Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chicks on the Right

I see no difference in the page for Chicks on the Right as I do for other similar genres.... like The Young Turks, etc.

Chicks on the Right

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This reads mostly like an ad and does not feel to be notable enough. Zero Serenity ^{(talk - contributions)} 18:58, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WARNING: This page is being outside attacked by Chicks on the Right. If you are coming here to protest, we suggest looking up the Wikipedia policies on notability and not be used as a Single Purpose Account. Link here: [1]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. Zero Serenity ^{(talk - contributions)} 18:58, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to WIBC (FM)#Local news and talk Pretty much a copy of their station's website bio (though with some clashes; this page's claiming they moved to spend time with their family, while the website says it's for their speaking agreements). Nate • (chatter) 21:16, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
They seem pretty popular and have some fairly well known Twitter followers. They also had a book published not too many years ago. I think the page should stay as it is and should not be combined with another page. Alaska4Me2 (talk) 01:35, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Neither subjective assessments of popularity nor who does or doesn't follow them on Twitter have anything to do with Wikipedia's notability criteria. When it comes to getting a Wikipedia article, the notability test is the degree to which they have or have not been the subject of third party coverage about them, in sources independent of themselves, to establish that their work has been externally deemed as significant. That is, it's not established by their own writing or speaking about themselves or other topics — it's established by other people analyzing the importance of their work in the third person. There's only one source here (#2, USA Today) that meets the necessary standard, and one source isn't enough. Bearcat (talk) 15:25, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The optics of any deletion would imply censorship. Is this what Wiki wants?Oz Cro (talk) 12:16, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:40, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. TJMSmith (talk) 13:42, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. TJMSmith (talk) 13:42, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Minnesota-related deletion discussions. TJMSmith (talk) 13:43, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, without prejudice against recreation of a redirect after the history is deleted first to prevent reversion warring. This is referenced almost entirely to content where they're the authors rather than the subjects — but as I explained above, that's not how you make people notable enough for Wikipedia: you make people notable enough for Wikipedia by showing that they've been the subject of reliable source coverage written by other people. This is, of course, without prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can actually reference them over WP:GNG properly — but Twitter tweets and YouTube clips and sources where they're doing the writing or speaking isn't how you get them over the bar. Bearcat (talk) 15:25, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Bearcat, do any of these help with notability? http://centergrovemonthly.com/chicks_on_the_right/ https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/emmis-digital/chicks-on-the-right https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/chicks-on-the-right/ https://www.cameo.com/chicksontheright http://radio-indiana.com/emmis/wibc/personalities/chicks-on-the-right/ -- A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 20:17, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No. They have to be the subject of journalism written by other people in real media outlets, not of social networking profiles or podcast content or "our programming" profiles on the self-published websites of their own radio affiliates or anything on a WordPress blog. Bearcat (talk) 18:09, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment And no...paying them to say whatever you want on Cameo doesn't clinch anything except you can pay them to say anything you want on Cameo. And if you're on talk radio...you get a podcast feed automatically these days. That doesn't say anything except 'their show is re-edited into a podcast'. As to the "optics" comment above; we regularly discuss talk radio hosts here and whether their notability allows them an article. There's no censoring going on; like most radio talk show hosts on local stations, there's only an inordinate amount of N you can get before it fades out unless you get a national show. Nate • (chatter) 00:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to WIBC (FM)#Local news and talk: The scope of the article focuses more of the two hosts rather than the show itself. Neither of the hosts are notable. The show isn't notable enough to have a standalone article. ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 12:18, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak ~~keep~~ delete per [2] (republished by USA Today but it's from an Indianapolis paper) and [3] (nontrivial coverage in WaPo). AleatoryPonderings (talk) 23:20, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It takes more than just two newspaper hits to get a topic over GNG. Bearcat (talk) 18:10, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Bearcat: You're right. Switched to weak delete per your note. Also found [4], but it's a namedrop. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 18:17, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 11:12, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I find it mildly amusing that you believe your site to be so important to the integrity of research that you would consider deleting this article. In case you are unaware - people use Wikipedia as a quickie overview - not a serious “notable” source. Students citing Wikipedia are cautioned against doing so as you are an open source site. Many people pop in to your site to quickly identify a name, term, etc. and this article gives the average person all they need to know to decide if/when they decide to conduct real research on the Chicks. This attempt at gravitas is laughable at best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lena464870 (talk • contribs) 13:08, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You take down people who are politically incorrect. That’s your “deletion policy”. Wow, you should be ashamed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.111.254 (talk) 11:46, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above two comments are from WP:SPA. Please read introductory guides on Wikipedia and its deletion policy. Zero Serenity ^{(talk - contributions)} 14:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is an attempt to censor conservatives, and nothing more. There are thousands of less "notable" entities here that are not marked for deletion. The fact that you found this one and are trying to delete it proves that it's notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1012:B06D:7DAD:6524:C831:AB3B:2F21 (talk) 15:22, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So what if that stuff exists? We'll get to those non-notable ones soon. Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and WP:N. And please don't cast aspersions on editors by calling this an attempt to "censor conservatives". Java Hurricane 15:34, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Just how is it that anyone who has had a radio show for over a decade, can be considered not notable by Wiki? If there are popularity guidelines, you should list them. This is pure political bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:CFC0:52:6C46:9B58:15F4:C7EE (talk • contribs)

WP:N and WP:GNG Zero Serenity ^{(talk - contributions)} 16:38, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]