores are generally discouraged since the score is usually composed by one person and the score's tracks are generic descriptions of scenes from the film. Noteworthy tracks from the film score can be identified and discussed in prose."
With that in mind, the track listing you've added probably won't hold up over time as the article moves toward good and featured status. Notable tracks from the soundtrack should be singled out in prose with references that cover them in detail. Unless the music becomes critically acclaimed, this section will likely need to remain relatively short. And finally, I'm not sure about having a separate track listing for just the bonus track. I think at the very least, you should probably merge that into one. Hope that helps. --GoneIn60 (talk) 10:46, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Saw - The Ride[edit]

Thorpe Park has confirmed that Saw - The Ride has opened back up. Inversion Team (talk) 23:03, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

@Inversion Team: That's fantastic! Now where's the source? I've searched myself and have been unable to locate one. --GoneIn60 (talk) 23:14, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
Thorpe Park Twitter. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inversion Team (talkcontribs) 23:32, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
@Inversion Team: Right, so here's Thorpe Park Twitter. The announcement is nowhere to be found. Mind providing a link? --GoneIn60 (talk) 02:20, 10 July 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inversion Team (talkcontribs) 02:40, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello- Obviously there was a confusion on my edit to the Disney's Hollywood Studios template. My revisions were due to the fact that The Magic of Disney Animation has officially closed. The second revision was due to the fact that themed restaurants were being included in a list of attractions, when restaurants, no matter how well themed and entertaining, are officially labeled as dining experiences by Disney.

I appreciate your concern, and thank you for clarifying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:04, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Storm Chaser[edit]

Just got done re-doing the article for Twisted Twins and moved to Storm Chaser (roller coaster). Any of your talents in improving the article are welcome! --McDoobAU93 16:21, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@McDoobAU93: Thank you, sir! I haven't had time to work on that one, so I appreciate you taking care of the initial cleanup. I will hopefully find time later today or tomorrow. --GoneIn60 (talk) 16:55, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Lake Compounce[edit]

Hello, I recently noticed that you have removed a large amount of info from the Lake Compounce page. I understand why you've gotten rid of most of what you have like height restrictions, which are unnecessary in an encyclopedia, and information about how a ride works, which only should be on that ride's own page. I am, however, confused on why the history of most rides, and explanations of the more unique attractions, were removed from the ride descriptions. One of the reasons you give in your edit explanation is that the material is unsourced. While that may be true, I'd like to point out that the majority of the article is unsourced anyway so just removing most of the info in the ride descriptions, but leaving in a bunch of other things, seems odd. To be fair, the second reason you give is that the information is "irrelevant" and I understand that those two reasons combined would be enough to justify deletion. The main thing that I'm confused about though is how that information is irrelevant. Like I said before, I understand why general information about rides that are at multiple parks is unnecessary, but my confusion comes from the removal of certain info of unique rides and info that is somehow unique to Lake Compounce that is of a replicated ride (like the theme or interesting history of it). I personally feel that that information should not be removed; however, I am aware that you do know more about Wikipedia's guidelines than me. I guess what I'd like to ask is if there is a rule or guideline that shows how this information is considered irrelevant. If not, then I'd still like to understand why you consider this irrelevant. For reference I'm talking about the edit you made on June 3rd at 20:04. Sorry to make such a fuss about it! It's just that I've always found that information interesting and was sad to see it gone. (talk) 19:57, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your concern and questions. I assume you are referring to these edits: diff1, diff2, and diff3? Yes, the primary reason is the absence of a reliable source, but another reason is that the article's topic is the amusement park itself. Its history, rides, awards, and other notable content must all be given equal weight in the article per WP:DUE. It seemed to me that this was unbalanced, with way too much prominence given to the rides themselves. If the content was sourced, I would have likely initiated a discussion on the article's talk page first to discuss trimming some of the details and/or possibly moving the rides and their descriptions to a separate article, similar to how a few other amusement park articles have handled the issue. Without a source, however, there wasn't much I could convincingly save, and even many of the details that remain are still technically in question.
As for your concern about selective removal, you have a good point. It does seem unfair to remove or clean up only part of the article. Truthfully, I just haven't had the time to go back and take a closer look at the other sections. I was planning on doing some research to see what I could find on the park in reliable sources, and then go back to the article and keep what I can. I hate to remove potentially correct information myself, but it's the nature of the beast in Wikipedia's policies. Hope this helps, and if you have time to locate some sources, please feel free to cite them in the article or at least list them on the article's talk page for other editors to see. Someone will eventually find the time to include them. Just keep in mind that when it comes to amusement parks, there are a lot of fan websites that are sometimes hard to distinguish from what Wikipedia would call a reliable source. If you need help, just drop me a line. Thanks again! --GoneIn60 (talk) 20:18, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Alton Towers[edit]

Bring back The Blade from the page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:02, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

@ No idea what you're referring to. --GoneIn60 (talk) 06:15, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Cedar Point's Dive Coaster[edit]

I have created a page for Cedar Point's new Dive Coaster. I don't have much written, I just wanted to get some old articles and information in there so they are not lost. Who knows when they'll announce this thing but when they do, there's an article started that could be built upon. I'm letting you know incase I'm not around when it is announced or if you wanted to work on it some. I'll also ping @Dom497: to this.-- Astros4477 (Talk)

@Astros4477: Thanks for the heads up and for the preliminary work. I'll be sure to keep an eye out for any announcements. --GoneIn60 (talk) 14:40, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

The Smiler[edit]

Hey, this link: talks about the smiler being tested and claims videos have surfaced showing it. I have been undoing quiet a few edits on the page which were concerning the status and editors were changing it to 'testing' and I and a few others were changing it back to SBNO. I am although starting to think that maybe we should change it to testing, after all Alton Towers and the HSE are testing it and there had been pictures of new components being added (or so I hear). Or does 'Testing' not apply in this case? Sl3nderman3006 (talk) 22:18, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

@Sl3nderman3006: Thanks for the help keeping the page in order. I haven't been on much the past couple weeks. "Testing" is usually such a short period of time that we should probably look at removing it from the list of available statuses. In addition to being short, the testing phase of the ride still technically means it's SBNO, so changing the status to "testing" is unnecessarily more specific than it needs to be. That's something I'll eventually address at the WikiProject to see what other editors think. Even for those in favor of using that status, I don't think it applies here yet. The article states that the running of the ride is part of the investigation. That's not testing in the sense that preparations are being made to reopen the ride. Instead, they are simply running the ride to gather information. So I think it would be misleading at this time to change it from SBNO. --GoneIn60 (talk) 10:09, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

OK then:) Sl3nderman3006 (talk) 20:34, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Terminator genisys[edit]

GoneIn60, this is Extravaganza1, I would just like to know what you consider disruptive about the edit I made on Terminator Genisys. How is it incompetent?! "Terminator Genisys received negative reviews from critics, who deemed the story as "messy" and "convoluted", and criticized the performances, as well as the casting of Jai Courtney as Kyle Reese, though Schwarzenegger's return to the franchise was welcomed." does NOT in ANY WAY destroy the entire page. Am I the only one who thinks that "Terminator Genisys was not well-received by critics, who found the story and performances to be unsatisfactory, though Schwarzenegger's return to the franchise was praised" to sound extremely clunky? I just wanted to add something that sounded less horrendously stupid. That's all. So please, tell me what's wrong with my edit, SPECIFICALLY. Or how it's any different than the previous one? And again, tell me specifically, because the disruptive editing page told me nothing about the type of edit I made that's supposedly bad.

Extravaganza1 (talk) 11:08, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

@Extravaganza1: It is disruptive in the sense that previous edit summary comments described the reason why this was changed back to its original form, then just a day or two later, you undid that change without discussing it first or paying attention to the edit summary. If you head over to the article's talk page, you'll find a recent section where this was discussed. We had consensus established to use that phrasing. It might be a little clunky, sure, but please continue the discussion and provide a better alternative there before ramming it through on the page.
I can tell you that classifying the majority of reviews as "negative" always causes a big stir, and if you look at some of the other discussions on the talk page, you'll see exactly why: other editors strongly believe that a majority of the reviews were actually mixed and not negative. Saying it's "not well-received" was a compromise, because it includes both mixed and negative in this form. --GoneIn60 (talk) 18:36, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
So then could I say that "Terminator Genisys received mixed to negative reviews, with critics welcoming Arnold Schwarzenegger's return to the franchise, but deeming the story as "messy" and "convoluted" and criticized the performances and the casting of Jai Courtney as Kyle Reese."? It would still be a compromise for those who believe that the film received mixed reviews.
Extravaganza1 (talk), --September 19, 2015 (UTC)
@Extravaganza1: Actually, that probably wouldn't work either. A lot of editors have issues with using "mixed to negative" or "mixed to positive", and grammatically speaking, that is a clunky phrase as well. Saying it wasn't well received includes both mixed and negative reviews, and the shorter phrasing flows better. I strongly advise you contribute any thoughts/suggestions to the discussion on the article talk page. You'll need consensus at this point if you want your change to stick, and convincing me won't be enough. --GoneIn60 (talk) 18:31, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Cannibal inversions[edit]

According to Lagoon Park, Cannibal has 3 inversions. They're the ones who created Cannibal so their credible. RCDB is a FANSITE so they don't count. Plus on the vehicles, a POV shows a car marked 5 so there's more than just a single car. I changed the inversion back to 3 so please don't change it. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:52, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

@ First of all, RCDB is not a fansite. It's a well-established source in the industry that consists of a team of researchers who verify park claims. Often, parks define things differently than the industry, so specifications and records can be misleading when reading them on the park's website. In addition to RCDB's claim of 4 inversions, you can read the publication by American Coaster Enthusiasts (ACE) here, which clearly states that riders experience an Immelmann, a dive Immelmann loop, and then a double heartline roll that the parks calls the Lagoon roll. That's 4 inversions.
Also you should be aware of Wikipedia's policy WP:PSTS, which explains the difference between primary, secondary, and tertiary sources, and clarifies why secondary sources are preferred. The park's website is a primary source, and while acceptable in the absence of reliable, secondary sources, it would not be considered more reliable than RCDB or ACE. When they disagree, we go with the secondary source. You will need to discuss this on the article's talk page to gain consensus if you still disagree and would like to change it. Please don't edit war. See WP:BOLD and WP:BRD for help understanding why your edit may be reverted and what the etiquette is on Wikipedia for handling these situations. --GoneIn60 (talk) 14:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Force Awakens[edit]

I reverted your edit which re included the text on Daniel Fleetwood story in Force Awakens article. I was the original editor who removed it and then asked the editor who originally included it to take its inclusion to the talk page. The discussion is still on going and I have contributed to that discussion. I think there may be some confusion because my last edit to the article was to remove an irrelevant text which promoted the BBC 'Children in Need' program's makers intention to do a Force Awakens parody piece. Robynthehode (talk) 06:41, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

@Robynthehode: Thanks for letting me know, but it wasn't necessary. I had already reverted my edit once I realized my mistake that there was an open RfC. I was only looking at the earlier post on the talk page originally. --GoneIn60 (talk) 13:03, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Waste your time interfering with what other people are doing.[edit]

Would you please explain why you deleted my note on the Talk page at:


while I was working on it. Sorry if I am slow but I took the time to look some things up so that I would have them correct.

Do you enjoy wasting your time causing other people difficulties and causing them to have to waste their time? --Tyrerj (talk) 22:51, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

@Tyrerj: Don't take it personally. At the time, it was an empty section and nothing more. Your edit appeared to be accidental, so I reverted it. In the future, you should use the "Show preview" button instead of "Save page" to make sure everything looks good before submitting. --GoneIn60 (talk) 01:23, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Mutual interests[edit]

Hi, after our little chit-chat regarding the Talk:Star Wars: The Force Awakens#Genre classification, I stumbled across your Wikipage and noticed that we share the exact same interests in articles. Our main topics on Wikipedia are videogames and roller coasters, aswell as films. That's a really cool coincidence! --Jonipoon (talk) 18:44, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Always nice to run into a fellow roller coaster fan! Cheers! --GoneIn60 (talk) 03:39, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

The Smiler incident subsection[edit]

OK, I have down-sized the text in sandbox quiet a bit and taken out victim names, reasons for crash (it was already mentioned elsewhere on the page) and various other chaff. I also added a reference section. Personally in my opinion, I think its good to go now and it will fit in with the page nicely. Oh by the way, I think that the text regarding this specific incident above the incidents table can be removed as this text (if it's OK) will effectively work as a replacement as well. HiddenHerobrine (talk) 19:46, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

@HiddenHerobrine: I haven't had a chance to look it over closely yet. I should have a chance in the next day hopefully. --GoneIn60 (talk) 10:02, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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Star Wars lead[edit]

Hi. User Joj has filed an edit warring complaint against me here, and I have mentioned your name. You may wish to comment. μηδείς (talk) 16:23, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Nighthawk Roller Coaster[edit]

In regards to your message concerning my edits to the Nighthawk page, the following is a link to Nighthawk's page which lists both it's length (843 meters) and the fact it is listed as a "prototype":

The following is a link to the entry for all the Vekoma "Flying Dutchman" roller coasters which lists the length for each. Nighthawk is listed as 843 meters, while the other two are 1018 meters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:32, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

@ Thanks for pointing out where you got your information. On Wikipedia, it is important to provide the references when adding this information, and you can read more about how to do so at WP:CITE. If you'd like to readd the information that I removed, feel free as long as you cite them. Also, keep in mind that since this is an article on an American roller coaster, measurements should remain in the US customary format. So use feet instead of meters. And finally, the source you provided does not support the other claims you were making:
...and as such several of the ride and design elements and safety features are different from the other two coasters, which are considered "production" models. Many coaster enthusiasts consider Nighthawk to be a rougher ride than its two sister coasters, as Vekoma took time to modify the design and smooth out the rough spots before building the other two.
You will need sources for that content as well if you're planning to reinstate that part. --GoneIn60 (talk) 18:20, 4 December 2015 (UTC)