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Hermann Leiningen

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I need your help with this one. The subject has been profiled by the Toronto Star[1] and the National Post,[2] prominent newspapers in Canada, yet I cannot help feeling that this does not amount to significant coverage in reliable sources. The highlight of both articles is that he is a humble banker with prominent ancestors, which does not strike me as the sort of thing that needs to be reported in an encyclopedia. Surtsicna (talk) 13:05, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Surtsicna (talk) 13:05, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finance-related deletion discussions. Surtsicna (talk) 13:05, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Surtsicna (talk) 13:05, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep In 2010, Leiningen accepted a posthumous tribute from Chabad-Lubavitch of Markham on behalf of his grandfather, Boris III of Bulgaria. The award was featured in a profile for Global's 16×9 (here, and here). That's notable, IMHO. Thosbsamsgom (talk) 15:08, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep almost all of the nobles cataloged by the many wikis are notable because of their "prominent ancestors". Wanderer0 (talk) 05:09, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete getting coverage for accepting an award on behalf of someone else is not a sign of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: Recent edits to the article, under the guise of WP:V or WP:OR, read as attempts to justify the deletion request… Wanderer0 (talk) 19:59, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • The profile from 16×9 (here), and the web short from National Post (here), include explanations of Leiningen's full title and style, and his potential position in the line of succession, and his relation to so-called prominent ancestors. These items are also explained briefly in Eilers's biographical dictionaries on the Victorian descendants.
    • Reitwiesner's dated chart covers the line of succession, which was based on earlier work of historians A. C. Addington and Daniel A. Willis. The same chart was the basis for the pastel succession charts shown in the 16x9 profile. It appeared in Parade magazine in the San Antonio market late-2012, other magazines elsewhere.
    • Also, German nobiliary titles and styles are inherited by legitimate male-line descendants. Therefore, Leiningen is a Prince from Leiningen (Prinz zu Leiningen), not the Prince of Leiningen (Fürst zu Leiningen). Leiningen explain's this—somewhat—in the web short from the Post. Therefore, his daughters would be Princesses of Leiningen (Prinzessin zu Leiningen).
    • Following conventions since 1919, Leiningen's name would be recorded as Leiningen, Hermann Friedrich Fernando Roland Prinz zu if he naturalized as a German citizen, if he hasn't already.
  • That he is in the line of succession is sourced; that he follows a Princess Juliana of Leiningen is not. Prinz Hermann Friedrich Fernando Roland zu Leiningen was presented as his full name, which is dubious and not verified. We should not introduce him or his family as prince or princesses because those are neither their legal titles nor what they normally call themselves. Articles have better chances of being kept if original research is removed. Surtsicna (talk) 20:38, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ "Baby Prince Christened". Windsor Star. Vol. 90, no. 80. CP. 1963-06-04. p. A11.
  2. ^ Hickey, Trisha (2003-07-19). "Club turns 100: Empire: Prince Andrew, the Duke of York, attends Centennial Luncheon". National Post (Toronto ed.). p. TO.7.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  3. ^ Miskin, Maayana (2010-04-15). "Posthumous Award for King Boris". Arutz Sheva. Retrieved 2020-08-08.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  4. ^ "RBC Wealth Management hires new MD of family office and institutional investments". World Market Intelligence News. 2014-05-02 – via ABI/INFORM.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  5. ^ "Hope – A Key Message at Cayman Captive Forum". Business Wire. 2016-12-13. Retrieved 2020-08-08.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  6. ^ "The Family Office Landscape - A Forever Moving Target at Sir Anthony Ritossa's 9th Global Family Office Investment Summit Under the High Patronage of HSH Prince Albert II of Monaco". PR Newswire. 2019-06-25. Retrieved 2020-08-08.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  7. ^ Abdelmahmoud, Elamin (2011). "A prince of a man" (PDF). Queen's Alumni Gazette. Vol. 85, no. 3. p. 49. ISSN 0843-8048. Retrieved 2020-08-08.
  8. ^ Granovsky, Josh (2019-04-04). "Meet the Princess on University Avenue". The Queen's Journal. Retrieved 2020-08-08.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  9. ^ "Na'amat hosts fundraiser fit for a prince". Canadian Jewish News. 2013-10-18. Retrieved 2020-08-08.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  10. ^ Silverstein, Barbara (2014-12-08). "Crown prince whose grandfather saved Jews lives quietly in Oakville". Canadian Jewish News. Retrieved 2020-08-08.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  11. ^ Bürger, Tobias (2019-02-07). "Mein Team hat keine Kunden" [My Team has No Customers]. Private Banking Magazin (in German). Edelstoff Media. Retrieved 2020-08-08.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
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